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sarmhan posted:Why does that invalidate her? She spent her entire adult life in France, as the Queen, and queen mother/regent. While she didn't directly rule for very long, she was the main power behind the throne for decades, had a huge influence on French policy, and did a lot of patronage and building projects. Alright, my bad
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Not to mention that shitloads of monarchs reigned over places they weren't born in.
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Gort posted:Not to mention that shitloads of monarchs reigned over places they weren't born in. For example, Napoleon Bonaparte barely qualifies as being born in France - he was Corsican and famously had lovely, horrendously accented French.
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Jul 26, 2016 19:32
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If you wanna get really technical, George Washington was born a british citizen and not a proper american. Obviously a terrible fit as the leader of the US back in V. 
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I'd place it up with them having William I as the English leader based around a strong military midgame. It works, but it's kind of weird.
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Jul 26, 2016 19:46
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I'm down with Firaxis looking outside the established box for leaders. Queen Christina for Sweden, please.
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Why is Theo so loving fat?
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Kajeesus posted:Who? Teddy, I assume.
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Grapplejack posted:I'd place it up with them having William I as the English leader based around a strong military midgame. It works, but it's kind of weird. Actually thinking on this more if you make his UA where castles act as courthouses that can rarely spawn knights he'd be really fun to play.
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As I suspected, the "Henry VIII leader portrait leak" was a total fake. It was a mockup done by a modder that someone ran with. I really, really doubt we're getting multiple leaders per civ any time soon.
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Next time they really need to get a blurrier photo.
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Grapplejack posted:Actually thinking on this more if you make his UA where castles act as courthouses that can rarely spawn knights he'd be really fun to play. One of my favourite facts about William I is that in order to make his military pacification of England more efficient, he had the wooden keeps common to the motte and bailey castle design used by the normans pre-built in normandy and then shipped over to England for construction on-site. William I pioneered the flat-pack castle. That's how you can tell the Normans were still scandinavians at heart.
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Xelkelvos posted:They do also have AI fixes which can make them a bit more threatening/annoying since you can't leverage their lovely policy picks against them for example and their resource management is a little better. But the important part here is, does this revamped AI also fight better? plan better?
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Teron D Amun posted:But the important part here is, does this revamped AI also fight better? plan better? Here's a list of AI changes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LpMswoeLDnAi6Zaqemyhjr2g1xaBPMTc6sXmKU8ERlg/edit#heading=h.nglix3b6xfm In my limited experience thus far, the AI does seem to be a little better.
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GrandpaPants posted:Was that Mont St. Michel being way inland? The pyramids have to be on desert but they couldn't make Mont St. Michel be like, at least on the coast? It has to be built on a marsh or a floodplain.
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oh my lord, i don't know if i should even copy paste that one... Have a link to this bad boy http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=14373575&postcount=328 TLDR; instead of de Medici, an Italian wife who struggled to keep France together and contributing to tis prolems, the leader of France ought to be Cardinal Richelieu, a self-made man who structurally modernised France and then made it into Europe’s most powerful country. Switching leaders would be historically accurate, would make sense, would fit into France’s gameplay, would be easily done by Firaxis and would also increase the meme potential.
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Kurtofan posted:oh my lord, i don't know if i should even copy paste that one... If anything it should be Louis XIV, just because it would be hilarious to declare war on France only to see this motherfucker pop up on your screen:  No hat, but the best hair. 
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He's even already been a leader before, hasn't he? EDIT: Yes. Civ 4. http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Louis_XIV_(Civ4) I can appreciate wanting them to do him again, perhaps. Bloodly fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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This was my favorite bit from that whole thing: quote:Gender equality: although I personally support the notion that there should be a rough balance between both genders in Civilization’s leaders because there have been many great female leaders throughout history; don’t you think that France – one of history’s great civilizations – should be exempt from this rule?
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Jul 28, 2016 13:52
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Why are fun games always ruined by their fanbases?
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Xarn posted:Why are fun games always ruined by their fanbases? People who take things too seriously are problematic.
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Xarn posted:Why are fun games always ruined by their fanbases? The people we notice in the fanbases are inevitably the lowest common denominator of the fans of the game. Things that are fun have big fanbases. Thus, there are a lot more terrible people.
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Senerio posted:This was my favorite bit from that whole thing: "I'm not racist, but..."
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"I've got nothing against women but gently caress them all they don't want to have sex with me".
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Cythereal posted:For example, Napoleon Bonaparte barely qualifies as being born in France - he was Corsican and famously had lovely, horrendously accented French. Catherine the Great was born in Prussia, modern day Poland, the daughter of German nobles, and didn't move to Russia until she was married.
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I am little exasperated that they went with Cleopatra flirting with the camera instead of Hatshepsut being badass and cool.
