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Alright. One more shot at this. I just bought a couple monitors (34" and 24"). I would like to mount the 24 above the 34. What is a good reasonably priced desk mount for doing so?
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xthetenth posted:I don't think there are any quite as good as the best IPS. I think a good VA vs a decent IPS is reasonably close, just see if you can get a number for input lag. Less good ones are dominated by the scaler so they're all equally out of the running for twitch. I'm going to jump into this discussion with a reminder about something: AU Optronics, who make panels for a number of different display manufacturers, calls their IPS implementation AHVA, but it has no relation to a VA panel, and is just branding to avoid using the IPS trademark. Same deal as Samsung's PLS, but with a much more confusing acronym. This is especially important because AU Optronics and LG are the only panel makers in the >60Hz IPS space right now and it can get confusing.
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Finally got my refund for the XB271hu and I noticed there are a few open box listings on Newegg. What are your experiences with open box purchases for monitors? I'm kind of leery now after I had to return my first one.
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exquisite tea posted:Finally got my refund for the XB271hu and I noticed there are a few open box listings on Newegg. What are your experiences with open box purchases for monitors? I'm kind of leery now after I had to return my first one. BipolarAurora fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Jul 27, 2016 01:12
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Newegg, but as far as I could tell it wasn't their fault. Monitor just died overnight and never came back on.
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OK, so after doing some research I've decided to get a 27" 2560x1440 monitor. I only play the occasional game so I don't need anything specialised for gaming - I've been using a Dell 2405FPW and have no complaints just to give you an idea of my expectations. Any recommendations on models/brands I should look at?
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Jul 27, 2016 18:19
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I'm kind of annoyed that there is not a single monitor on the market that is IPS and 144hz and 1080p and G-Sync. There are TN monitors at that resolution, and really pricey 1440p ones that are IPS, but having experienced either extreme for myself I'd really rather have 1080p with a mega high refresh rate than the reverse.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:48
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exquisite tea posted:I'm kind of annoyed that there is not a single monitor on the market that is IPS and 144hz and 1080p and G-Sync. There are TN monitors at that resolution, and really pricey 1440p ones that are IPS, but having experienced either extreme for myself I'd really rather have 1080p with a mega high refresh rate than the reverse. I'm pretty sure there is an acer predator with those specifications.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:12
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If it's the XB241h then that's a TN panel, although it's so much fairer priced than some of the premium options that it seems pretty attractive. Seems to be out of stock everywhere though.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:25
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Stumpus posted:I'm pretty sure there is an acer predator with those specifications. If youre talking about the z35 ultrawide. That monitor costs quite a bit and that 1080 resolution is stretched quite a bit on a screen that big. I think hes talking more a long the lines of 24-27" 144hz 1080 g sync ips monitor Green Gloves fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Jul 27, 2016 23:26
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Acer has a curved Z271 that's 27 inches, 1080p 144Hz GSync that's a VA panel, but not IPS.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:32
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Acer has a curved Z271 that's 27 inches, 1080p 144Hz GSync that's a VA panel, but not IPS. Hmm I did not know that came out recently. Its going to need a few price drops though might as well buy a XB270hu or XB271hu.
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exquisite tea posted:I'm kind of annoyed that there is not a single monitor on the market that is IPS and 144hz and 1080p and G-Sync. There are TN monitors at that resolution, and really pricey 1440p ones that are IPS, but having experienced either extreme for myself I'd really rather have 1080p with a mega high refresh rate than the reverse. I feel the same way, and on top of that, the 1080p tn g-sync panels are so overpriced that it's not much of a jump to go to the 144hz ips 1440p 27 inch panels with g-sync. Considering that the 27 incher ips' are all around 700 bucks USD, it's just... eugh.
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The Acer XF240H is a much better value and its silly that yesterday it was priced at $175.00 on Newegg.
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Green Gloves posted:The Acer XF240H is a much better value and its silly that yesterday it was priced at $175.00 on Newegg. That's freesync. I don't know if these are comprehensive lists but they're handy for narrowing down your options based on the specs you're looking for. No 24" 1080p 144Hz IPS *sync monitors sadly. You'd think that would be a prime spot in the market but apparently not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_G-Sync#List_of_G-Sync-enabled_monitors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_FreeSync#List_of_FreeSync_monitors
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Can I get a recommendation for a 23"-25" IPS panel 1080p monitor with a VESA mount? 144hz would be nice too.
