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sarmhan posted:If the rumors about the final version using the 2X are true, this could be a really good device, as long as the price point isn't outrageous. If it's the 1X i'm not super optimistic about its future. we don't know what the docking station will have power wise so it might not matter in the home configuration. if the x1 is better on battery (dunno?) and cheaper it might be better to hold off and use the x2 for the new nx u in 2019.
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I believe the 2X is actually better on power. It does require active cooling though.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:03
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Generally the next chip in a line is better on power draw.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:04
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greatn posted:Generally the next chip in a line is better on power draw. oh cool katkillad2 posted:
the ps neo is probably going to be a mega sales hit
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Jul 27, 2016 03:04
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I would love the idea of a portable but not pocket portable gaming console. If it could get anywhere above Wii-U performance id be psyched. I loved the VITA and it wasnt anywhere near that performance wise, but having a more powerful machine on the go, with better visual fidelity is something im hugely in favor for. Im also hugely in favor of Nintendo canning the divide between their handheld game development and console game dev. As long as they dont do something absolutely insane like proprietary memory storage ( looking at you assholes at sony ) it would be awesome in my eyes. I just hope the thing has a decent sized screen. a good 7" screen at least, something tablet sized. The 2ds i have is an absolute eyesore in how small the screens are. And even the vitas nice oled screen is still freaking tiny compared to my 10" Acer tablet. The main concern of course is the price.. If they do all this, they will charge through the teeth for it. Its still 300 motherfucking dollars for a wii-u, and 200 dollars for the NEW 3ds. If Nintendo dropped a handheld console hybrid more powerful than their current offering they are gonna charge 5-600 dollars for it which is a loving deal breaker.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:10
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sarmhan posted:I believe the 2X is actually better on power. It does require active cooling though. You've got it twisted, the X2 doesn't need active, which is probably why they're waiting.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:12
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Talkc posted:
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Jul 27, 2016 03:15
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katkillad2 posted:As described, it sounds like this would be the death of the 2nd screen? As described, it sounds more like a handheld that can be hooked up and displayed on a TV which if that's what it takes to get Monster Hunter on a big screen again I'm ok with... but also sounds like less of a dedicated home console. I guess what I'm saying is it feels more like an evolution of the 3DS and the loss of the Wii/Wii U. Why would it be the Death of the Second Screen. It could potentially mimic a WiiU when hooked into a TV With the controllers being connected to a screen and rendering whatever is on the gamepad on the portable part while the game is on the TV. And then when it's in portable mode it's just treated like playing WiiU gamepad with one screen.
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Talkc posted:The main concern of course is the price.. If they do all this, they will charge through the teeth for it. Its still 300 motherfucking dollars for a wii-u, and 200 dollars for the NEW 3ds. If Nintendo dropped a handheld console hybrid more powerful than their current offering they are gonna charge 5-600 dollars for it which is a loving deal breaker. There's no way this thing will cost more than $350, if I had to pull a number out of my rear end I would say $300. Dexo posted:Why would it be the Death of the Second Screen. I thought about that, when it's hooked up to a TV the portable screen could be the second screen but it doesn't make much sense if being used primarily as portable. I guess less impossible/death and more clunky if games are going to be made with a second screen but you don't get the second screen without navigating menus when playing it off the big screen. katkillad2 fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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katkillad2 posted:There's no way this thing will cost more than $350, if I had to pull a number out of my rear end I would say $300. I hope its only 300. Thats preorder territory for me. And i feel a lot of people would be more confident in buying one if it were comparable or cheaper than current systems.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:24
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I've talked to a few people today about the rumor and they seemed to think it was a dumb choice. Maybe I'm just a Nintendo fan with no perspective, but it makes since for Nintendo to combine their divisions and focus on something more handheld-like when their handhelds have historically all been successes.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:26
