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Pheeets posted:No Detta or Odetta either. Remember, she left and went back to NYC with Eddie at the end of #7. So no Eddie either. Although, if the movie does well, they're not ruling either one out for future installments, possibly in other media. I was just playing because she had three names. I thought we all agreed Aaron Paul would play Eddie though? I need this.
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syscall girl posted:King had a great adviser on carny slang though. Who was it? I've worked as a "carny" for 19 years now and here definitely is a language on the road and he did get a lot of it right.
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I'd watch Aaron Paul in just about anything. I saw this on some social media site and thought it was laugh-worthy: "I hate when you’re watching a procedural crime drama and they cast a well known actor as the surprise killer so the detective is like, Hmmm I wonder if it was the baker, the doctor, or Bryan Cranston the Janitor. "
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kenny powerzzz posted:Who was it? I've worked as a "carny" for 19 years now and here definitely is a language on the road and he did get a lot of it right. He just had a note about it i Joyland and didn't name a name.
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syscall girl posted:I was just playing because she had three names. I don't know, I don't see Eddie as Aaron Paul, at least not the written version of Eddie which admittedly probably isn't exactly what we're going to get. Regarding whether he/Susannah will be in the movie - I know things are going to be different in the movie timeline but I hope they don't deviate wildly from the book plotline, at least through the first few books. I think he still needs to draw a supporting cast with at least some Cuthbert reincarnation (whether it's Eddie or someone else), and presumably Walter is going to leave Jake for him to find again. I feel like if they just scrap everything and write a whole new story with completely new characters and events it's going to come off as fanfic. Maybe they can leave out the lightsabers and Harry Potter and make the Crimson King actually intimidating, but otherwise I think they should at least try to stick to the source material major plotlines. Also Oy better be in it.
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Murphy Brownback posted:I don't know, I don't see Eddie as Aaron Paul, at least not the written version of Eddie which admittedly probably isn't exactly what we're going to get. Oy will be played by a red panda. 
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Pheeets posted:I'd watch Aaron Paul in just about anything. Legit, though. I was watching Longmire and they're like "all these guys have motive" but one of them is Peter Stormare so it's pretty obvious who the episode is about.
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syscall girl posted:Oy will be played by a red panda. I'm down with this casting decision.
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racecardriver posted:If this thread has been made before, I will close this (sorry, I'm somewhat new; I also can't search). I've just always wanted to complain about how bad "Cujo" is. Also, I'm about halfway through "Tommyknockers" right now, and I'm thinking it's not so great. I read Salem's Lot, Cycle of the Werewolf, On Writing, and listened to Under the Dome on CD. I never liked King's writing style much but On Writing is my favorite book by King, and is the best book on the subject. His fiction is too 50's nostalgic for my taste.
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I can't believe this thread was started by someone who thinks Cujo sucks.
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d0s posted:I just feel like he doesn't have any advisers on that subject for some reason, like you can tell with the EMT stuff at the beginning he had some EMT giving him real, inside knowledge of that profession and that sequence worked really well, it was great. I think he's either got his kids giving him advice when it come to computer crap or some other non professional, in any case it's someone who doesn't really get how computer people talk and it's just as jarring as if he had the cops or EMTs talking all goofy, maybe even moreso since most people interact with IT people more often at work and stuff. I don't have any great love for that profession,it just takes me out of the story and makes me feel like I'm reading a dad e-mail He dropped the ball on the EMT stuff when he had them start doing CPR on someone at the scene of a multiple casualty incident. If there's more patients than ambulances and someone's not breathing, don't bother, tag them black, and find someone you can actually help. That's like, rule one of triaging people. It really irked me because he had nailed it up until then.
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is anyone else reading the new book as a metaphor for how staring at the bleep bloopity screens all day hypnotizes you so that bad guys can radicalize your brain. the part where the rich black girl got class consciousness from her tablet and wandered suicidally through the hood until she was saved by the well spoken young black kid who wants to be a basketball player but also gets straight As whose "hands were sculpted for holding a basketball" was awkward. god damnit stephen king e: Ugly In The Morning posted:He dropped the ball on the EMT stuff when he had them start doing CPR on someone at the scene of a multiple casualty incident. If there's more patients than ambulances and someone's not breathing, don't bother, tag them black, and find someone you can actually help. That's like, rule one of triaging people. It really irked me because he had nailed it up until then. god damnit stephen king
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I can't believe this thread was started by someone who thinks Cujo sucks. Cujo is average at best; it's an extremely bleak book, and not in an interesting way like Pet Sematary. Also the reference to The Dead Zone felt REALLY shoehorned-in and unnecessary.
