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Been watchin Furys lately, Newegg has Sapphire Nitro Fury for $300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202187&cm_re=R9_fury-_-14-202-187-_-Product e: Tri-X OC Setset fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Jul 30, 2016 |
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Just chiming in to say that the palit gamerock 1080 cooler is really quiet. All I can hear at full load is the faint whoosh of air. (the only other fans running in it are two noctua fans at 1100rpm). The superior German review of this card seems correct so far. I highly recommend them. On 1080p until the vive arrives, dafuck. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Jul 30, 2016 |
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Jul 30, 2016 14:15
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lmao if you got a 1080 and didn't spring for at least a 1440p 120hz+ monitor. e: wait... hth that's better
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Jul 30, 2016 14:38
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Would getting a real cheap second GTX 970 for SLI be worth it if I'm only running 2560x1080?
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Jul 30, 2016 14:58
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Tommofork posted:lmao if you got a 1080 and didn't spring for at least a 1440p 120hz+ monitor. Yea, I'll be looking at 1440p in the next couple of months, seems like that's the sweet spot for these cards. Stoked about the vive arriving next week. Does the latest driver let the vive run from displayport now?
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Jul 30, 2016 15:40
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Ninkobei posted:Been watchin Furys lately, Newegg has Sapphire Nitro Fury for $300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202187&cm_re=R9_fury-_-14-202-187-_-Product This is tempting. Close in price to the 480 aibs but more powerful. I want to hold out for Vega but my 7950 is barely holding on at 1440p.
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Subjunctive posted:That's not how averages work, unless those are the only ones for sale. I was giving a quick example. However, now I'm wondering if I would be better off getting the 1070 and using the money elsewhere. Part of me says I would be better off investing a little more, but my equation completely ignores the value per dollar factor, and my understanding is that you pay a huge premium for the 1080, and don't get the best value per dollar ratio. That $12.50 could be used for other things, for example. Basically I have no idea if I should get the 1070 or the 1080, and I keep fluctuating between the two. Also, what is the deal with coil whine on the 1070 and 1080? From reading reviews, it looks like it's basically luck of the draw due to poor quality control? Bioshuffle fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Jul 30, 2016 |
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wipeout posted:Yea, I'll be looking at 1440p in the next couple of months, seems like that's the sweet spot for these cards. Yeah they fixed the DP bug a few drivers ago.
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Jul 30, 2016 16:29
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Ninkobei posted:Been watchin Furys lately, Newegg has Sapphire Nitro Fury for $300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202187&cm_re=R9_fury-_-14-202-187-_-Product
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Jul 30, 2016 17:04
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Update about the Amazon thing, if you get them to agree to a return watch out for a restocking fee. Got them to credit it, but it's there.
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Jul 30, 2016 17:18
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ghetto wormhole posted:Would getting a real cheap second GTX 970 for SLI be worth it if I'm only running 2560x1080? Kind of depends what 'real cheap' means and if most of the games you play support SLI.
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Isnt the R9 Fury like 5-10% faster on average than a 390x? I looked at one comparison on Hardocp that the main performance difference is that the Fury does tesselation better. Otherwise games that dont utilize hairworks or little tesselation performance is really similar. At $300 a Fury isnt bad. After that might as well spring for a 1070. Also Ive seen used 390/390x go for around $180 -$250. I just bought a XFX 390x from a guy that *upgraded* to a 480 with plans to crossfire them. I guess he wanted to trade extra performance for power efficiency.
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Krailor posted:Kind of depends what 'real cheap' means and if most of the games you play support SLI. Never SLI.
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ghetto wormhole posted:Would getting a real cheap second GTX 970 for SLI be worth it if I'm only running 2560x1080? The standard recommendation for when you're considering SLI/Crossfire is almost always to sell your card and buy a bigger one instead. The exceptions are when you're already at the top card or when you only care about performance in a particular game that is known to scale very well with multi-GPU. This may change in the future if engines based on async compute or other more flexible multi-GPU methods catch on, but for now I think it still holds. If you know your PSU can handle it and you know that games you care about play well with SLI and you aren't able to run them at max settings now, then it might be worth considering but I would probably look at 1070s or used 980Tis instead.
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Subjunctive posted:Never SLI. If I could get a 970 for ~$100, that would be the point at which I'd consider throwing another one in for SLI. Otherwise if you need more performance I'd say get a 980ti for ~$400 and sell your 970 to help make up the diff.
