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PerrineClostermann posted:Man, what the hell. Is the 2500k/2600k so old now? I'm running with a 2600k @ 4.3GHz, and 16GB of (slow) RAM, I'm not getting results like that from my 1070. i'm on a 6600k and i'm not getting results like that either, so...
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PerrineClostermann posted:Man, what the hell. Is the 2500k/2600k so old now? I'm running with a 2600k @ 4.3GHz, and 16GB of (slow) RAM, I'm not getting results like that from my 1070. I linked this in the PC building thread: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k So still a good processor, but could start bottlenecking you a bit if you have a 144Hz monitor and a really good graphics card.
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I'm debating grabbing the Fury Nitro off of Amazon for $350 and being done with it. The 480 stock is apparently tied up in real world minecraft. I'm hoping Amazon dips the price down to $300 as a result of Reddit brigading them with price matches, but who knows? The 4GB of RAM is worrying, but I'm at 2560x1080 so it may not be a huge issue. Would 4GB be that big of an issue at that res?
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Aug 1, 2016 18:07
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Yeah I'm on some lowly 1333mhz which some recent-ish benchmark videos do indicate it matters more than back when this stuff was new. There doesn't seem to be a lot of hard numbers on Sandy nowadays besides a shitload of IT'S FINE LIKE 3% DIFFERENCE google results (I haven't kept up with the parts megathread), been tough to find some clear Phlegmish posted:I linked this in the PC building thread: Fedit yeahhh I was looking for this! And here's a good vid for some more numbers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sx1kLGVAF0 Intel Skylake Core i7 6700K vs 4790K/3770K/2600K 4.4GHz Overclock Gaming Benchmarks
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Aug 1, 2016 18:10
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Obviously the best move is to sell your Sandy bridge to some sucker for $50 less than you paid retail, and upgrade to a 5820K. That way you move forward both in IPC and core count 
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Aug 1, 2016 18:15
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that's not a bad idea but the extra cores are kinda pointless, I'd go with a 6500k personally with some nice fast RAM
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Aug 1, 2016 18:24
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:There's a single slot half height Polaris 11 card .....go _onnnnnnn_.
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Aug 1, 2016 18:24
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I just got an email from Newegg stating that they will have details forthcoming regarding a class action lawsuit pertaining to my purchase of a GTX 960. Part of the 970 lawsuit or did some band of 960 owners get together already wanting some slice of the pie after the 970 refunds started?
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Aug 1, 2016 18:27
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Gonkish posted:I'm debating grabbing the Fury Nitro off of Amazon for $350 and being done with it. The 480 stock is apparently tied up in real world minecraft. I'm hoping Amazon dips the price down to $300 as a result of Reddit brigading them with price matches, but who knows? The 4GB of RAM is worrying, but I'm at 2560x1080 so it may not be a huge issue. Would 4GB be that big of an issue at that res? I am glad I picked up a used r9 390x for $200 instead of continuing the 480 poo poo waiting game. I undervolted my card by -75 mV and now it runs cooler and more efficient. Maybe in the future the rx 480 will outperform the 390x but right now the 390x beats it handily and I only need 6-9 months out of it anyway before Vega. Didnt the R9 Fury pop up on Newegg for $300 again recently? The 4GB of memory scales better at higher resolutions than the RX 480. HBM compresses the amount of vram used. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/24.html At $300 its a better buy imo and the power draw can be offset by undervolting the card.
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My 970 is getting trounced by Project Cars with Vive VR. Everything is at the lowest setting but whenever I join a race with more than 3 cars the framerate drops below 90 and I get that terrible stuttering. I'm convinced that I'll have to replace it with a 1080 to actually enjoy higher settings and smooth frame rates. Every other game runs fine, but then again every other VR game looks like rear end.
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Aug 1, 2016 18:34
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owl_pellet posted:I just got an email from Newegg stating that they will have details forthcoming regarding a class action lawsuit pertaining to my purchase of a GTX 960. Part of the 970 lawsuit or did some band of 960 owners get together already wanting some slice of the pie after the 970 refunds started? I got one about the 980, and I didn't even buy a 980.
