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UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

TBeats posted:

an NCO at Jackson died after the two mile run.

sounds like he literally did not have the heart for it.

:golfclap:

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Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

TBeats posted:

an NCO at Jackson died after the two mile run.

sounds like he literally did not have the heart for it.

quote:

FORT JACKSON, S.C. (AP) – Army officials say a non-commissioned officer has died at Fort Jackson at the end of a physical fitness test.

Fort Jackson spokesman Patrick Jones said in a news release that the solider finished the final event in the test – a two-mile run – just before collapsing Thursday. He died at the hospital a short time later.

Jones says the soldier was from Delta Company, 120th Adjutant General Battalion and was attending a senior leadership course. His name has not been released.

The Army is investigating the death.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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what was his time though i need to know if he is a good nco/soldier/human/promotable or not

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

what was his time though i need to know if he is a good nco/soldier/human/promotable or not

15:32

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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oh gently caress em he was poo poo

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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i feel real bad posting that, sorry dude and your family, RIP

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

i feel real bad posting that, sorry dude and your family, RIP

yeah me too


eating it after a pt test is a lovely way to end a life

i mean if i was gonna die i'd at least do it before situps

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Maybe he wasn't wearing his pt belt.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

are people still dying from preworkouts and poo poo

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:

are people still dying from preworkouts and poo poo

What do your army values tell you?

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

selfless service, got it

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
The past month has been a bad one for Lewis with 3 deaths I believe. 1 drowned during PT, half way point of a ruck he went for a swim in a lake. Another died during a run. Can't remember how the third one died.

The first guy was on his last day of work before going on leave with his wife and kids.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

What do your army values tell you?

CROSSFIT CROSSFIT CROSSFIT

Lugnut Seatcushion
May 4, 2013
Lipstick Apathy
How do you die on a run. Like, I know it happens but how

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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heart plum gave out

J.A.B.C.
Jul 2, 2007

There's no need to rush to be an adult.


cravius posted:

How do you die on a run. Like, I know it happens but how

Somebody ain't gonna make it!
(Somebody ain't gonna make it!)

Weak Lil heart can't take it!
(Weak Lil heart can't take it!)

In all honesty, sorry for the loss.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

cravius posted:

How do you die on a run. Like, I know it happens but how

well you see in the army there is this thing called "grinch syndrome." it does a few things to an individual. number 1, it turns them into a jaded piece of poo poo. it usually happens to enlisted right around the time they are going to be promoted to specialist. and number 2, it makes your heart grow three sizes in order to accommodate the army values, hooah?

some people are resistant to the grinch syndome. i will let the news tell you about what happens to these people.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
I think number 2 is called cardiomegaly

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009
theres also a thing called heatstroke. dude i knew stroked out on a run and his heart stopped but they were able to revive him, or so the story went. anyway he was way more retarded after the fact

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

theres also a thing called heatstroke. dude i knew stroked out on a run and his heart stopped but they were able to revive him, or so the story went. anyway he was way more retarded after the fact
Did they not know how to do chest compressions? Lack of oxygen during those crucial few minutes can really gently caress people up if they even survive.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

cravius posted:

How do you die on a run. Like, I know it happens but how

I don't know the physics of it, but we had an older NCO (he'd served in the Gulf War as a Marine, then switched over) who was about 400 meters from the end of the walk event due to his profile, and mid stride just faceplanted. The medic on scene was a fast dude and saw it happen and screamed down there in his PTs with an aid bag. Heart was stopped before the medic even got there, ambulance arrived within about 5 minutes, dude died. Just to add to the "wtf" of it all, he was about 4-6 months from retirement and this would've been his last PT test IIRC.

He did have numerous medical issues, but as far as we could tell prior to his death, they were well managed and he still did PT and went to the field and was active in his off time.

RichieHimself
May 27, 2004

No way dude, she looks like Gargamel.
One of my NCOs passed out after a PT test run because he took some shady energy pills right before and his heart almost exploded. My squad leader kept it quiet otherwise I'm sure we would've had to take a class or two on the dangers of gas station energy pills.

During my last deployment my bro went down during a run and the folks in the CSH held him overnight and then told him to contact his family because he had a hole in his heart and they were going to fly him to Germany for surgery the next day. Next day comes and my buddy is freaking out, the docs come back and tell him "never mind you're fine, you can return to duty." They never did tell him why he passed out or why they thought he had a hole in his heart.

thetechnoloser
Feb 11, 2003

Say hello to post-apocalyptic fun!
Grimey Drawer
I'm one of those guys who went down at the tail end of a run, was taken to the aid station with an insane BP and heart rate, rushed to the ER in an ambulance...

ER (civilian hospital) checked me out, said "Well, you might have had a small heart attack, but we're not sure."

Army hospital had me wear a blackberry with EKG leads for like a week to log data, said 'You had an unexplained minor cardiac event, but not a heart attack, we think. You're fine, drive on."

I assume I'm just gonna drop dead at some point. Go Army.

benem
Feb 15, 2012
So I've had two consistently-offered, contradictory pieces of advice regarding Army medicine: 1) avoid as much as possible, 2) definitely take advantage of the free PRK/LASIK.