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Cujo is an excellent, blistering family drama.
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Well. King himself has said he was completely high during the writing of Cujo and cannot remember anything of it. I'll try to get my source (one of his interviews in other books maybe?). But it explains why it is so uninspired.the ending saying cujo was just a good dog that got sick almost made me cry though.
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For Cujo talk, he talks about being hosed up in On Writing, but goes into more detail about the story and inspiration in Bare Bones.
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NeruVolpi posted:But it explains why [Cujo] is so uninspired.the ending saying cujo was just a good dog that got sick almost made me cry though.
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Murphy Brownback posted:Regarding whether he/Susannah will be in the movie - The director has come out and said that Eddie and Susannah will not be in the first movie but they would appear in the sequel (if they get to make one.)
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Cujo is one of my favorite King books, whether he remembers writing it or not. I re-read it not too long ago when I discovered this thread and so many people poo poo on it. I wanted to make sure it didn't suck and it didn't. I particularly like the way he introduced supernatural elements into it but still managed to keep it grounded by making them dreams and figments of Tad's imagination, which is always way scarier to me than most of the poo poo he's done since he got sober. If King had written it within the last 10 or 15 years, Cujo would have been morphed into a wolf with octopus tentacles, spider legs with chain whips who crawls through an inter-dimensional band saw covered in mystic runes and would have eaten the entire Ford Pinto just after it magically turned into a horse. Joe's mechanic shop would have turned into some strange obsidian walled, blood soaked factory surrounded by aliens, lightening, snakes and living cereal box mascots brandishing knives. Tad would have had psychic, teleportation or telekineses powers before suddenly remembering that he was a vampire all along right before biting his mother to give her the power to kill the demon tentacle dog. It wasn't until years later I realized that there are absolutely no chapters in Cujo. Might explain why I read it so fast both times and found it hard to put down.
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d0s posted:
Pretty much any time Stephen King does research and shows it, he always drops the ball at the last second. At least he's actually bothering to get most of it right these days.
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BiggerBoat posted:Cujo is one of my favorite King books, whether he remembers writing it or not. I re-read it not too long ago when I discovered this thread and so many people poo poo on it. I wanted to make sure it didn't suck and it didn't. I particularly like the way he introduced supernatural elements into it but still managed to keep it grounded by making them dreams and figments of Tad's imagination, which is always way scarier to me than most of the poo poo he's done since he got sober. Cujo was the one book I didn't read from that era in that era when I was a kid. If I remember, I wasn't interested in a story about a dog at all so I pretty much ignored it. I read it a couple of years ago and realised how good it was. It's one of my favorites now. I didn't think it would be that gripping or even interesting way back when, but it really is incredibly suspenseful and a good read. The 70s clothes and settings I imagine in my head-movie while I read that and others of that time is fun. I'm doing another disorganised re-read and Cujo's next on my list. I definitely prefer the early King, his writing was so tight and fresh. I don't begrudge the guy, he's a different man living a profoundly different life than he did at that time and I couldn't expect him to write with the exact same vigor and style. I could be quite happy if he had retired quite a few years ago but it's also comforting in that nostalgic way that he's still going.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Pretty much any time Stephen King does research and shows it, he always drops the ball at the last second. At least he's actually bothering to get most of it right these days. Counterpoint: a) guns b) black people d) young people e) computers/IT f) .....
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Counterpoint: Alright, fine, trying to get more than normal right these days. He didn't gently caress any gun stuff up in End of Watch, as far as I recall. That was a surprise.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:He didn't gently caress any gun stuff up in End of Watch, as far as I recall. That was a surprise. Going out on a limb here and guessing this is referring to King's essays/rants about gun violence.
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Ornamented Death posted:Going out on a limb here and guessing this is referring to King's essays/rants about gun violence. No, just that when guns are described in King books, he usually uses a bunch of terms he heard someone say somewhere but doesn't really understand. Full auto colt .45s and "recoilless rifles firing seventy gas tipped slugs a second" and whatnot.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:No, just that when guns are described in King books, he usually uses a bunch of terms he heard someone say somewhere but doesn't really understand. Full auto colt .45s and "recoilless rifles firing seventy gas tipped slugs a second" and whatnot. Yeah, more or less. I just heard that King fluffed some gun stuff. As the writers seemed to know what they were talking about I just accepted the idea that King doesn't research guns well. Can anyone here give some examples of King's gun goofs?