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$300 with a Tegra 2 could be a real hit. You've got something that's nearly as powerful as a bone or PS4 in one convienient platform.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:27
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hopeandjoy posted:I've talked to a few people today about the rumor and they seemed to think it was a dumb choice. Anything other than a powerful spec fiesta was going to draw "RIP Nintendo" from the perpetual RIP Nintendo crowd.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:32
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katkillad2 posted:There's no way this thing will cost more than $350, if I had to pull a number out of my rear end I would say $300. Why not. It made just as little since for most Wii U games to be playable by themselves on the handheld tablet.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:33
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Dexo posted:Why not. It made just as little since for most Wii U games to be playable by themselves on the handheld tablet. From a Wii U perspective I think you are right, probably not a huge deal. From a 3DS perspective it's just not always going to work.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:39
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hopeandjoy posted:I've talked to a few people today about the rumor and they seemed to think it was a dumb choice. the more likely a person is to describe themselves as a "gamer" with no irony the more they think this decision is dumb
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Jul 27, 2016 03:42
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If the handheld unit is single-screen and isn't compatible with Pokemon Sun/Moon right out of the box they'll have made a bad move for launch At the 3DS launch my most played games on that thing were still DS Pokemon titles that had come out just before it
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Jul 27, 2016 03:42
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yeah i'm eager to see what their 1st party port situation looks as nx grows.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:49
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I bought a 3ds primarily for Link Between Worlds and a WiiU primarily for Splatoon. My only other gaming thing is my PC. I would love to not have to pay for two systems to play the Nintendo games I want.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:54
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Now if I'm not mistaken, 3ds is Tegra based, isn't it? Is backwards compatibility a possibility? (Two screens actually wouldn't even be a problem, if the screen is 720p which I can't imagine it being less, it could easily fit both 2ds screens on there.)
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Jul 27, 2016 03:58
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greatn posted:Now if I'm not mistaken, 3ds is Tegra based, isn't it? Is backwards compatibility a possibility? i don't think that happened. i think it might have been a rumor in like 2009 or 2010 based on google search but all the articles are like "3ds not using tegra afterall"
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Jul 27, 2016 04:02
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From what I've heard backwards compatibility isn't likely. Might have been ruled out explicitly already even. But yeah, as another PC+Nintendo person, Nintendo moving everything to one system is a move I think I'll like, at least if they do it well enough.
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Jul 27, 2016 04:02
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Roland Jones posted:From what I've heard backwards compatibility isn't likely. Might have been ruled out explicitly already even. With WiiU certainly. But I feel like 2ds wouldn't be as big an ask. If it's not, that's fine though.
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greatn posted:Now if I'm not mistaken, 3ds is Tegra based, isn't it? Is backwards compatibility a possibility? (Two screens actually wouldn't even be a problem, if the screen is 720p which I can't imagine it being less, it could easily fit both 2ds screens on there.) Nintendo and NVidia were going to put the Tegra 2 (the X1 is the 6th gen Tegra chip) in the 3DS, but Nintendo got cold feet at the last minute and didn't do it. So no, no Tegra in the 3DS. EDIT: I fully expect a 3DS VC...with drip-fed games.
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Jul 27, 2016 04:07
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I mean it's not going to have a disk drive. So non-eshop WiiU titles are out forever.
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greatn posted:Now if I'm not mistaken, 3ds is Tegra based, isn't it? Is backwards compatibility a possibility? (Two screens actually wouldn't even be a problem, if the screen is 720p which I can't imagine it being less, it could easily fit both 2ds screens on there.) 3DS is not Tegra-based. It uses overclocked DSi processors with a GPU bolted on.
