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1337kutkufan6969 posted:I hope the arts stick around. Without them, there wouldn't have been anything at all new. I think adept could get a bit of a nerf (the dodge itself is PLENTY without adding reloads) but I don't think the attack moves are so powerful that they need to go. Oh yeah, I like styles and all, I'm just not sure if they're going to keep them. Given where Generations is I'm not sure how much of this is one-off and how many changes and improvements will be kept going forward. I'm hoping most of them, though.
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Kashuno posted:Idk about the styles. I mean aerial trivializes so many thing.
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I don't think styles are the issue, it's that a lot of the older monsters have never, ever had their AIs updated, so they have no clue how to deal with new mechanics. Giving the old bird wyverns an upward swipe attack, for instance, would make aerial a lot less perfectly safe without removing an entire player style.
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Aug 1, 2016 18:44
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Also, you sort of need Aerial if you want mounting/IG to be a thing going forward. You can design arenas, but you limit your design space a ton if you have one weapon that can mount on command while everything else is up to the whims of monster AI wandering near convenient jutting rock #9832.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I don't think styles are the issue, it's that a lot of the older monsters have never, ever had their AIs updated, so they have no clue how to deal with new mechanics. Giving the old bird wyverns an upward swipe attack, for instance, would make aerial a lot less perfectly safe without removing an entire player style. This is definitely true. Any monster back in gen from older generations so didn't already have some sort of vertical attack is a joke because they weren't given a move for when the hunter is pretty much on their head. The i-frames on the jump make it pretty simple to dodge a lot of the monsters who don't have the size/kit to deal with someone high up
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Aug 1, 2016 18:50
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Like I said, I'm just biased towards slow-moving weapons I guess. I'm just engaging in a little wishful thinking about perfect-guarding a charging monoblos and then following up with a big meaty blast dash. I have Gunlance on the brain I suppose - just really like the idea of being slow and immovable, but then exploding in a sudden burst of speed.
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which is going to do more damage just in general http://mhgen.kiranico.com/heavybowgun/cirrus-blaster Mountanous Roar pierce 1/2, assuming every pierce hits + pierce up or http://mhgen.kiranico.com/bow/bow-of-hope-valor Bow of Light and Courage + Load up Part of me wants to say the bow but I'm not sure e: did the math, it's the bow e: I'm also mad because if my fastcharge5 loadup3 no slot charm had a single slot I could get: Load up, Focus, Normal Up, Special Up all in one. I have to settle for peak performance instead of special up which kinda sucks. mbt fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Aug 1, 2016 19:08
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I don't know what I expected out of Lavasioth, but it wasn't a lava plesioth. I know, I know..
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I never want Adept to leave.
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Mortimer posted:which is going to do more damage just in general What armor set are you running that gets you all those skills at once? I've realized as of this weekend that I love Bow but my set knowledge is lacking. All I've got right now is Volvidon S (gives Focus and Bio Master), with decorations for Normal Up and one to get out of Stam Recov Down.
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Also regarding styles Adept on Bow is basically loving cheating but I don't care because it's fun as heck
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Ciaphas posted:What armor set are you running that gets you all those skills at once? I've realized as of this weekend that I love Bow but my set knowledge is lacking. All I've got right now is Volvidon S (gives Focus and Bio Master), with decorations for Normal Up and one to get out of Stam Recov Down. helm: Akantor R The rest: A combo of Arc R/S Charm: Fast charge 5 / load up 3 Akantor R Helm gives Load up +8 so if you can get 2 anywhere else you're good. Alternatively the barrage earring gives Load Up +10 but doesn't have a socket and doesn't give as much armor. Arc R/S are from Shagaru Magala, gives you Peak Performance and Normal Up If you have a fast charge 5, 3 socket you can also run akantor helm because Load up +2 needs a 3 socket. It's a really good skill  Special Up would be from Uragaan R You can get focus, normal up, and load up without a godly charm and be fine. Getting Peak Performance as well needs a good charm, Special Up requires an insane charm.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I don't think styles are the issue, it's that a lot of the older monsters have never, ever had their AIs updated, so they have no clue how to deal with new mechanics. Giving the old bird wyverns an upward swipe attack, for instance, would make aerial a lot less perfectly safe without removing an entire player style. The hitbox for the raths extends about 600 feet above them so if they decide to instant charge while you're jumping off them it doesn't matter if you're aerial or not. You're still eating poo poo even if no part of your hunter is touching the monster.
