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I'd honestly have to go with Angry "Slab" Lobster because that's an amazing name that was given.
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Doobie Keebler posted:I've definitely had Demolition miss or fail in the past. I haven't used it in a while because of that so maybe it was changed with a recent patch. If not, I'm sure there's a mod for it. Demolition would win out for me if it wasn't for that. Early-game grenadiers are about knocking down cover, so Demo is one more tool in their box. Suppression is nice but it's still giving the enemy a chance to shoot which is always a bad idea. It has a 81% base Accuracy, which can be raised but not by Scopes only direct Soldier Buffs.
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Jul 31, 2016 07:18
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Alessandra "misclick" Margottini
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Jul 31, 2016 07:25
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AradoBalanga posted:Angry Lobster: "zer0c00l" (remember, he's got that hacking protocol boost that's worthless to him) Fixed. Seconding "Socks" for Alessandra, because continuity is good; suggesting "Ventilator" for Gasmask. Canuck-Errant fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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Jul 31, 2016 07:27
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Alien Shooter 2 reference, nice, enjoyed that LP. Angry "Red" Lobster sounds pretty great so nthing that.
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Jul 31, 2016 07:30
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I feel a martini pun for Margottini is in order. Apple? Vesper?
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Jul 31, 2016 07:44
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N-thing Angry "Red" Lobster. Suggesting Alessandra "Bloody" Margottini because that makes her name sound like a drink, and I can't unhear Chris "Can't Kiss" Gasmask.
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Jul 31, 2016 08:03
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Angry Cajun Lobster
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Angry "Cruise Ship" Lobster Lightning hands best hands. Will try to pay attention to get nicknames for the other, less important, characters. Alessandra "Snap Shot" Margottini Chris "Half Off" Gasmask Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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Jul 31, 2016 08:19
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Angry "Crabby" Lobster, Alessandra "Shalashaska" Margottini, Chris "Metro 2035" Gasmask.
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Jul 31, 2016 08:27
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Wow, seeing XCOM 2 without a billion mods on it feels weird.
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Jul 31, 2016 08:34
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Any Angry Lobster hacking references that are not actually references to The Core are wrong. Thus, I vote for Angry "Rat" Lobster, Alessandra "Cocktail" Margottini, and Chris "FartProof" Gasmask.
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Jul 31, 2016 08:35
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Angry "Grenades" Lobster, Alessandra "Missed" Margottini, Chris "Lethal" Gasmask. I like giving nicknames people earn  Angry Lobster has shot many grenades, Alessandra has yet to hit anything with her sniper rifle (ace on the pistol though) and Gasmask kills things real good.Also Enemy Mechs. They saw how effective the Boosh was, now they have Boosh-capable units 
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Talow posted:I'd honestly have to go with Angry "Slab" Lobster because that's an amazing name that was given. Yeah as luck with RNG goes getting this nickname on this soldier is pretty high so voting Slab for Angry Lobster
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Jul 31, 2016 08:52
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I think you mean "Ssseecrettss". Jade Star posted:Almost forgot! Angry Lobster: Thermidor Chris Gasmaks: Catnap Margottini: seconding Misclick This mission is a good example of why , at just about every part of the specialist's skill tree, I think to myself: "I want both of these". We saw the usefulness of reviving today, but the combat-side skills would have been very useful for turning that MEC into a pile of scrap metal. MECs are a an annoying enemy, especially this early in the game. They are dangerous enough that I really want them dead in one turn, and they have a lot of HP and armor so that's not always possible. Also, they are fast, and not caring about cover means they are often able to rush forward and get in a flanking shot. Ouch. It's like all the things that made MECs fun in Enemy Within become unfair bullshit when they are on the aliens' side. MECs mostly use that grenade ability when they can hit more than one soldier with it. I suspect the reason Guava hardly ever sees it is that he doesn't bunch up his soldiers like a noob. (Although, really, that second move should have been safe. There was an element of bullshit in that activation.) Still, one nice thing about MECs is that the corpse they leave behind gives a very useful gremlin upgrade once researched. Although you do need to bring it back to the Avenger. That is one frustrating thing about the "guerilla resistance" thing in XCOM2 - you don't always get to keep those delicious, delicious corpses.
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Jul 31, 2016 08:53
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I need nicknames for Angry Lobster the Grenadier, Chris Gasmask the Ranger, and Alessandra Margottini the Sharpshooter
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For nicknames: Angry Rock Lobster the Grenadier. Because Common guys is 2016, we need a rock lobster reference Chris Gasmask Catnap the Ranger. I agree with zyxophoj's reasoning Alessandra Reiter Margottini the Sharpshooter. Reiters were the first type of pistoleer troop, first seen in the 30 years war.
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Jul 31, 2016 09:42
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Secret Meat Beer or some mixup of that. Alternately, Angry Man Lobster. Radio fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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Jul 31, 2016 10:08
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Jade Star posted:
Shadow Strike applies any time the enemy couldn't see you at the start of your action. So it works out of concealment, but it also works when you're just running around a corner.
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Jul 31, 2016 10:35
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Tendales posted:Shadow Strike applies any time the enemy couldn't see you at the start of your action. So it works out of concealment, but it also works when you're just running around a corner. So.. out of concealment, that would only apply to dash+slash. Or, perhaps, where there is a LoS asymmetry due to step-around. Also, it's possible to come out of concealment 3 times in one mission if there is a "reconceal the entire squad" hack reward. Despite all this, I'm still not a fan of shadowstrike. In a timed mission, I don't have time for this fiddling, and in a non-timed mission, I'd rather keep the ranger concealed and let my snipers do the killing.
