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/\/\/\ As a white person, yes it was! I have to pay mexicans to pick my cotton now! (fyi, THIS is sarcasm)Twerkteam Pizza posted:I know you're being sarcastic but gently caress off I think you are missing the point here. This isn't sarcasm. He is pointing out how stupid it is to compare 'black' to 'fat'. Replace 'black' with 'fat', and the statement becomes good and true.
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Jul 27, 2016 18:26
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RFC2324 posted:I think you are missing the point here. This isn't sarcasm. He is pointing out how stupid it is to compare 'black' to 'fat'. Even though I made the initial joke, and while the two aren't really comparable, recent research does suggest that people are kinda hosed if they were unfortunate enough to be raised fat as a child. For example, a fat person who wants to decrease their weight to, say, 160lb, would have to eat less to maintain that weight than someone who was 160lb from the beginning. Our bodies inherently strongly resist long-term weight loss. It's still obviously possible, but people who have been fat throughout their upbringing are facing a huge uphill battle. Makes me really grateful for having parents who gave me a healthy upbringing.
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Jul 27, 2016 18:32
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Ytlaya posted:Even though I made the initial joke, and while the two aren't really comparable, recent research does suggest that people are kinda hosed if they were unfortunate enough to be raised fat as a child. For example, a fat person who wants to decrease their weight to, say, 160lb, would have to eat less to maintain that weight than someone who was 160lb from the beginning. Our bodies inherently strongly resist long-term weight loss. It's still obviously possible, but people who have been fat throughout their upbringing are facing a huge uphill battle. Makes me really grateful for having parents who gave me a healthy upbringing. Genetics and other health issues can play into it. But the fact is that, barring a few serious health issues(which you should get taken care of) you can work hard and lose the weight, and get to a much better place. Yes, it does take work, and it takes some people WAY more work than others, but it doesn't change the simple fact that it can be fixed. I was gonna say that fat is the only one of the two that will kill you, but I guess being black is a potentially fatal health condition too >.<
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Jul 27, 2016 18:35
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RFC2324 posted:Genetics and other health issues can play into it. But the fact is that, barring a few serious health issues(which you should get taken care of) you can work hard and lose the weight, and get to a much better place. Yes, it does take work, and it takes some people WAY more work than others, but it doesn't change the simple fact that it can be fixed. The point is that research shows that even AFTER a fat guy loses weight and becomes normal, they have to then eat less than other normal people to even maintain that weight. They are kind of hosed forever and can never eat the regular amount again.
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Jul 27, 2016 18:43
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Mu Zeta posted:The point is that research shows that even AFTER a fat guy loses weight and becomes normal, they have to then eat less than other normal people to even maintain that weight. They are kind of hosed forever and can never eat the regular amount again. You are completely ignoring the fact that your metabolism slows down as you age, so us older folk can't eat as much anyway unless we want to get fat! And that is a choice you make for yourself. Just know that if you opt for the fat route, people are going to find you less attractive. Hell, I'm barely overweight and I get all kinds of comments, so I do have a small idea of how brutal it must be to be really big. Again, it is a choice that the individual in question makes for themselves. Work hard to be attractive to other people, or enjoy life and be fat. They both have arguments in their favor, but again, the fat will kill ya, so its a shorter life of enjoying what you want.
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Jul 27, 2016 18:51
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Why are you doing this.
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Jul 27, 2016 18:57
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RFC2324 posted:You are completely ignoring the fact that your metabolism slows down as you age, so us older folk can't eat as much anyway unless we want to get fat! Nice meltdown
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Jul 27, 2016 18:58
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Chomp8645 posted:Why are you doing this. He's getting pretty defensive about hating fat people by explaining that eating is a choice and ignoring that it is a form of sustenance, stress relief, and pleasure. Especially for people who have little sources of that in their lives
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Jul 27, 2016 19:00
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some idiot on a forum I browse posted:You are completely ignoring the fact that your metabolism slows down as you age, so us older folk can't eat as much anyway unless we want to get fat! The quotes are coming from inside the thread now
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Jul 27, 2016 19:01
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Chomp8645 posted:Why are you doing this. Because I'm bored, and its too early to go to the bar.
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Jul 27, 2016 19:02
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RFC2324 posted:/\/\/\ As a white person, yes it was! I have to pay mexicans to pick my cotton now! (fyi, THIS is sarcasm) Well I was also pointing out the whole "clearly being black is not a normal thing, sorry for your handicap" vibe. I probably shouldn't try to make two jokes at once.
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Jul 27, 2016 19:03
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Data Graham posted:Well I was also pointing out the whole "clearly being black is not a normal thing, sorry for your handicap" vibe. You got a guy to meltdown, so it's alright friend
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Jul 27, 2016 19:05
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The producers of The Biggest Loser are scumbags.