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:That's freesync. I don't know if these are comprehensive lists but they're handy for narrowing down your options based on the specs you're looking for. No 24" 1080p 144Hz IPS *sync monitors sadly. You'd think that would be a prime spot in the market but apparently not. It seems like most manufacturers are betting on 1080p probably getting phased out in the next couple years, but to my eyes at least, pushing super high refresh rates on a card that's maybe a little overqualified for 1080p eclipses the better resolution.
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Is a gtx1060 too little card for a XB271hu? I need a new monitor badly and i don't mind investing in something i'll have for awhile, but i probably need a new video card too since I'm currently on a gtx760. I don't really want to drop $400 on a videocard when i'm also buying a $700 monitor, that stretches the budget a little too much.
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Jul 28, 2016 14:49
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:That's freesync. I don't know if these are comprehensive lists but they're handy for narrowing down your options based on the specs you're looking for. No 24" 1080p 144Hz IPS *sync monitors sadly. You'd think that would be a prime spot in the market but apparently not. I was referring to the post above mine. The 24" 144hz tn freesync panels are so much cheaper than a 24" 144hz tn gsync panel.
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exquisite tea posted:It seems like most manufacturers are betting on 1080p probably getting phased out in the next couple years, but to my eyes at least, pushing super high refresh rates on a card that's maybe a little overqualified for 1080p eclipses the better resolution. They can hope all they like but 95% of the monitors out there are 1080p or less. Unless the prices of 1440p monitors and cards with enough juice to drive them come way down, HD is going to be dominant for another few years. That's plenty long enough to make manufacturing 1080p 144Hz IPS adaptive sync monitors worthwhile.
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1440p is the current sweet spot. 4K is overkill for the moment, too expensive for little gain and a whole bunch of performance drawbacks. On the other hand even a lowly RX480 or GTX1060 can push 1440p with little compromise (which is also the answer to Fellis' question). Though with the way HMD tech is progressing, I'm not sure how much longer monitors and TVs will be around. I give it maybe a decade before they're the primary way we consume content. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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Jul 28, 2016 15:31
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Only 10 years before we can all look like dumb idiots in the name of fully immersive entertainment.
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exquisite tea posted:Only 10 years before we can all look like dumb idiots in the name of fully immersive entertainment. This is a good rundown of the tech: http://gpuofthebrain.com/blog/2016/7/22/how-magic-leap-will-work I'm not talking strictly about VR, more broadly AR. What would you choose: A bulky fixed resolution, fixed size screen that you can't move and is only capable of flat imagery, or the capability to display whatever you want anywhere? It means everyone will have to use their own device in the living room but hey, everyone has a smartphone already, right?
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I'm with you on that. In the not-too-distant future, having a TV in your house will seem antiquated. Maybe some will still be around for group viewing, but once AR is as ubiquitous as smartphones the massive display business is going away.
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Fellis posted:Is a gtx1060 too little card for a XB271hu? I need a new monitor badly and i don't mind investing in something i'll have for awhile, but i probably need a new video card too since I'm currently on a gtx760. I don't really want to drop $400 on a videocard when i'm also buying a $700 monitor, that stretches the budget a little too much. It's kind of borderline but I think that's a solid plan. You'll have the monitor much longer than any video card so put the money there first. Worst case scenario you have to turn the settings down a bit (it will still look gorgeous) and keep an eye out for a better GPU once newer games start to bog it down.
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The 1060 will waffle from 30-60ish FPS at 1440p in most games but you will need to actively play with detail toggles and turn stuff down. Even in Witcher 3 its problematic in many areas like cities. GSync helps with tearing but you'll still notice when the framerate dips to the 20s no matter what. If you want a stable 60fps at 1440p you need to go with a 1070.
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Quick question about resolution crts and lcds. I remember games back when I was younger looking a lot crisper. For instance if I emulate street fighter 3rd strike it looks fairly bad on my 24 inch wide screen, while keeping aspect ratio. However I swear arcade crts make the game look better. Despite the fact that the CRT screen is bigger than the active area on my monitor. I'm fairly sure the only thing that matters is pixel density, so I think the difference is all in my mind.
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Xeom posted:Quick question about resolution crts and lcds. I remember games back when I was younger looking a lot crisper. For instance if I emulate street fighter 3rd strike it looks fairly bad on my 24 inch wide screen, while keeping aspect ratio. However I swear arcade crts make the game look better. Despite the fact that the CRT screen is bigger than the active area on my monitor. Are you upscaling by an integer value with nearest-neighbor resizing?
