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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
| Total: | 1326 votes | ||
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Jul 31, 2016 05:06
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Pilaf and Co made the youth wish right before Piccolo bit the dust, became literal babies
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Jul 31, 2016 05:19
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El Burbo posted:Pilaf and Co made the youth wish right before Piccolo bit the dust, became literal babies Wait, when in the timeline was this? Trunks is there so it's post-Frieza but I don't remember Piccolo dying between Frieza and fusing with Kami.
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Jul 31, 2016 05:22
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ImpAtom posted:Wait, when in the timeline was this? Trunks is there so it's post-Frieza but I don't remember Piccolo dying between Frieza and fusing with Kami. The future timeline, Android Murder time
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Jul 31, 2016 05:24
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ImpAtom posted:Wait, when in the timeline was this? Trunks is there so it's post-Frieza but I don't remember Piccolo dying between Frieza and fusing with Kami. This should be Future Trunks timeline.
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Jul 31, 2016 05:25
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Pureauthor posted:This should be Future Trunks timeline. Ooooh. okay. That makes a lot more sense.
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Jul 31, 2016 05:25
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~Shenron babies, he made their wish come true~ Seeing a series like Dragonball even bother explaining continuity is silly and I love it.
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Jul 31, 2016 05:39
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So that explains future mai and further explains not using dragonballs for androids stuff, amazing
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Jul 31, 2016 05:42
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Dope episode, also Black totally means "mortals" every time he says ningen. 18 spent all her screentime teasing Trunks, it was basically all I could have asked for. Trunks seeing her, Krillin, and Marron as one happy family was great too. 
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Jul 31, 2016 05:57
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omg when will the subs come ouuuutt i really gotta see this episode.
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Jul 31, 2016 06:09
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18 playfully asking Trunks to pay for pain and damages from the death of her alternate self is amazing. Super has the best character interactions.
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Jul 31, 2016 07:34
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Lupus Rufus posted:omg when will the subs come ouuuutt i really gotta see this episode. 
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Jul 31, 2016 08:24
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Majinfoose posted:18 playfully asking Trunks to pay for pain and damages from the death of her alternate self is amazing. Super has the best character interactions. The only bad thing is that it made me even more annoyed that Videl became such a nothing character, 18 is in a similar position that she's a warrior that's now a housewife but she oozes character! Sucks that Videl is just kinda there.
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Jul 31, 2016 15:39
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On who Black is I don't think the cast is thinking 4 dimensionally. Zanmasu is Black but it's not the Zanmasu they've met, it's the one hardened by 30 years of hating mortals and deciding to take things into his own hands.
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Jul 31, 2016 15:59
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Dragon Ball Super is the best show because it's basically the ultimate fanfic. And yeah, I agree that everyone isn't thinking 4th dimensionally at all. This meeting probably created Goku Black.
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Jul 31, 2016 16:03
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I mean logically, the Goku Black of Future Trunks's time and the theoretical Goku Black of the 'normal' timeline are totally separate individuals in the same way that Trunks will never become Future Trunks but started from the same origin point. But Goku is never going to understand time stuff that complex so hopefully Bulma or Trunks or Whis or someone else who's thinking with alternate timelines in mind figures it out. After all, they dealt with this sort of thing before. Killing Cell before he was born in the present, but still having to deal with the time-traveling one.
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Jul 31, 2016 16:08
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So we can assume that in the Future Trunks timeline Zamasu will eventually become Black and go to the seventh universe and take Goku's body after learning he's the greatest warrior off-hand and just become a fight-loving mortal killer, but in our regular Super timeline he already is gonna be different because he's already met Goku, already knows what he's capable of to some degree. This means that all timelines are connected between universes, so the Future Trunks timeline isn't isolated to Universe 7 but all universes are time-connected, so if we assume Black Goku has killed mortals in other universes before reaching Future Trunks' Earth then it stands to reason that stopping him now will make the current timeline better for every single universe. Holey Moley that's a way to escalate from having a planet's population being killed.
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Jul 31, 2016 16:22
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Black seems way more sadistic and fight-happy than Zamasu though.
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Jul 31, 2016 16:27
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Pureauthor posted:Black seems way more sadistic and fight-happy than Zamasu though. Zamasu probably just started getting corrupted as yellow dude mentioned, I bet with enough black tea swirls he'll become a sadistic fight-happy Black Goku in a few more years.
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Jul 31, 2016 16:31
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I did not at all get the impression that the older kaioshin is causing zamasu to be an rear end in a top hat I think zamasu is just an rear end in a top hat like judging from herms' summary zamasu is already on the verge of "gently caress mortals" and his master is trying to talk sense into him Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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Jul 31, 2016 16:36
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I do wonder if the end game is Zamasu and Black are going to use the earring to merge?