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Jul 27, 2016 19:07
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Mu Zeta posted:The producers of The Biggest Loser are scumbags. You're surprised by this how?
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Jul 27, 2016 19:08
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Mu Zeta posted:The producers of The Biggest Loser are scumbags. I was wondering if there was a new news story about them, but all I could find was something from May. The article, ‘Biggest Loser’ Producers Deny Forcing Contestants to Use Weight-Loss Drugs has this amazing quote in it: quote:“People chastise Bill Cosby for allegedly offering meds to women, but it’s acceptable to do to fat people to make them lose weight,” Gwynn said. “I feel like we got raped, too” Yes, someone telling you to take diet pills is exactly like being drugged and raped. 
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Jul 27, 2016 20:00
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Karma Monkey posted:I was wondering if there was a new news story about them, but all I could find was something from May. The article, ‘Biggest Loser’ Producers Deny Forcing Contestants to Use Weight-Loss Drugs has this amazing quote in it: I'm not gonna say it's comparable to being raped, but being given drugs without your knowledge and consent or being pressured into taking them is extremely unethical.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:11
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Who What Now posted:I'm not gonna say it's comparable to being raped, but being given drugs without your knowledge and consent or being pressured into taking them is extremely unethical. No you see it's okay because they're fat and they compared their trauma to other victims so
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Jul 27, 2016 20:23
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Who What Now posted:I'm not gonna say it's comparable to being raped, but being given drugs without your knowledge and consent or being pressured into taking them is extremely unethical. Agreed, but being pressured to take diet pills is in no way as bad as being given a drug without your knowledge that causes you to black out.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:23
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So many new thread titles to choose from.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:25
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Karma Monkey posted:Agreed, but being pressured to take diet pills is in no way as bad as being given a drug without your knowledge that causes you to black out. Dude usually any trauma is pretty taxing on one's mind and distortion is going to happen. Be mad at the producers
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Jul 27, 2016 20:26
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Can we just pick one? The current one and the post that spawned it are just...ick.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:26
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Who What Now posted:I'm not gonna say it's comparable to being raped, but being given drugs without your knowledge and consent or being pressured into taking them is extremely unethical. Look, do you want to be on TV or not? Shut up and eat the goddamn amphetamine cocktail. If you're all anxious and shaky you're just nervous and definitely not suffering from hypoglycemia or a hypertensive crisis
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Jul 27, 2016 20:27
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Who What Now posted:I'm not gonna say it's comparable to being raped, but being given drugs without your knowledge and consent or being pressured into taking them is extremely unethical. I have a friend who was actually on The Biggest Loser, and they've insisted they were never pressured to take, nor even offered, weight loss drugs or drugs of any kind. They were on in a different season than the lady making the accusations though, so who knows if it's always been that way or what. Rat Patrol has a new favorite as of 20:31 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Jul 27, 2016 20:28
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Huntersoninski posted:I have a friend who was actually on The Biggest Loser, and they've insisted they were never pressured to take, nor even offered, weight loss drugs. They were on in a different season than the lady making the accusations though, so who knows if it's always been that way or what. I mean it also could depend on each contestants popularity. The most popular contestant is going to be more pressured than others because views
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Jul 27, 2016 20:33
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Huntersoninski posted:I have a friend who was actually on The Biggest Loser, and they've insisted they were never pressured to take, nor even offered, weight loss drugs or drugs of any kind. They were on in a different season than the lady making the accusations though, so who knows if it's always been that way or what. Did they confirm that the regimen they were put on was unreasonably grueling and a lot of the contestants gained weight as soon as they returned to real life? Because that does happen.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:59
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Mu Zeta posted:The producers of The Biggest Loser are scumbags. This but all of reality TV.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:01
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:I mean it also could depend on each contestants popularity. That could be, but my friend did make it pretty far along and didn't see any drugs getting pushed around. Obviously I'm depending on their word but I trust them, I've known them a long time. chitoryu12 posted:Did they confirm that the regimen they were put on was unreasonably grueling and a lot of the contestants gained weight as soon as they returned to real life? Because that does happen. Yeah, actually, they've spoken on that quite a bit, but it was never a big surprise to them. Their diets on the show are strictly controlled and their full time job is basically working out. I have no idea what the metric is for "unreasonably" grueling but the account I heard was that it was very hard but also well-monitored with health care staff on hand. When they return home, they go back to their actual full time jobs and slip easily back into old bad habits. My friend's stayed really motivated and still works out a lot and will be the first to admit even they've gained some back. I'm sure they work them really hard but, according to my friend when they were there, it wasn't as bad as other contestants from other seasons are saying. But they're also not the kind of person to fall into pressure to do something unhealthy or harmful and were only on the show to get motivated in the first place.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:23