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Subjunctive posted:I got one about the 980, and I didn't even buy a 980. Yeah I got one about a 980 too, that wasn't even part of the lawsuit  Well, not that'd I'd mind. Combining 970's and 980's I have quite a few refunds heading my way. I had assumed it was limited to 1 per person but the wording suggests otherwise.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Well I haven't done it myself, but I'm planning for a 1070 myself so I ran across that Overwatch benchmark. It was actually 135 min / 142 avg on Ultra, so you could probably lock in 144 with some tweaking or overclocking? They were using a 6600K w/ DDR4-3000 as well. PerrineClostermann posted:Man, what the hell. Is the 2500k/2600k so old now? I'm running with a 2600k @ 4.3GHz, and 16GB of (slow) RAM, I'm not getting results like that from my 1070. To be honest I think they got these "benchmark" results in the practice grounds or something - performance in Overwatch varies pretty significantly based on the map you're in. I have a 6600k / GTX 1080 @ 1440p and while it runs at the benchmarked 170+ fps in certain areas, I dropped into 130s on maps like Nepal. Preventing dips below 144 requires tweaking some stuff from default Ultra settings. The one thing to make sure of is that you're on 1x scaling and not 1.25x or something, that setting is extremely pointless and destroys your performance
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Fast sync is loving incredible. CharlieFoxtrot posted:Well I haven't done it myself, but I'm planning for a 1070 myself so I ran across that Overwatch benchmark. It was actually 135 min / 142 avg on Ultra, so you could probably lock in 144 with some tweaking or overclocking?
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PaulC posted:To be honest I think they got these "benchmark" results in the practice grounds or something - performance in Overwatch varies pretty significantly based on the map you're in. I'm comparing to my framerate testing in the practice grounds 
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teh_Broseph posted:Yeah I'm on some lowly 1333mhz which some recent-ish benchmark videos do indicate it matters more than back when this stuff was new. There doesn't seem to be a lot of hard numbers on Sandy nowadays besides a shitload of IT'S FINE LIKE 3% DIFFERENCE google results (I haven't kept up with the parts megathread), been tough to find some clear Digital Foundry have a ton of useful videos. They always deliver. Your RAM speed is no doubt holding you back, too.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:.....go _onnnnnnn_.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:There's a single slot half height Polaris 11 card I bet it's full Polaris 11 at least, vs the cut-down RX 460. I was really disappointed to see the shader count on the 460.
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japtor posted:"Radeon Pro", it and the 5100 and 7100 was announced with the SSG one, but I haven't seen anything about pricing other than $10k for the SSG and "under $1000" for the 7100. I know, I'm just teasing AS, because it's actually right up my alley. I've got a few lower-spec CAD rigs at the office that could use inexpensive video card upgrades to keep them trotting along instead of chugging.
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^^^^^ heh you're one of the people that originally posted about the cards right?Twerk from Home posted:I bet it's full Polaris 11 at least, vs the cut-down RX 460. I was really disappointed to see the shader count on the 460.
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:Yeah I got one about a 980 too, that wasn't even part of the lawsuit Actually a few different cards got tacked on due to the similarity in the cases. http://blog.newegg.com/nvidia-gtx-970-class-action-lawsuit/
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Oddly enough, it seems that every time a 480 comes in stock it's sold out 8 minutes afterwards. I wonder if that's just a peculiarity of how nowinstock tracks stuff, or how frequently the various retailers update stock or whatever.
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ijyt posted:Actually a few different cards got tacked on due to the similarity in the cases. 404'd.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:404'd. poo poo. Page basically had this and the cards included: quote:Class action lawsuits are funny proceedings–not funny, haha, but funny, odd. This is certainly the case with the class-action lawsuit brought against NVIDIA. The settlement announcement came out on July 29 and, hold the phone, the list includes a lot more products than GTX 970.
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RX 480's are in stock at newegg right now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150772
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axeil posted:RX 480's are in stock at newegg right now. $270 for a Reference 480 now? Christ.
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I'm just waiting for that shorty EVGA Superclocked 1060 to come back in stock. Pls hurry, newegg 
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Twerk from Home posted:$270 for a Reference 480 now? Christ. Yeah. It does come factory over clocked but I'm so sick of waiting for my Amazon Sapphire Nitro order to move along that I said screw it and ordered it.I'm coming from an R9 380 2 GB so I should see good performance gains. I don't really over clock so it'll be fine. Right? 
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New Steam Hardware Survey results: I remember the 200-series AMD cards were rated higher last time. Also, the 10x0s aren't on the list at all yet.
