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StarMinstrel posted:Speaking of which, as someone that really does not care about games having billions of DLC (paradox I'm looking at you), anyone a bit annoyed at what they are categorizing as a "Freeloadable content"? Marketing teams can be dumb and overthink poo poo but it doesn't seem worth getting bent out of shape over IMO. Its free content, who cares.
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Zaphod42 posted:Marketing teams can be dumb and overthink poo poo but it doesn't seem worth getting bent out of shape over IMO. Its free content, who cares. My brain. My brain cares 
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Someone also dug up a new passive vortex ability named "Squigs Gone Wild" that got added with the patch so that's a thing.
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Are you literally whining about free stuff because they labelled it pretty much anything at all that indicates what it is? What the hell would you want to call it?
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I'm pretty sure CA calls it Free-LC on all their marketing stuff. I just double checked their blog about the plans for upcoming content and they explicitly call it such.
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So a cool thing I noticed. Every beastman unit gets a passive speed buff above wavering morale, which means all the units are effectively faster than their base stats would indicate. For example, Centigors, with the buff, have only one point less of speed than pistoliers. If they get close enough to start a charge animation, they can and will run them down. It also means all of their infantry can chase down routing units post-battle
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Jul 28, 2016 21:17
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Luminous Cow posted:Calm down, chomp I was making fun of chomp who did that on the same page
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Oh, nota bene. Beastman chaos spawn are not carbon copies of WoC spawn. Beastman spawn have poison attacks, I'm excited to see how that impact their effectiveness.
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So I keep trying to get through the dlc campaign but the skull takerz show up and then when I end the turn it cycles through AI, comes to them, and crashes. I guess I'm going to have to disable mods until I figure out the cause.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:23
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Sharzak posted:I was making fun of chomp who did that on the same page Please stop slandering me everyone tia.
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Chomp8645 posted:Please stop slandering me everyone tia. Leave Tia out of this, rear end in a top hat
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Jul 28, 2016 21:28
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Anyone else run into an issue where Karl Franz knows exactly where you are, and immediately abandons the Empire so he can hunt you down in Estalia? It's not really a big deal for me, thanks to the Beastmen ambush stance, it just seems really odd that Franz hates Beastmen more than anything else.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:32
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^ Karl Franz is a gigantic rear end in a top hat. He pulled that on me in my chaos game. I wound up playing benny hill with Franz in the chaos wastes as he tried to kill my fledging second horde on like turn 10.StarMinstrel posted:My brain. My brain cares It's about ethics in video game dlc But really, people with the dlc please keep posting poo poo it's making work far more tolerable!
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 Killed by my own bray herd. Not sure if this is a bug or some feature I missed.
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unwantedplatypus posted:Leave Tia out of this, rear end in a top hat Hey, some manners, you are addressing the Something Awful Total Warhammer Chompion of Champions.
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Trujillo posted:
clearly they do not respect your bleat
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I think it's worth noting that the Beastmen's giant and chaos spawn are both more powerful than their normal chaos brethren. Beastmen Giants have +12 melee attack, +10 charge bonus and no forest penalty. Beastman Chaos spawn have poison attacks and no forest penalty, but have -30 weapon strength. Look forward to seeing if how they play differently. It wold be cool if they could differentiate between Beastman trolls/Giants and chaos trolls/Giants like this too, they already look different Truecon420 fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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Astus posted:Anyone else run into an issue where Karl Franz knows exactly where you are, and immediately abandons the Empire so he can hunt you down in Estalia? It's not really a big deal for me, thanks to the Beastmen ambush stance, it just seems really odd that Franz hates Beastmen more than anything else. Karl and his allies did that to me a few times as Chaos : they travelled the world to reach me, despite their mainland being sacked and captured by VCs. I felt like I was in Attila all over again running from the horde as visigoths.
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How do you get your Beastman grand campaign off the ground? I'm at turn 30 and I'm still barely building anything because I can't afford a drat thing. Razing the capitol of Estalia gives you like 2k loving gold. I'm straight up broke constantly.
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StarMinstrel posted:Karl and his allies did that to me a few times as Chaos : they travelled the world to reach me, despite their mainland being sacked and captured by VCs. I felt like I was in Attila all over again running from the horde as visigoths. It was a fairly common issue with Chaos before, it's supposed to be greatly reduced with this patch though.
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cheese posted:How do you get your Beastman grand campaign off the ground? I'm at turn 30 and I'm still barely building anything because I can't afford a drat thing. Razing the capitol of Estalia gives you like 2k loving gold. I'm straight up broke constantly. you need to raid to supplement your income, fight a lot of battles to get loot, and maybe consider holding off on razing cities like that since it'll be a lot more profitable to do that when they're a little more developed
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Jamwad Hilder posted:you need to raid to supplement your income, fight a lot of battles to get loot, and maybe consider holding off on razing cities like that since it'll be a lot more profitable to do that when they're a little more developed Ahhhh ok I think I'm razing too many cities then. What are the go to units? I feel lost when picking between the Centigor/Razor herd/Minotaur buildings.