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Jul 30, 2016 19:06
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Subjunctive posted:Never SLI. I've kept trying it a bunch of times and it always feels like pro gaming with an asterisk. Maybe DX12/Vulkan can make it work automagically, but any time devs have to lift a finger to make it work, they don't, and you can't blame them when it's like 0.1% of configs. If devs are going to support 0.1% of something I'd much rather it be 21:9
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Zero VGS posted:I've kept trying it a bunch of times and it always feels like pro gaming with an asterisk. Maybe DX12/Vulkan can make it work automagically, but any time devs have to lift a finger to make it work, they don't, and you can't blame them when it's like 0.1% of configs. This. SLI just isn't worth it. Source: I'm running dual 760s, and when it works it's wonderful but more often than not it's one card being used heavily and the other sitting idle. 21:9, on the other hand, is amazing and relatively easy for developers to support (compared to almost anything, but especially SLI). Unless you're Blizzard, of course.
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Gonkish posted:This. SLI just isn't worth it.
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The biggest problem with sli right now with newer games is (1) DX12 multi gpu isn't implemented yet on Microsoft's side of things and (2) SLI for VR isn't implemented yet in anything either. So the only way for SLI to work is if the developer specifically codes for it. Get a Titan XP, it'll be the best purchase you make for the next 3 months.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I.... think all the left side images look like crap. <.<;;;;; Hey, anyone (I.e. reviewers) do multiframe AA comparisons? One of the really big issues with this move towards temporal reprojection (although it existed before as well) is the fact that it's quite possible to make a still image look great when you zoom in, but using a technique that will have all sorts of stability/ghosting/crawling/flicker issues in motion. This sort of still image analysis was already kind of misleading (useless is probably too strong of a word) because you often cared more about scenes with at least subtle motion; now, however, it seems fundamentally inadequate. It doesn't seem too hard to capture, say, a 1s sequence, slow it down, and loop it instead. But it's also harder than just posting screenshots, so...
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Zero VGS posted:I've kept trying it a bunch of times and it always feels like pro gaming with an asterisk. Yeah it's very much exactly what you feel it is. My long a lovely journey of doing dual GPUs started with 7900GT SLI -> 4870X2 (yes, that huge honking card) -> a single 8800GTS 512 -> 470 SLI -> 670 SLI -> 970 SLI -> finally stopped loving around and got a single 1080. Running high resolutions has made running stuff with all them settings up a real task. If you ask me now if it was worth it I'd have to say no. All the additional hassle and considerations of doing SLI and even then it may work well in a decent amount of games. The budget angle always took me first because "I can get better than the top of the line card performance for slightly more money!" when I was really shortchanging myself. SLI made improvements over the years from where you might get +40%~ extra with a second card to maybe like +80%~ in mostly scenarios that didn't matter anymore. I'm thinking back of how much bullshit I could have saved myself by not being a GPU poor, like most of you in this thread, and shelling out the big bucks for the big card.
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Zero VGS posted:I've kept trying it a bunch of times and it always feels like pro gaming with an asterisk. Maybe DX12/Vulkan can make it work automagically, but any time devs have to lift a finger to make it work, they don't, and you can't blame them when it's like 0.1% of configs. DX12 is going to make it harder/impossible as it will require more direct support from devs rather than allowing the IHVs o do all the heavy lifting with driver/app profiles. There is a lot of talk about explicit multi-GPU but that gets even more iffy if you are talking about doing anything other than AFR because the bandwidth available between two GPUs is pretty drat limited, which vastly reduces how effectively two GPUs can cooperate on a single frame.
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SlayVus posted:The biggest problem with sli right now with newer games is (1) DX12 multi gpu isn't implemented yet on Microsoft's side of things The Quantum Break devs have stated that multiGPU is not coming as it would just take too much work - and if there's any title that could benefit from SLI it would be that one.
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ghetto wormhole posted:Would getting a real cheap second GTX 970 for SLI be worth it if I'm only running 2560x1080? In addition to  NEVER SLI , the 970, in my experience, is particularly bad for SLI because of the .5 GB of slow memory on it. You don't necessarily hit 3.5GB+ memory usage with a single card at 1080p, but at anything over that, you do, and that's when it gets all stuttery.It was fairly terrible for me at 1440p. The situation *might* be better at ultrawide 1080p, I guess, but I don't think it's worth the headache.
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Running SLI 970s here and yeah, the previous posts are right on the nose. More and more games don't support it at all and the scaling is inconsistent at best with those that do. Unless VR SLI starts to show up in actual games (right now it only exists in nVidia tech demos) multi-GPU is really hard to justify. If your comparison point is a used 970, see what you can get a used 980ti for and subtract from that what you'd get from selling your current 970. It probably won't be too far off and you'll have basically the same performance with none of the quirks. A friend of mine has a nearly identical PC build to mine (same CPU, mobo, RAM) and had two 970s which he changed out for a 980ti. He lost a small bit of performance in ideal cases for SLI like 3DMark but roughly broke even on games that support it and obviously gained a lot on games that only do single GPU. The loss in ideal cases was small enough to be made up for by overclocking and in a few titles where he was VRAM limited on 3.5/4GB the extra space allowed settings to be turned up with no loss in performance (GTA V most notably).