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Jul 31, 2016 16:41
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Blockhouse posted:I did not at all get the impression that the older kaioshin is causing zamasu to be an rear end in a top hat Zamasu is very "i hate mortals, they're just idiots" and then his fight with Goku pushes him to add "and they can be dangerously powerful if left unchecked" which is not a positive change I honestly don't know where things go from here though. the plan still seems to be returning with Trunks to the future timeline and defeating Black there, but that leaves present Zamasu to be dealt with too and gives him time to start doing some bad stuff while everyone's preoccupied i wonder if this is going to tie into the multidimensional tournament arc, with Zamasu posessing someone other than Goku and entering it with the goal of killing the strongest warriors from across every universe? would be a pretty dragonbally thing to do
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Jul 31, 2016 16:49
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i'm glad Super makes lower forms useful by just having Goku use whatever form makes him even with his opponent for maximum fightmanning
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Jul 31, 2016 16:50
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Blockhouse posted:I did not at all get the impression that the older kaioshin is causing zamasu to be an rear end in a top hat There's this one bit where the older kaioshin got a super shady look and thought to himself "lets see how much the corruption extends from fighting this mortal" or something like that, meaning he's aware of Zamasu's jerkness, but that combined with everyone going "the ki is similar but not quite the same" and Goku's "he didn't seem That bad, yet?" makes me think Zamasu has some kind of black corruption curse going on and the yellow man is "helping" him be nicer but really just feeding that corruption without Zamasu knowing. Wouldn't be too shocked that defeating Black Goku leads to discovering that the culprit is either the Black ki itself after hopping bodies somehow or that the yellow man stole Zamasu's power thanks to the corruption and then took Goku's corpse for reasons, and whichever ends up being the case will lead to the whole gang going back to Universe 10 to try and stop the problem before it gets too strong.
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Jul 31, 2016 16:57
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Jul 31, 2016 17:02
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I want to feel betrayed by the speedsubs I saw but I feel more like I willingly drove a car to a lake by GPS suggestions. I think i'll stop with the speedsubs and wait 'till the morning after from this point on, things are gonna get real complicated with timelines and bad rushed subs will drastically change stuff.
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Jul 31, 2016 17:04
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Typically you should just wait for Pafu Subs (Batman is doing stuff for them atm because Ken Xyro is moving or something) if you don't want to wait a year for Dragon Team
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Jul 31, 2016 17:07
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It's still gonna be translated as humans even if it's obvious it's referring to all mortals now, huh?
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Jul 31, 2016 17:17
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Aurora posted:Typically you should just wait for Pafu Subs (Batman is doing stuff for them atm because Ken Xyro is moving or something) if you don't want to wait a year for Dragon Team Thanks, didn't know Xyro was out (honestly i dug Batman's typesetting way more, a plain font is the best) Okay the episode is way different than what I saw, no corruption or anything, just Zamasu is a big jerk and will probably keep being a jerk until he's Black.
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Jul 31, 2016 17:41
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Though all instances of Human should be replaced by mortal in pafu.
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Jul 31, 2016 17:44
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Zamasu should take a trip to Namek. That'd chill him out
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Jul 31, 2016 17:45
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 I can't believe this guy was Zamasu the whole time. Majinfoose posted:18 playfully asking Trunks to pay for pain and damages from the death of her alternate self is amazing. Super has the best character interactions. Highlight of the episode for sure.
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Jul 31, 2016 17:48
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That was definitely a great episode. And yeah I don't think the yellow kaioshin is corrupting Zamasu at all. Dude was already being like yo gently caress mortals. I mean end of episode of we see the black tea swirl and dude is like already thinking of Goku in a negative way. So that leaves us with the time rings. So I'm safe to assume that everyone is thinking Zamasu basically used the ring to go to an alternate time to kidnap Goku and force him into a fusion with the ear rings. Cuz at first i"m like maybe he used Goku's dead body but that can't be considering how much time passed and Goku's body would rotting like hell by now.
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Jul 31, 2016 18:28
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So when the gods refer to "humans" like Goku is that just a bad translation? I assume they mean something like "mortals"?
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Jul 31, 2016 18:34
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Yeah, yellow Kaiohshin (Gawosu?) didn't seem evil to me either. So was anybody else expecting him to mention King Enma when he said who's the only one who can judge mortals? 18's scene was great
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Jul 31, 2016 18:36
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Rirse posted:I do wonder if the end game is Zamasu and Black are going to use the earring to merge? By the rules of Time Cop this would make the universe explode.
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Jul 31, 2016 18:41
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Rutibex posted:So when the gods refer to "humans" like Goku is that just a bad translation? I assume they mean something like "mortals"? They use "ningen" for mortals, yeah. IIRC, at any time the series wants to refer to humans in particular, it uses "chikyuujin"/"Earthling".
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Jul 31, 2016 18:43
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Rutibex posted:So when the gods refer to "humans" like Goku is that just a bad translation? I assume they mean something like "mortals"? "Ningen" literally means "human" or "person" and in this context it's pretty obviously means "people, that are not gods" and the easiest way to convey that as a single word in English would be "mortal". But translators seem to be getting hung up on the fact that in a normal conversation between two real people it would never be used to mean "mortal", when they're translating a conversation between space aliens and space gods.
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Jul 31, 2016 18:44
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Blaze Dragon posted:They use "ningen" for mortals, yeah. IIRC, at any time the series wants to refer to humans in particular, it uses "chikyuujin"/"Earthling". Gruckles posted:"Ningen" literally means "human" or "person" and in this context it's pretty obviously means "people, that are not gods" and the easiest way to convey that as a single word in English would be "mortal". But translators seem to be getting hung up on the fact that in a normal conversation between two real people it would never be used to mean "mortal", when they're translating a conversation between space aliens and space gods. Ah ok that makes a lot of sense! I was a little confused by some of Blacks dialog, and obviously referring to Goku as a human. I wondered why Black cared about wiping out life on Earth specifically, when he didn't seem particularly familiar with it.
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Jul 31, 2016 18:47
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I don't think he forced a son goku into fusing with him. He's all like so you're son goku as if it's the first time he ever met one.
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