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Yeah, more or less. I just heard that King fluffed some gun stuff. As the writers seemed to know what they were talking about I just accepted the idea that King doesn't research guns well. Can anyone here give some examples of King's gun goofs? He thinks they can be used as dildos and are a real pain in the rear end.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Yeah, more or less. I just heard that King fluffed some gun stuff. As the writers seemed to know what they were talking about I just accepted the idea that King doesn't research guns well. Can anyone here give some examples of King's gun goofs? The most memorable goof is the one from the stand that I quoted in that post. He has someone with a "recoilless rifle firing seventy gas tipped slugs a second". A recoilless rifle isn't some fancy assault rifle. It's basically a bazooka. Gas tipped slugs... I have no idea what that even is. And seventy rounds a second is a number he just picked out of the air. That'd be 4200 rounds a minute, which is just shy of what a minigun puts out. Oh, and he fires it in an enclosed space, so if it was a recoilless rifle the backblast would turn everyone in the room into chunky salsa. In Dr Sleep he talks about someone's fully automatic colt .45. A colt .45 is automatic, in the sense that it cycles itself with each shot, but it's semi automatic. A fully automatic one would be pretty much an Uzi with a 7 round clip. Ugly In The Morning fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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NeruVolpi posted:Well. King himself has said he was completely high during the writing of Cujo and cannot remember anything of it. King was BLOTTO through the whole eighties. When he filmed in NC workers on set still have a plethora of funny/good/bad/OMG stories about him. https://youtu.be/ggWS4tTzs60
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Ramen Pride! posted:King was BLOTTO through the whole eighties. When he filmed in NC workers on set still have a plethora of funny/good/bad/OMG stories about him. do you have a link to these stories, would love to read them
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Counterpoint: huh
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At this point (having just read End of Watch) I wonder if King purposely misuses "clip" for "magazine" just to get under the skin of the type of people who probably send him bags of hate mail over gun poo poo.
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Dr. Faustus posted:At this point (having just read End of Watch) I wonder if King purposely misuses "clip" for "magazine" just to get under the skin of the type of people who probably send him bags of hate mail over gun poo poo. I brought up neal stephenson earlier who is known for almost autistically accurate gun stuff (among many other specialties) but he still uses clip instead of magazine every chance he can get, probably as some kind of way to distance himself from gun nut culture e: I'm not a gun nut but I still appreciate it when writers try to get stuff like that right, no matter what it is really. "I don't like thing" isn't an excuse for lovely research. I don't mind the "clip" stuff because it's widely used slang even though technically incorrect, just the flagrantly dumb poo poo like gas tipped bullets etc d0s fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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I recently re-read REAMDE and noticed that, too. I enjoy reading Stephenson so much, it didn't bother me. Just before that I read Seveneves and loved it. All of it. Dude writes for me. King does, too.
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Dr. Faustus posted:I recently re-read REAMDE and noticed that, too. I enjoy reading Stephenson so much, it didn't bother me. Just before that I read Seveneves and loved it. All of it. Dude writes for me. I found seveneves depressing & lacking any of the fun of his previous books but still think it's a million times better than end of watch, which I'm officially hatereading. I'm one of the most forgiving stephen king fans there is (I legit enjoy tommyknockers, geralds game, dolores claiborne, etc) but the hodges trilogy is just really bad on so many levels and end of watch is the worst of them by a mile d0s fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:At this point (having just read End of Watch) I wonder if King purposely misuses "clip" for "magazine" just to get under the skin of the type of people who probably send him bags of hate mail over gun poo poo. oh i thought that guy was perturbed king (rightfully) is pro gun control. mea culpa. d0s posted:I found seveneves depressing & lacking any of the fun of his previous books but still think it's a million times better than end of watch, which I'm officially hatereading. I'm one of the most forgiving stephen king fans there is (I legit enjoy tommyknockers, geralds game, dolores claiborne, etc) but the hodges trilogy is just really bad on so many levels and end of watch is the worst of them by a mile stephenson and king have kinda the same issue for me where most of the premises are insanely cool and good but then the execution is either lackluster or boring. i know stephenson's thing is infodumps but i loving hate infodumps and it's incredibly lazy writing. king it always takes way too long to get to the "good stuff" except in a few instances - i know a lot of people here like the background but there's a point where it gets to be too much and get on with it. tommyknockers is a fantastic example of that, if it was half as long it'd be twice as good. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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tbh the only time stephenson's infodumps annoyed me was most recently in seveneves where it was like he was trying to be as dry and "hard SF" as possible, for pretty much the entire rest of his work I always loved them, even the crackpot stoner sumerian stuff in snow crash. I do see how they're similar in that they're both prolific and popular genre writers with signature quirks that seem like neuroses because they're repeated so often. people have been reading both of these guys since childhood (when you're a lot more forgiving) and that stuff ends up seeming familiar or welcoming, but to new/less constant readers it may be offputting
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