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Xeom posted:Quick question about resolution crts and lcds. I remember games back when I was younger looking a lot crisper. For instance if I emulate street fighter 3rd strike it looks fairly bad on my 24 inch wide screen, while keeping aspect ratio. However I swear arcade crts make the game look better. Despite the fact that the CRT screen is bigger than the active area on my monitor. In a lot of those older 2D games there is a lot of smoothing and and upscaling going on because of the difference in resolution between the game's native display resolution and the fixed resolution of the LCD screen, this results in the game looking a lot less sharp than it could on a good CRT which can dynamically scale resolution/pixel size.
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Xeom posted:I'm fairly sure the only thing that matters is pixel density, so I think the difference is all in my mind. I think there are people who make shaders to emulate the original effect faithfully, might be worth a look.
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Xeom posted:Quick question about resolution crts and lcds. I remember games back when I was younger looking a lot crisper. For instance if I emulate street fighter 3rd strike it looks fairly bad on my 24 inch wide screen, while keeping aspect ratio. However I swear arcade crts make the game look better. Despite the fact that the CRT screen is bigger than the active area on my monitor. Long story short Third Strike uses tall rectangle pixels, so it doesn't scale smoothly on to a square pixel display. It's 384x224 resolution, which is a 12:7 aspect ratio, displayed on a 4:3 screen. 384x288 would be the correct 4:3 resolution. CRTs can get away with that but that means the usual lazy "multiply each pixel X times in both dimensions" tactic for scaling to a fixed resolution display doesn't work correctly and you end up with blurriness on the vertical dimension as it tries to display pixels with a 7:9 aspect ratio. Of course if you have a sufficiently high resolution display that you can actually scale each game pixel to 7x width and 9x height, it should look great. If I'm mathing correctly that's 2688x2016, so a 2160p "4K" display should be able to display this game (or any of the other numerous arcade games that also used this resolution on 4:3 CRTs) at the correct aspect ratio without any loss of quality from scaling.
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Thanks for the replies about the 1060/1070 everyone. I'm probably going to wait for a month or two (maybe black friday) to see if prices go down at all and maybe get a raise and save up a bit more. What's the best place to get a cheaper XB271hu? I saw the price was down to ~$700 on amazon recently. I know there's the acer refurb store on ebay, but i couldn't see a way to set up an alert through mobile. Do they have another online refurb place on the acer site or is it all done through ebay? I'm kind of leery of 3rd party for refurb/used.
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Anybody with an ASUS PG279Q want to offer their experience? After my first XB271HU was defective I'm curious if these have any better QC before I try another one.
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exquisite tea posted:Anybody with an ASUS PG279Q want to offer their experience? After my first XB271HU was defective I'm curious if these have any better QC before I try another one. Just got this and had zero QC issues. Back light bleed wasn't bad at all and only had one bad pixel that wasn't fixed by "unsticking" and it shows red and green fine but no blue so it isn't even noticeable unless you're staring at a blue screen looking for it. Just order from someplace with a good return policy imo but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the display.
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Amazon's got it for about $50 cheaper than their XB271hu offer right now and I have some gift money on my account still, so I thought I might roll the dice on it.
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After watching Terry Crews' finished pc build. I am convinced that I would love having an adjustable standing desk. I tried standing and playing Doom with a controller. Not only is it healthier. But I feel like my XR341Ck is even more immersive this way. Another reason why Ultrawides are awesome. I cant wait for football season. 4 game splitscreen will be incredible. Unfortunately gamepass probably wont be in 21:9. Green Gloves fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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ray_finkle_himself posted:OK, so after doing some research I've decided to get a 27" 2560x1440 monitor. I only play the occasional game so I don't need anything specialised for gaming - I've been using a Dell 2405FPW and have no complaints just to give you an idea of my expectations. Any recommendations on models/brands I should look at? Interested in an answer to this. I'm basically in the same spot.
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Green Gloves posted:After watching Terry Crews' finished pc build. I am convinced that I would love having an adjustable standing desk. I tried standing and playing Doom with a controller. Not only is it healthier. But I feel like my XR341Ck is even more immersive this way. it's not really "healthier." standing stationary for long periods of time is no better for you than sitting. it's healthier only if you use it as an excuse to be up and moving, which is what i do at work, but isn't really applicable to gaming. it feels fantastic, though
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wicka posted:it's not really "healthier." standing stationary for long periods of time is no better for you than sitting. it's healthier only if you use it as an excuse to be up and moving, which is what i do at work, but isn't really applicable to gaming. I feel like sitting for long periods puts a lot of strain on your knees and joints. Even standing stationary at work I feel like my knees feel much less stiff when I do activities than after sitting all day. Its still sedentary but I feel much better than sitting on my rear end for hours.
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Get a decent computer chair. Also a treadmill desk.
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