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Hubis posted:Hey, anyone (I.e. reviewers) do multiframe AA comparisons? One of the really big issues with this move towards temporal reprojection (although it existed before as well) is the fact that it's quite possible to make a still image look great when you zoom in, but using a technique that will have all sorts of stability/ghosting/crawling/flicker issues in motion. This sort of still image analysis was already kind of misleading (useless is probably too strong of a word) because you often cared more about scenes with at least subtle motion; now, however, it seems fundamentally inadequate. If there's anyone that *should* do it, it would be Nvidia, if they're trying to show off their own tech. The links that skuto dropped were to Nvidia's own site, after all, but they didn't.
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Gonna go against the grain here and say SLI is great. I've run it with 2 970's, then 980ti's and now 1080's. I game at 4k and would go as far as to say SLI is actually necessary. It was helpful with the 970's at 1080p as well to simply max every setting and get a constant 60fps. I play mostly modern games though (RS6 siege, dark souls 3, doom etc) and have yet to run into a game that doesn't support it. Honestly I've had zero issues, as someone in this thread previously said, the hardest thing about SLI is ticking the option box in the control panel.
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Gonkish posted:This. SLI just isn't worth it. Source: I'm running dual 760s, and when it works it's wonderful but more often than not it's one card being used heavily and the other sitting idle. We long ago established blizzard hates you, specifically.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:If there's anyone that *should* do it, it would be Nvidia, if they're trying to show off their own tech. The links that skuto dropped were to Nvidia's own site, after all, but they didn't. 
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El Scotch posted:We long ago established blizzard hates you, specifically. Blizzard hates me too
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Once upon a time, I bought a (then seven month old) 660ti with the Asus DirectCU fan and the factory overclocking for only $210 on Amazon, with a $20 rebate, and I was able to sell my old 460 for like $55 on eBay and get an okay card for $120 overall and 3.5 years later I'm still using it and only sometimes feeling the pressure to upgrade. But holy gently caress there is nothing like that going on now. I figured 970s would be that "we're now over six months old and there's something nicer out there" card at discount but nope. A 960 isn't enough of an upgrade to justify.
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Craptacular! posted:Once upon a time, I bought a (then seven month old) 660ti with the Asus DirectCU fan and the factory overclocking for only $210 on Amazon, with a $20 rebate, and I was able to sell my old 460 for like $55 on eBay and get an okay card for $120 overall and 3.5 years later I'm still using it and only sometimes feeling the pressure to upgrade. 
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Apprently the RX 470 is due out next month (with AIBs I guess?) and it starts at $150. That could be a really nice upgrade from a 660Ti.
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Craptacular! posted:Once upon a time, I bought a (then seven month old) 660ti with the Asus DirectCU fan and the factory overclocking for only $210 on Amazon, with a $20 rebate, and I was able to sell my old 460 for like $55 on eBay and get an okay card for $120 overall and 3.5 years later I'm still using it and only sometimes feeling the pressure to upgrade. A 480 is technically $200 somewhere ... But that's with some baggage lol. I mean 3.5 years and a 1060 has went up $40 thats not exactly "nothing out there" but it is a brand new card it will be a while before that's lower.I remember $220 660tis though. They were good for that price.
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I'm back on Nvidia for the first time in almost eight years. Where do I see my card's temperature and fan speed in the drivers. Do I need Afterburner? My card is an MSI so all the better if so.
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While looking for RX 480's (at a not insane price) i found a store that still has 8 geforce GTX 480 in stock @ €510 each. Should i jump on this deal?
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Shumagorath posted:I'm back on Nvidia for the first time in almost eight years. Where do I see my card's temperature and fan speed in the drivers. Do I need Afterburner? My card is an MSI so all the better if so. Yup Afterburner has all that stuff
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NihilismNow posted:While looking for RX 480's (at a not insane price) i found a store that still has 8 geforce GTX 480 in stock @ €510 each. Should i jump on this deal? Did you make a typo there or is someone out there seriously trying to sell GTX 480s for over 500 euros?
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Finally got around to installing my Arctic Accelero Xtreme IV on my 1080 to replace the ref blower. Ran the dx12 3dmark test a few times and it never bumped above 58 and was still ultra quiet. I'm impressed.
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HMS Boromir posted:Did you make a typo there or is someone out there seriously trying to sell GTX 480s for over 500 euros? Well €510.78 to be precise. They also have a Radeon 5870 @ €255, but only 1 remaining in stock so i should get on that quickly right? Though they also have 2 6870's in stock @ €233 so maybe i should get those instead? This shop is like a treasure trove of never discounted 5 year old hardware.
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