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Twerk from Home posted:$270 for a Reference 480 now? Christ. Supply and demand.
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The best is that powercolor one for $318 MSRP. $12 away from the 970 MSRP and nearly probably all the performance
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BIG HEADLINE posted:New Steam Hardware Survey results: TIL AMD released 8800 series cards
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Hynix HBM2 is go: 4GB stacks to be available Q3. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10527/sk-hynix-adds-hbm2-4-gb-memory-q3 Please remember that HBM2 is also physically larger than HBM1 areal-wise, so no, last gen's Fury would not be able to come back with a drop-in replacement of 16 GB of HBM2. Maybe 8 GB at the most, if you shifted the 300-series silicon off to the side and used the freed-up space to put down two stacks of HBM2. Also remember that Nvidia used Samsung-produced HBM2 for their products, in the same capacity.
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Ninkobei posted:TIL AMD released 8800 series cards Laptop and OEM discrete GPUs. e: And I think some of the APUs had 8000 series chips.
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As I promised earlier, this is about 5 minutes of Overwatch at 1440p at max graphics settings but resolution scaling at 100% GTX 1070 @ 1987 mhz and 9600 mhz memory 6600k at 4.6 ghz Edit: DDR4 at 2400 mhz   Average is 120 fps Very good 1% and 0.1% time I must say This is online on the egypt map edit: removed my 120fps framecap (woops) but it turned out to be the same basic numbers. This game was a little more intense 
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cat doter posted:what's the clock speed on the RAM too? in CPU restricted scenarios memory bandwidth becomes important and can restrict your framerates even further Did you do any before/after numbers with CPU speed the same? I'm trying to get as much life out of my 3570k system as possible and was thinking of upgrading my DDR31600 stuff to 2400. CPU may not be able to handle that high but it means I can tighten timings at 2133. I tried doing some searching for benchmarks but the most recent ones I found were from November 2014 so almost two years ago, but they seem to indicate not much difference: http://techbuyersguru.com/does-ram-speed-matter-ddr3-1600-vs-1866-2133-and-2400-games?page=2 Have things changed with newer games / the newer cards?
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Sapphire RX480 Nitro OC+ just came in stock on newegg. I got one! Grab it quick: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ID=6202798&SID= EDIT: Holy poo poo, nevermind, it's ALREADY out of stock. I guess I got lucky. Gonkish fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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At the $280 price point, why not just get a 1060? Unless you have a freesync monitor. I'd probably consider the 4GB Sapphire Nitro since it's only a smidge above the MSRP.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:New Steam Hardware Survey results: The 1080/1070 and the RX480 are on the list if you use the DX12-only survey. Signs are pointing the former is massively outselling the latter so far. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/directx/ AMD's predicament over past few years in GPUs can be summed up as their number #1 seller of all HD7950/7970 variants sold till date since Dec 2011 are barely outpacing a $650 MSRP 980 Ti. Phlegmish posted:I linked this in the PC building thread: It's pretty mindblowing how a 3.3GHz Skylake with DDR4-2666 is able to beat a 4.6GHz 2500K DDR3-1600 by 20% in Witcher 3. That's like a 67% IPC advantage for Skylake at ~1/3 the CPU power consumption for somewhere like ~300% perf/Watt, but no, there's hasn't been any real progress in CPUs for 5 years according to 2500K diehards because laptops and servers don't exist. Palladium fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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I guess I'm a 2500k "diehard" then because I'm still running one. Those (not insignificant) gains come at the cost of a new motherboard, new RAM, new CPU but the gap can be mostly closed by overclocking a graphics card or spending more on a faster card. Not to mention the effort of gutting a case, buying and re-installing OS (because your key isn't good anymore after you change out those components!) means its far less likely to happen when people want to  rather than just swap something out of a PCI-E slot.My upgrading is an inevitablity - all the literature and bechmarks out there like you just posted confirming that game engines are indeed benefiting from increased system memory bandwidth is encouraging. In particular, I'm waiting for higher DDR4 speeds to be natively supported and the price/capacity of PCI-E storage to go down. E: Hmm now that I've thought about it, every time I've done a full system upgrade, it was going to a new type of RAM (PC-133 -> DDR -> DDR2 -> DDR3) and only after the prices for them had gotten uncrazy. Seamonster fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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