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In regular continuity Superman used to, and may still, be able to fly through the sun for a temporary power boost.
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Travis343 posted:Usually he's just extremely strong and more invulnerable the older he gets. But in all star he was too close to the sun and his cells couldn't take it, and he got sun poisoning. So I think it depends on how much exposure in a short time vs. his entire life. In DC One Million, didn't he live inside the sun?
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Jul 27, 2016 15:14
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prefect posted:In DC One Million, didn't he live inside the sun? Yeah, after flying into it at the end of All Star, despite all star not being written until years later. All of Morrison's superman stories are connected.
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Jul 27, 2016 15:17
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I thought the part where he's in Bizarro world away from the yellow sun and in direct contact with a red one was their way out of him dying, in that his cells were burning off all the excess yellow radiation just trying to keep him super. Glad they stuck to their guns.
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Jul 27, 2016 17:36
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I am so annoyed by people saying "Oh look at Harley Quinn she is super cool and sexy and dark now!" Since when are strippers dark and mysterious? People who have never read a book with HQ in it are saying how she is much cooler now and it's seriously the most frustrating thing. And it's not even guys that i'm mostly hearing, It's women! Why they want a hooker running around calling herself Harley Quinn I'll never know. Kind of a ragey post but goddamnit I used to really like the character and she is so bad now. At this rate within years she will fight crime entirely naked save for a pasty on each tit.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:40
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Seems like you're really hung up on appearances. "Cool" and "dark" have nothing to do with what someone's wearing. She's not a real person so she isn't choosing her outfit for herself obviously, but it seems like they're talking about characterization while you're stuck on look. If it helps, she was bad before, but just in a way that appealed to you. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Jul 27, 2016 20:47
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I would totally forgive that Harley design if halfway through the movie she looks down and sees her feet are beaten to hell from those ridiculous heels.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:48
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Aphrodite posted:Seems like you're really hung up on appearances. "Cool" and "dark" have nothing to do with what someone's wearing. She's not a real person so she isn't choosing her outfit for herself obviously, but it seems like they're talking about characterization while you're stuck on look. I'm not the most eloquent person but she was specifically talking about her costume. Saying that's what made her darker and cooler.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:57
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Well that's just crazy then. The only clothes that makes you dark and mysterious is a black mask.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:04
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Hot pants are the most mysterious of pants.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:07
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Well now I just want a Project Harley so all the dark and mysterious superheroes like Batman, Moon Knight, The Shadow, and Phantom Stranger get hot pants and a belly shirt to really accentuate that quality.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:32
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Love Harley's movie look to death, but I don't get how that gets across any concepts like that. Even her personality isn't really dark or mysterious, or at least not dramatically more so than before.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:35
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I'm primarily confused by them not having Harley in red and black. Seems like step one. Literally iconic. But generic baseball girl? I don't even know.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:36
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WickedHate posted:Love Harley's movie look to death 
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Jul 27, 2016 21:38
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SirDan3k posted:Hot pants are the most mysterious of pants. I know, right? They are clearly shorts.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:39
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Harley's Suicide Squad look is so much better than the Arkham games/Injustice costumes that have been the norm for her in recent years.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:44
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Personally I didn't see antthing wrong with the old look but even if it had to be changed why change it into THAT? ANd as was just posted the theme isn't even Red/Black anymore. It's like they just made a new character and called it Harley
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Jul 27, 2016 21:48
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TokenTrevor posted:Personally I didn't see antthing wrong with the old look but even if it had to be changed why change it into THAT? ANd as was just posted the theme isn't even Red/Black anymore. It's like they just made a new character and called it Harley TBF that seems to be the case for most of the characters.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:50
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This goes back to my theory, that Zack Snyder sucks real bad.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:53
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She started using red/blue in her original N52 look. Her movie look was probably developed out of that.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:54
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Endless Mike posted:TBF that seems to be the case for most of the characters. The thing is, you're not even wrong. just THIS one seems to bother me the most because it's the only one I'm seeing people I know personally say it makes her cooler or more unique. Like I don't expect a 1:1 comic to movie costume but hell keep the THEME at least.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:58
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The theme of the movie is "real bad" so I think they're on track really.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:01
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WickedHate posted:She started using red/blue in her original N52 look. Her movie look was probably developed out of that. Pfft, facts.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:39
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TokenTrevor posted:The thing is, you're not even wrong. just THIS one seems to bother me the most because it's the only one I'm seeing people I know personally say it makes her cooler or more unique. Like I don't expect a 1:1 comic to movie costume but hell keep the THEME at least. Her theme is "joker groupie" and the movie one fits it well, especially with the Joker being a trash cokefiend in it.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:55
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Yeah the Joker costume looks incredibly bad too so it fits.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:27
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Flesh Forge posted:Yeah the Joker costume looks incredibly bad too so it fits. DAMAGED
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Jul 28, 2016 02:46
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rotinaj posted:DAMAGED That's honestly what bugs me the most about the Suicide Squad designs. Everyone has descriptive text all over them, it's like they had a casting call inside a political cartoon.