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Kajeesus posted:MOBA games take about 45 minutes per match, and punish you if you quit playing before the end of the round. Your average video game enthusiast can stand approximately 10 consecutive seconds of losing at a game before losing their poo poo. Additionally, they require you to play in teams, and unless you have 4 friends to play with, you will have to cooperate with internet strangers. Even if you're chill enough to not throw a fit and blame everyone but you every time you lose, it just takes one in five players being a pissbaby to set the community standard. Also people who play video games are pretty much inherently lovely and mobas tend to make it so you can't play as duplicate characters. So if one manbaby's favorite character is already picked? Well he's just going to throw the whole game. Which then wastes an hour of everyone's time  .Ytlaya posted:Even though I made the initial joke, and while the two aren't really comparable, recent research does suggest that people are kinda hosed if they were unfortunate enough to be raised fat as a child. For example, a fat person who wants to decrease their weight to, say, 160lb, would have to eat less to maintain that weight than someone who was 160lb from the beginning. Our bodies inherently strongly resist long-term weight loss. It's still obviously possible, but people who have been fat throughout their upbringing are facing a huge uphill battle. Makes me really grateful for having parents who gave me a healthy upbringing. I was raised pretty shittily  we were poor as gently caress so we could never afford good food, let alone fresh vegetables or fruit. I was fat as a kid and when I decided to start getting healthier it was pretty disheartening. Aside from people making fun of me more than ever for trying to get into shape, running two miles a day and changing my diet for the first week amounted to a single pound burned off which was put right back on that weekend. So that's my relevant anecdote about trying to not be a fat anymore.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:56
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chitoryu12 posted:Did they confirm that the regimen they were put on was unreasonably grueling and a lot of the contestants gained weight as soon as they returned to real life? Because that does happen. Turns out you can't excercise all day when you have a full time job, who knew.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:57
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Also crash diets only work temporarily
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Jul 27, 2016 22:03
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RFC2324 posted:Genetics and other health issues can play into it. But the fact is that, barring a few serious health issues(which you should get taken care of) you can work hard and lose the weight, and get to a much better place. Yes, it does take work, and it takes some people WAY more work than others, but it doesn't change the simple fact that it can be fixed. Same but with income. Poor people are to blame for their condition.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:04
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RatHat posted:Turns out you can't excercise all day when you have a full time job, who knew. You can't watch you eat either, apparently.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:20
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Nuebot posted:Also people who play video games are pretty much inherently lovely and mobas tend to make it so you can't play as duplicate characters. So if one manbaby's favorite character is already picked? Well he's just going to throw the whole game. Which then wastes an hour of everyone's time Trying to lose weight with cardio is incredibly frustrating. Running two miles is the caloric equivalent of like a donut, if that. Hit them weights and track your fat/carb/protein intake. And gently caress people who make fun of other people who are trying to make positive changes.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:21
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BobbyK posted:Trying to lose weight with cardio is incredibly frustrating. Running two miles is the caloric equivalent of like a donut, if that. Hit them weights and track your fat/carb/protein intake. And gently caress people who make fun of other people who are trying to make positive changes. This *100. Best thing I've ever read is if your friend is 300 lbs and decides that a line-dancing aerobics class is fun and starts going regularly, then the correct response is to congratulate your friend on finding something enjoyable.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:24
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CommonShore posted:This *100. Best thing I've ever read is if your friend is 300 lbs and decides that a line-dancing aerobics class is fun and starts going regularly, then the correct response is to congratulate your friend on finding something enjoyable. Hell yeah. Anyone I know in real life who is into fitness would agree with this 200%
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Jul 27, 2016 22:44
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We often hear that fat people are somehow “costing” society too much. Leaving aside the fabricated numbers that often go with such claims, I would ask you this- Do these people ever talk about the costs of misogyny or racism? How much does it cost society that 3 women a day (in the US) are murdered by their male romantic partners? How much does it cost for the trials, the prison, the loss and grief surrounding the never ending violence against women? Are these penny pinchers really concerned about costs? Or are they just looking for a way to stigmatize fat people and bring the full weight of government sanction and interference into our lives to punish us for what we look like? I think you know what the answer is.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:44
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I worked out 5 times a week for 3 years, and cleaned up my diet to include fresh, real food with as little refined sugar as I could manage. I lost 100 lbs over those three years but didn't look much different to people who didn't know me, so the world at large still took me for a fatty and treated me accordingly. Then I discovered that the only way to keep the weight off was to continue not having anything resembling a social life and to continue running myself further into credit debt with gym fees for the rest of my life, and all that just so I could continue being treated like a fat person by the majority of people in the world. I eventually decided gently caress that, I will do things that I enjoy with my life, and if it ends sooner as a result, so be it. I still wear the exact same size pants. That's my story about weight loss.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:31
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My diet is pretty poo poo but I've never been fat. I do cook my own meals so I guess maybe that helps some I guess?
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