hemophilia posted:

That means 100% gently caress-all.

Ork of Fiction posted:

That's the same guy that you claim was offered the job of Being the Actual President of the United States in Secret, but turned it down because...?? he never actually wanted to be president or something something hitler?

You believe nonsense, my dude.

plain blue jacket posted:

Does Europe feel "entitled" to American military protection? I've only ever encountered negative opinions re: America keeping enough soldiers to flatten Europe in Europe

reallivedinosaur posted:

every canadian soldier i know is trained in virginia

hell we even repurposed our military barracks to serve as shantytowns for incoming refugees, who will love being behind barbed wire and armed guards i bet

Pawn 17 posted:

How so?

Spoondick posted:

strap your poo poo in because im doing this on the daily for 3 months straight because republican presidental nominee donald j trump is also for real

City of Tampa posted:

i'm just saying that there aren't really any programs to provide benefits to working class people, you can't get medicaid unless you are destitute and/or disabled, if you have kids you can get food stamps but they are pretty frugal with that as well and you have to jump through hoops constantly to get and keep those because the state makes it clear that it does not want to give them to you

the EITC is the only decent benefit that a working class person can get, and even then it's only a significant amount if you have kids and make like less than like $30k.

that's why it's pretty ridiculous to be like "oh if debt is too high then there's less money to spend on all those great benefits!" there's no loving benefits

Moridin920 posted:

I know of 2 individuals who are total strangers to each other who both said 'gently caress this, I'm working 2 jobs, can barely pay my bills, and I don't qualify for any aid because I have no kids. Well, I can have a kid if it means some help.'

For whatever reason there's a huge stigma against unemployment benefits, even though you loving PAY FOR THAT poo poo WHILE YOU ARE GETTING A PAYCHECK! Socialism though.

reallivedinosaur posted:

i know of no stigma against unemployment benefits must just be you

most people don't qualify because they get fired with cause, or quit

Moridin920 posted:

I dunno I've talked to a few people that lost their jobs for no fault of their own and were going 'man I'm stressed' and when I told them to get unemployment they kinda winced and went 'isn't that... idk bad though?' Granted they were in their 20s so ymmv.

And I'm in , I can only imagine what it's like in the shittier parts of the country.

City of Tampa posted:

i'm just saying that there aren't really any programs to provide benefits to working class people, you can't get medicaid unless you are destitute and/or disabled, if you have kids you can get food stamps but they are pretty frugal with that as well and you have to jump through hoops constantly to get and keep those because the state makes it clear that it does not want to give them to you

the EITC is the only decent benefit that a working class person can get, and even then it's only a significant amount if you have kids and make like less than like $30k.

that's why it's pretty ridiculous to be like "oh if debt is too high then there's less money to spend on all those great benefits!" there's no loving benefits

Pawn 17 posted:

I think of benefits as all public goods that are paid for with tax dollars. Education, law enforcement, fire, military, social security, infrastructure, health care, parks, prisons, research, waste management, community development, space exploration, etc, etc, etc. There are a huge amount of things we all benefit from that the government pays for, not just welfare. About 5% of government spending goes towards paying interest on debt. If we didn't have to pay that, then it could go towards all that other stuff we all benefit from.

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

People are just retarded with that poo poo, it's part of the same dumbass bootstraps mentality.

My brother got laid off and was unemployed in Cali for a few months but refused to file for unemployment because he "had enough savings to be ok" like saving that money for his future is a bad idea some poo poo.

I got laid off a few years back and while it only took me 2 months to get a new, better job you better believe I collected unemployment. It paid my rent so that I could keep my savings. No shame in that poo poo, your employer pays into the loving UI fund for a reason!

CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:

I'm not voting for either Trump or Clinton. They're both horrible candidates and hopefully America can pull it's collective head out of it's collective rear end and vote for Johnson or Stein or even that vampire guy who wants to impale criminals.

Stein is offering student loan forgiveness as her first action in office, and that's one hell of a carrot. I dunno.

Mukulu posted:

So why are people saying Trump is Hitler? He seems like he's not Hitler.

City of Tampa posted:

i'm just saying that there aren't really any programs to provide benefits to working class people, you can't get medicaid unless you are destitute and/or disabled, if you have kids you can get food stamps but they are pretty frugal with that as well and you have to jump through hoops constantly to get and keep those because the state makes it clear that it does not want to give them to you

the EITC is the only decent benefit that a working class person can get, and even then it's only a significant amount if you have kids and make like less than like $30k.

that's why it's pretty ridiculous to be like "oh if debt is too high then there's less money to spend on all those great benefits!" there's no loving benefits

Sentient Data posted:

Yeah, gently caress those people who demand more than bread and water! Saving for a new tv? What luxury will they want next, a refrigerator?

Nonsense posted:

ElGroucho posted:

I wonder what it's like to be so disagreeable that people contemplate voting for a narcissist, racist billionaire instead

dk2m posted:

anyone voting for trump is actually voting for pence, who is a shitbird of the highest caliber, like Ted Cruz levels. trump does not have the attention span to do anything but shitpost on Twitter and be a living meme. that alone is enough for me to vote for the corrupt politician instead

Sunset posted:

Who is the corrupt politician here, Hillary?

Are comments like this for real or am I just not understanding them. Did you just essentially say 'Well, Trump just wants the fame of being President, Pence will do the actual President stuff, so...think about it guys - that ought to be enough for you to vote for Hillary, even if it turns out she is corrupt..'

I mean...really? Really? Is this going to be the next phase of damage control before the next major leak or something because I swear I am in the loving twilight zone. Am I the the only one that feels they are losing their sanity on this forum.