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Jul 28, 2016 03:03
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You're all going to look silly when the villain is revealed as the Tattooist Man.
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Jul 28, 2016 04:30
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SirDan3k posted:Hot pants are the most mysterious of pants. For indeed, we ask ourselves the age old question, who likes short shorts?
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Jul 28, 2016 07:09
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We, in point of fact, like short shorts
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Jul 28, 2016 07:19
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VagueRant posted:I'm primarily confused by them not having Harley in red and black. Seems like step one. Literally iconic.  
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Jul 28, 2016 14:17
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But but but...It even looks decent! They made the costume and then specifically didn't use it? 
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Jul 28, 2016 15:41
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Man, that really twigs my jimmies. That... That really grills my salmon. I'm having difficulty even assembling an aphorism for this one. That really... stomps my high-tops? I'm displeased, basically.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:01
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I'll be the one to say that the classic Harley costume does not look good on real human beings. Some costumes need to stay two dimensional.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:04
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TokenTrevor posted:But but but...It even looks decent! They made the costume and then specifically didn't use it? You aren't seeing it on a person and in motion. It probably looks like butts that way. Also, it wouldn't fit at all with the aesthetic of the movie or the group. And this is coming from someone who grew up on B:TAS.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:05
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Die Laughing posted:I'll be the one to say that the classic Harley costume does not look good on real human beings. Some costumes need to stay two dimensional. Have we ever seen it on a real human being outside cosplay? I don't see anything particularly wrong with the one posted above other than the idea of doing acrobatics in high heels. Toshimo posted:You aren't seeing it on a person and in motion. It probably looks like butts that way. Also, it wouldn't fit at all with the aesthetic of the movie or the group. But how would we even know if it looks goofy or not without ever getting to see it? I agree with your second point in that the movie's aesthetic is garbage tho.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:08
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TokenTrevor posted:Have we ever seen it on a real human being outside cosplay? I don't see anything particularly wrong with the one posted above other than the idea of doing acrobatics in high heels. The only person lamé ever looked good on is Elvis and even that's up for debate.
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Jul 28, 2016 17:05
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Die Laughing posted:I'll be the one to say that the classic Harley costume does not look good on real human beings. Some costumes need to stay two dimensional. Yeah, it looked fine in the cartoon series but it would have been really awkward with the visual style they've already been using. Also it would look ridiculous and not in a good way.
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Jul 28, 2016 17:50
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I hate harley in general and think she's a terrible and at best pitiable character. I don't like Suicide Squad at all, but I GUESS one thing I can give it that most interpretations do not do is Harley and Joker in that movie are dressed just as shittily as each other - instead of Joker getting a suit while Harley has an outlandish goth costume or skintight number they're both in rags and tattoos and both look just as hot topic.
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Die Laughing posted:I'll be the one to say that the classic Harley costume does not look good on real human beings. Some costumes need to stay two dimensional. You've got a point.  I also hate when movies do that-- change up classic looks then hide/reference them in the background. "What would you prefer, yellow spandex?" and all that. Like at least with Captain America they gave an in-universe explanation where his classic-looking WWII costume was deliberately terrible before putting him in a better overall look. The fact that Joss Whedon decided to undo that and put him back in ridiculous pajamas for the Avengers is a fact I'm choosing to ignore.
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