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Xarn posted:Why are fun games always ruined by their fanbases? Fans ruin every loving thing. It's not limited to games.
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I must be crazy, but people who like the same thing as me saying stupid poo poo don't affect me or my enjoyment of that thing in the slightest.
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Kurtofan posted:oh my lord, i don't know if i should even copy paste that one...
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Yeah but he's a guy
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Something I kind of hope for is for the 'world congress' type things in this game to be a bit more fleshed out and interesting. I hardly expect Paradox-ey diplomacy but there are some basic improvements I think would be cool. For starters, a single 'world congress' around the Renaissance isn't a good way to do it. A better idea would be for diplomatic organization to come about as an extension of alliances and only have a few members at a time. I think early-game it should be heavily tied into religion - not necessarily a requirement, but converting another civ to a religion would be the biggest, easiest, and most reliable way to form early-game congresses. Of course there should be important reasons for you to form such a congress - things like the ability to decree that everyone declare war on another civ, more organized defensive pacts, potentially controlling trade, and so forth. And CS allies shouldn't just provide delegates but instead be members of those congresses who can join of their own volition, though allying them up can rope them into it faster. You'd see a lot more friction of religions early-on and holy wars would be much more common, and in general it'd make the politics of religion a little more intriguing early-on. Then of course late-game it should be ideology-based for much the same purposes. I dunno, just, the WC is a really weak part of Civ V and it bothered me especially that there was no opting out of it should their demands be considered unreasonable...and the idea of a World Congress existing in the late middle ages that everyone listens to unilaterally is kinda silly. If anything the creation of a World Congress should be the major goal of a civ trying to win a Diplomatic victory.
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They've said the WC is one of the few features from Civ 5 they didn't bring across but I can easily see a revamped version appearing in an expansion. Whenever I experience a WC-type system in these games it always compares unfavorably to my memories of the council in Alpha Centauri, where you could do incredibly impactful things like raise or lower the sea level (with corresponding geographical effects due to the terrain system in that game). I'm sure it's mostly rose-colored glasses, especially since half the fun in AC was playing as the Peacekeepers and ramming your proposals through even if the whole world was against you, but I remember being especially disappointed with the system in Civ 4. The World Congress in BNW has a lot of great proposal options but the system itself kind of breaks down when you realize the only reliable way to get what you want is to spend thousands of gold buying out the city-states for their votes. There's currently a major press event for Civ 6 taking place and I believe the NDA expires next Thursday (Friday for me) if my casual browsing of the CF forums is any indication. I'm expecting a full reveal of the diplomacy system and probably the religion system as well, though maybe they'll leave something for Gamescom in a few weeks.
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Kalko posted:I'm sure it's mostly rose-colored glasses, especially since half the fun in AC was playing as the Peacekeepers and ramming your proposals through even if the whole world was against you, but I remember being especially disappointed with the system in Civ 4. The World Congress in BNW has a lot of great proposal options but the system itself kind of breaks down when you realize the only reliable way to get what you want is to spend thousands of gold buying out the city-states for their votes. I actually enjoyed the fact that it was (relatively) difficult to ram through whatever you wanted and that getting proposals passed was actually a matter of proposing things that other civs would like. It's like, hey, actual fuckin diplomacy for once. But like a lot of things in V it broke down with the AI, because while the AI could reliably be expected to vote in its own self interest (a rare high water mark for Civ V's AI) when the AI was in the driver's seat they would pretty much just pick proposals at random without caring what anyone else thought about them, which defeats the whole purpose. France: In honor of our great ally India, we hereby motion that all civilized nations cooperate in shutting down the salt trade that India controls and relies on. All in favor? India: Nay. France: HOW DARE YOU VOTE DOWN OUR PROPOSAL, I THOUGHT WE WERE ALLIES
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Fister Roboto posted:I must be crazy, but people who like the same thing as me saying stupid poo poo don't affect me or my enjoyment of that thing in the slightest. Eh, it depends on the game, and poo poo like this won't stop me from buying Civ6 once the DLCs are out, but when going to popular forums about game you enjoy means reading that sort of poo poo, it definitely makes the game less enjoyable.
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I'm sorry that you feel that way, it must be very hard for you to enjoy anything.
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Xarn posted:Eh, it depends on the game, and poo poo like this won't stop me from buying Civ6 once the DLCs are out, but when going to popular forums about game you enjoy means reading that sort of poo poo, it definitely makes the game less enjoyable. I feel exactly the same way and also I'm a convicted felon, have strong opinions about women in video games and vape. Cheers!
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 More than possible it's that 150 turn-limited demo, but hey maybe something new will come out of it.
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new civ pleasssss
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I'm worried because Sean Bean's IMDb credits don't include Civ VI 
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