Any horror stories I should hear about before I ask an Army doc cut my eyes open?

xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

benem posted:

So I've had two consistently-offered, contradictory pieces of advice regarding Army medicine: 1) avoid as much as possible, 2) definitely take advantage of the free PRK/LASIK.

Any horror stories I should hear about before I ask an Army doc cut my eyes open?

Anecdotal, but I had an army doctor do my eyes (PRK) and they came out fine.

brains
May 12, 2004

benem posted:

So I've had two consistently-offered, contradictory pieces of advice regarding Army medicine: 1) avoid as much as possible, 2) definitely take advantage of the free PRK/LASIK.

Any horror stories I should hear about before I ask an Army doc cut my eyes open?

ex girlfriend got her PRK done through the army (we broke up before this went down) and the procedure was pretty simple and quick. then they told her to use prescription eyedrops at specific times, which was like multiple times a day for a couple weeks or something. she didn't. now her vision is blurry because she's a loving retard.

just follow the exact instructions they give you after the procedure and you'll be fine.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

brains posted:

ex girlfriend got her PRK done through the army (we broke up before this went down) and the procedure was pretty simple and quick. then they told her to use prescription eyedrops at specific times, which was like multiple times a day for a couple weeks or something. she didn't. now her vision is blurry because she's a loving retard.

just follow the exact instructions they give you after the procedure and you'll be fine.

This. I've known several people who had it done. The one with slightly blurry vision wasn't very careful with the drops, but his vision is still WAY better than before. The others with crystal clear vision was 100% on schedule with drops, including dropping during the middle of big meetings, and they have zero regrets.

e: lol I got an avatar because I told people that conspiracy theories about paid DNC clappers were dumb as gently caress.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

This. I've known several people who had it done. The one with slightly blurry vision wasn't very careful with the drops, but his vision is still WAY better than before. The others with crystal clear vision was 100% on schedule with drops, including dropping during the middle of big meetings, and they have zero regrets.

e: lol I got an avatar because I told people that conspiracy theories about paid DNC clappers were dumb as gently caress.

Was it a thread full of Berniebros insisting that nobody was actually applauding?

I got PRK through a civilian doctor and it loving owns. Whether you get the military to pay for it or do it yourself, do it.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

psydude posted:

Was it a thread full of Berniebros insisting that nobody was actually applauding?

I think Trump bros, but yes.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

Release the Kraken
I wanted to get PRK but the army doc who did my evaluation said I have some calcification on one of my eyes and if they did the procedure, it may get aggrivated and blind me.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Aranan posted:

I wanted to get PRK but the army doc who did my evaluation said I have some calcification on one of my eyes and if they did the procedure, it may get aggrivated and blind me.

Sucks. I'm hoping the tech has matured enough for me to get work in a year or so. On the civilian side I was considered high risk due to Fuchs' dystrophy.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

benem posted:

1) avoid as much as possible, 2) definitely take advantage of the free PRK/LASIK.


my advice.

Also, make sure that you at least get seen for anything that comes up, even if you don't get it treated. As long as they take notes about anything you'll be able to get a claim through the VA a lot easier

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

Tango Down!
Can confirm, PRK is the poo poo. Do it. I fly helicopters now because I got it.

And take pain meds before you go to sleep because you WILL wake up in the middle of the night feeling like your eyes are on fire otherwise.

The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

Another vote for PRK. I paid for it after I got out, but it was the best money I ever spent.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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i went through the whole process for PRK at ft hood like 10 years ago and they said my eyes were too bad to get it


shameful

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
what does that mean though? like they won't consider it if they can't get you to 20/20 or something? or do you just risk making your eyes explode more than someone with better vision? or it just won't do anything at all for you?

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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gently caress if I know they were like "we can't do this you'd probably have to go to Bethesda or something :shrug:"

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
It means your cornea (really, a specific layer - the cornea is 11 layers) is too thin and/or has spots that are too thin to do PRK. It involves cutting/regrowing of the cornea and lens beneath, as well as surrounding tissue above the iris, and you need to have thick enough supporting structure.

Lower prescriptions (<-3.00 or so) are almost universally doable, but above -4.00 PRK is a case-by-case basis. LASIK is more appropriate for high-minus individuals.

Super bad prescriptions can't do LASIK or PRK and instead need to do RK, which is a barbaric, medieval-style torture procedure involving abrasively removing tissue in the hopes that it'll heal into your correction. You think PRK involves pain? HA!


I was an optician for 8 years before joining. I joined because I hated my lifestyle and my line of work (though I was very good at it - licensed refracting ABO/NCLE optician in ID and WA).

How little did I know. How much did I underestimate the Army sucking.


E: -5.00 here. At least it's spherical (no astigmatism) so I can just buy cheapass contact lenses.

Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jul 31, 2016

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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-7.5 :getin:

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Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

gently caress if I know they were like "we can't do this you'd probably have to go to Bethesda or something :shrug:"

why so they can make a janky open world rpg about your blindness?

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