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ZearothK posted:Hey, some manners, you are addressing the Something Awful Total Warhammer Chompion of Champions. 
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Great, now I gotta play some matches against Chomp, show how things are done.
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cheese posted:Ahhhh ok I think I'm razing too many cities then. What are the go to units? I feel lost when picking between the Centigor/Razor herd/Minotaur buildings. Minotaurs and Ungor Archers do a surprising amount of work. I recommend minos as the first building. Bonus: it gives you access to the mino hero.
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Does anyone else find it ironic that the bloodthirsty, predatory, carnivorous cannibals are all based on herbivores/prey animals?
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unwantedplatypus posted:Does anyone else find it ironic that the bloodthirsty, predatory, carnivorous cannibals are all based on herbivores/prey animals? That's Chaos for you!
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Beat the mini-campaign on very hard in about 4-ish hours. Unfortunately you don't get anything for the ultimate campaign victory that you don't also get for the long campaign victory. I also like how they added wyverns and a pegasus and other assorted flying critters on the campaign map. Fresh Shesh Besh fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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How after several months of it being released can this not run on a newer system? I'm not the only person, too. Just CTDs all over the place so bad that it doesn't create a crash_report. Is it Windows 10 issues? Because I can't think of a single other reason it's this bad.
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Any recommended mods to make battles last a little longer without totally unbalancing everything?
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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:Beat the mini-campaign on very hard in about 4-ish hours. Unfortunately you don't get anything for the ultimate campaign victory that you don't also get for the long campaign victory. What do you mean by this? I can't think of anything that you "get" for beating any of the other campaigns (except Bird Brain, now) unless you are talking about achievements or something.
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Someone mentioned it already before but beating the mini-campaign unlocks Todbringer as a general for custom games and multiplayer. So what I mean is this happens regardless of which conditions you complete. I doubt that counts as spoilers but whatever.
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No it's not really a spoiler but that's ok. Forgot about the Todd unlock thing. Kylo Ren kills his father, Han Solo
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Overcasting Devolve is pretty wicked, it's almost like Fate of Bjuna that can affect multiple units in a huge AoE. Casting it into a melee feels just plain mean and it's a great way to open a Beastman Ambush since it kills models right off the bat and wrecks elites and chaff just the same.
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Had a great opening to the mini-campaign where both Carroburg armies managed to track me down, but I pulled out a decisive victory. Clearing out the Greatswords and killing off one of the armies was a huge boost in tempo.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Overcasting Devolve is pretty wicked, it's almost like Fate of Bjuna that can affect multiple units in a huge AoE. Casting it into a melee feels just plain mean and it's a great way to open a Beastman Ambush since it kills models right off the bat and wrecks elites and chaff just the same. Word. My Malagor got attacked by an Empire army with Knights when all I had was trash Ungor units, Devolve just cleaned house.
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I really like how many Vanguard Deployment units the Beastmen have, it makes the battle dynamic so different from other factions. Also it feels like it makes fighting manually much better than autoresolve, I've got so many decisive victories out of supposedly 50/50 matchups.
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cheese posted:Ahhhh ok I think I'm razing too many cities then. What are the go to units? I feel lost when picking between the Centigor/Razor herd/Minotaur buildings. You'll get a surprising amount of mileage out of Ungor Raiders throughout the early and mid game, they're dirt cheap and do good work. Otherwise Minotaurs and Centigors are really your go-to units. Minotaurs demolish basically everything they come in contact with and Centigors are good fast cav with vanguard so they'll do reliable work picking off artillery, missile units, and cleaning up fights. In retrospect, the infantry building isn't worth rushing upgrades for. You get various flavors of light infantry with vanguard but aside from being cheap fodder they don't count for much. Good early game but there's a steep fall-off when fighting real armies, even for Gors. Always build the regular Gors btw, shielded Gors give up Vanguard which is in no way a good trade. Bestigors can't vanguard and take three turns to recruit (You can build Greatweapon Mino's and Axe-thrower Centigors in two turns.) so I don't find them actually that useful. Basically just get some archers early, build up a pile of expendable trash infantry and then supplement them with Bulls/Centaurs as soon as you can manage.
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Was just comparing unit stats in custom battle, and the beastmen seem to have really lovely infantry. Even the ones without vanguard deployment compare badly to their orc equivalents. Bestigors are pretty alright compared to black orcs cost for cost, but the rest are poo poo. Also noticed that beastmen giants are better for the same cost than orc and chaos giants, which is a good bonus. Their chaos spawn have 30 less weapon damage in exchange for poisoned attacks, which might be good if it means surviving longer. Seems to me like centigaurs and minotaurs are the only real stand out units though. Edit: Didn't account for primal fury, that evens things out a bit I guess. Gammymajams fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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Out of curiosity, is the Beastman language a conlang that CA made up or some GW thing? Or are they all speaking Finnish or something pitched really low.
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