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Jul 27, 2016 04:09
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sarmhan posted:I mean it's not going to have a disk drive. So non-eshop WiiU titles are out forever. they'll port the big hit games
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Real hurthling! posted:they'll port the big hit games
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Jul 27, 2016 04:15
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so long as the miiverse continues to be overwhelmed with glee and nonsense squid drawings, i will get an NX
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Heres what i want from their next hardware: HD Monster Hunter. Nintendo and Capcom jumped through god drat hoops to make sure as poo poo no one else gets monster hunter. The lack of Monster Hunter on pc outside of playing Chinese MMOS is infuriating. Both Toukiden Kiwami and God Eater 1+2 are gonna be on PC Soon. If Capcom+Nintendo are so god drat sure it wants to keep Monster Hunter to themselves, give us HD Generations on the NX. The 3ds graphics are a bleeding eye sore, and the gently caress would anyone buy a Wii-u for yet another Mon Hun Tri. You know whats also nice nintendo? Analog Sticks. Actual Sticks. Not nubs, not pads, STICKS. Even the vita's baby nubs were better than the slide pad. Plural. Sticks. I dont care if the thing has a touch screen or not. If it would keep the price low id prefer not. I want a fully featured control suite. Sticks that click. At least two menu buttons ( start select fill ins ), A home button for console menu. Two ANALOG TRIGGERS and TWO ANALOG STICKS. And some bumpers too. 4 face buttons. A dpad. Between Nintendo and Sony weve had years to get a fully featured suite of controls on a handheld and it STILL hasnt happened.
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Yeah, and maybe this system will come with a power cord. Keep dreamin' buddy. Seriously though clickable sticks are probably the worst controller "innovation" of the past two generations. Just add two more buttons to the face.
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Jul 27, 2016 04:51
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Maybe I'm not are ~hardcore gamer~ enough, but I don't get the point of analog triggers and clickable analog sticks. Also, I never had a problem with the circle pad, personally.
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Was just thinking the leaks specified detachable controllers and all reporting and speculation has been saying the handheld unit has detachable controllers, which would have a cool use case but frankly to me doesn't seem like it could possibly be ergonomic or practical. Wouldn't it make much more sense if the controllers detached from the base?
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Jul 27, 2016 04:56
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greatn posted:Was just thinking the leaks specified detachable controllers and all reporting and speculation has been saying the handheld unit has detachable controllers, which would have a cool use case but frankly to me doesn't seem like it could possibly be ergonomic or practical. Wouldn't it make much more sense if the controllers detached from the base? It's a portable system, there isn't a "base". Or rather, the handheld unit and the "base" are the same thing. Assuming I'm understanding correctly, at least. The controllers detach so that you can use them from a distance while it's plugged in to your screen.
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hopeandjoy posted:Maybe I'm not are ~hardcore gamer~ enough, but I don't get the point of analog triggers and clickable analog sticks. analog triggers give you the ability to have cars that drive slow or fast. clickable sticks give you two buttons that can be used quickly in twitch shooters without losing control of your movement or view. several other examples for each. they really should conform to standard controller schemes if they want the launch window ports to seem acceptable to buy on their console
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Roland Jones posted:It's a portable system, there isn't a "base". Or rather, the handheld unit and the "base" are the same thing. Assuming I'm understanding correctly, at least. The controllers detach so that you can use them from a distance while it's plugged in to your screen. Im under the impression there is a base, that is the charging station as well as being the part that has the hdmi connection to the tv, so when you go to your tv you don't have to plug it into anything, you just plop it on your base the same way you would the WiiU game pad onto its charging base.
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greatn posted:Im under the impression there is a base, that is the charging station as well as being the part that has the hdmi connection to the tv, so when you go to your tv you don't have to plug it into anything, you just plop it on your base the same way you would the WiiU game pad onto its charging base. Yeah, this is what I was under the impression was going on, and that the base might have additional hardware in it to handle upscaling for HD resolutions while the 'controller/handheld' thing runs at a lower resolution with it's own power. is this not how it works
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Jul 27, 2016 05:05
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All I want out of the NX are actual ergonomics and proper analog sticks.
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I'm the nintendo nx
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greatn posted:Im under the impression there is a base, that is the charging station as well as being the part that has the hdmi connection to the tv, so when you go to your tv you don't have to plug it into anything, you just plop it on your base the same way you would the WiiU game pad onto its charging base. Okay, that sort of base may exist, but, the controllers being part of that still wouldn't work for it as a handheld unit. You need the controllers to be part of what you carry around, because otherwise you have to set the screen part up somewhere and have the controller in your hands, which wouldn't really work for a handheld-type portable system. Like, if the controllers were entirely separate from the unit like you're describing, how would you play it the way you do a 3DS?
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