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Jul 31, 2016 11:13
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Tendales posted:Shadow Strike applies any time the enemy couldn't see you at the start of your action. So it works out of concealment, but it also works when you're just running around a corner. The description does not lead me to believe you are correct; quote:When concealed, gain +25 bonus Aim and +25 bonus critical hit chance when attacking enemies. It directly references concealment. When Concealed. Concealed is a very visible and special mechanic. The skill says nothing about not being visible to the enemy, and we've seen mimetic skin in the first game so we know it could have been spelled out that way if that was the case.
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While it may have changed, in my experience Suppression always wins over Demolition: the reason for that is that Suppression always applies its effect while also granting me an Overwatch chance against the target if it moves on its turn, so that if I can't kill something like a Stun Lancer I can make it so I have a guaranteed Overwatch shot when it's out of cover and reduce its chance of melee'ing its target. Demolition instead can outright fail by missing and even when it hits it can just damage the cover instead of destroying it, meaning that even when I do hit I still wasted an action and ammo while leaving an enemy behind high cover and with no debuffs on it. One gives me a guaranteed strong debuff and a chance for an additional action while the other uses an action while having two chances of wasting it.
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Jade Star posted:Grenadier - Demolition vs Suppression Demolition has an 88% chance to hit, I believe. So it''ll miss sometimes, but it is good enough that it doesn't matter that it fails occasionally. However, I have never seen the free reaction shot go off with it before. And every time the aliens shot at me they moved into a flanking position and managed to hit. I don't see the decrease to enemy aim or it's worthless if they can still just move closer to get their aim up again. I think the skill might be broken. Demolition is the obvious winner. Angry Red Lobster Chris Katana-sempai notice me Gasmask Alessandra Camper Margottini
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It's interesting to see how just the presence of the RNG can cause such differing opinions because of the different results you can get performing the same action: as I said just above I'll take Suppression every day because the Overwatch shot on movement and decreased aim have had an impact in my playthroughs.
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Jul 31, 2016 12:47
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Bruceski posted:We were at the ADVENT site I can't not vote for this. Also, Chris PERFECT IN EVERY WAY Gasmask and Alessandra OHGODNO Margotinni.
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Jul 31, 2016 12:48
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Jade Star posted:The description does not lead me to believe you are correct; You made me try it. Tendales is correct. (Fortunately for the soldier getting squeezed by this snake, as this would otherwise have 20% chance to miss) Fix your descriptions, Jake.
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Jul 31, 2016 12:52
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Alessandra is so lucky to be alive, I love how she can't hit anything with the rifle but she's lethal with the pistol. Alessandra Snap Shot Margottini. Chris CatnapGasmask. I abstain to vote for my own dude.
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Jul 31, 2016 13:32
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I'm seconding (thirding?) 'Cruise Ship' Lobster.
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Jul 31, 2016 13:52
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Yeah. I think I've gotta also vote for Cruise Ship Lobster.
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Jul 31, 2016 14:29
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Cruise Ship Lobster and Catnap Gas Mask are both fine. Capo Margottini for our resident pistol "specialist." From extensive (read: the last two missions) research, I think ADVENT Mecs use their rockets if they can hit multiple targets and destroy their cover. I saw one run past a soldier they could've easily shot in the back to launch rockets at a pair of troopers hiding behind a park bench. Perhaps if you naturally spread out your units rather than keeping them bunched up you'll rarely see the rockets, and the rockets are commonplace if you keep your formations tight.
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Jul 31, 2016 14:38
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"Catnap" works for Gasmask only if "Don't Tase Me Bro" doesn't fit. Or "Don't Lance Me Bro"
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Jul 31, 2016 14:58
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I'm curious how this Shaken thing works - it sets their Will to zero because they've been critically wounded in the field a couple of times. Does it just heal if they go on another couple of missions, or does the trooper have to come home unscathed?
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Jul 31, 2016 15:02
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They have to get a kill and also not take a hit to recover. It doesn't (and shouldn't) happen often, but if you get a lot of people afflicted with it and they are your only usable troops, it can be devastating. Imagine a Muton War Cry from XCOM EW just panicking everyone on the map at once 
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Jul 31, 2016 15:03
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Flashbangs will knock a Viper out of their grapple, and prevent a whole host of other abilities from other enemies. They do fall off a little bit once you gain the capability to just kill targets outright later in the game, though.
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Jul 31, 2016 15:37
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Did they ever update demolition so that it didn't light whatever cover your grenadier is in on fire? Because that made it pretty much worthless for me.
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Jul 31, 2016 15:46
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Lunethex posted:They have to get a kill and also not take a hit to recover. I'm more thinking psi-attacks, but fair point. I'm not surprised, though. My trooper's been on five missions so far and come home gravely wounded on two of them. 
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Jul 31, 2016 15:53
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Angry "Red" Lobster Chris "Catnap" Gasmask Alessandra "Itchy Trigger" Margottini
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Anonononomous posted:Did they ever update demolition so that it didn't light whatever cover your grenadier is in on fire? Because that made it pretty much worthless for me. That's a different grenadier skill. No idea if they fixed it though.
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Jul 31, 2016 16:43
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haha, I forgot about that. It was setting Jade on fire a couple of times on stream. Yeah they fixed it.
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Jul 31, 2016 17:01
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OK, good. I need to get back into the game now that the DLCs are all out, anyway.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Angry Rock Lobster the Grenadier. Because Common guys is 2016, we need a rock lobster reference You beat me to it. So yeah, my vote is for Rock. Jimmy4400nav posted:Alessandra Reiter Margottini the Sharpshooter. Reiters were the first type of pistoleer troop, first seen in the 30 years war. And just to be a bit nitpicky, the plural for Reiter is Reiter. But we will make a fine Kürassier out of her.
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