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So i have a pierce up +5 with 3 slots. What armor sets am i looking for?
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scaterry posted:So i have a pierce up +5 with 3 slots. What armor sets am i looking for? HBG? Silver rath with a hayabusa feather and Akantor R legs e: that's for weakness exploit + crit up 2 + pierce up + crit boost, which is what I run and also it looks pretty good there's a clownsuit that's slightly better that has crit up 2, pierce up, crit boost, and repeat offender mbt fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Aug 1, 2016 21:31
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How important is it to learn all the different attack combos for a weapon? For example, SnS? I'm a button masher by nature and I can never remember all the combos I'm supposed to do, especially in the heat of battle 
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There's a reason that R series quest line is a pain in the rear end. Lotta good skill sets locked behind that if you are willing to put in the time to get Athena's simulator running or whatever.Pollyanna posted:How important is it to learn all the different attack combos for a weapon? For example, SnS? I'm a button masher by nature and I can never remember all the combos I'm supposed to do, especially in the heat of battle
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If you aren't landing perfect combos for flashy cool youtube clips and leaving everyone in your online lobbies stunned in your wake why the gently caress are you even playing this game tbh
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Aug 1, 2016 21:41
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I wish you could stun teammates if you tripped them enough I'd play that
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Pollyanna posted:How important is it to learn all the different attack combos for a weapon? For example, SnS? I'm a button masher by nature and I can never remember all the combos I'm supposed to do, especially in the heat of battle Most weapons have a bread-and-butter infinite combo that you can spam. I don't know what it is for SnS but I know one exists.
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About when should I try tackling Dreadqueen Rathian by myself (or at all really)? I just got into HR in the hub and 5* in village, and have some level 4 Rathian gear already. I mostly just want the armor because the battle princess gear looks really cool.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Most weapons have a bread-and-butter infinite combo that you can spam. I don't know what it is for SnS but I know one exists. (R+X or X+A) X X X, A A A repeat if you're in striker, (R+X or X+A) X X X back+A X X X back+A repeat as adept, and hosed if I know for the other two.
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If I learn a new, weapon-specific hunter art, is there a way to see what it was I just learned if I don't have that weapon equipped?
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CommunityEdition posted:If I learn a new, weapon-specific hunter art, is there a way to see what it was I just learned if I don't have that weapon equipped? hit x to see All instead of equipable, and then just look for the New marker
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Tyty posted:About when should I try tackling Dreadqueen Rathian by myself (or at all really)? I just got into HR in the hub and 5* in village, and have some level 4 Rathian gear already. Why would you do it solo Do it whenever you can survive a regular rathian for 1-3 or HR rathian 4+ attack and not instantly die
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On a tangent from the combo talk, I've been having weird experiences with SnS users in this game: They keep sending me flying. I've been knocked into the air more times by them than any other weapon users when doing MP. Their move that sends people flying is the shield bash, right? I'm getting knocked around by them even when I'm on the tail or some other place where impact damage is not ideal (and conversely a glaive user flipping out is really good), so I'm not sure why it keeps happening, other than people not knowing that they have a combo without the bash. And/or being really rude; several times it's happened I was the first person on a part, and then the SnS person arrives a few seconds later and knocks me away partway through their combo. It's odd because I didn't really have this problem in 4U, though I guess I saw fewer SnS players then so maybe that's part of it. Oils and stuff might have more people using the weapon now.
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What is the current hotness for end game bow armor sets? I'm thinking of switching once I unlock my HR, not sure what people usually pair with the Barrage Earring.
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RossCo posted:What is the current hotness for end game bow armor sets? I'm thinking of switching once I unlock my HR, not sure what people usually pair with the Barrage Earring. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3783088&perpage=40&pagenumber=76#post462733567 my post on the same page
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Mortimer posted:Why would you do it solo I mostly don't want to try and convince the people I play with to, even if they're much more experienced with monster hunter than I am, especially if it's for Fashion Hunter reasons. I can take down a LR Rathian solo but it takes a while and she still hurts, so I'll wait. Thanks.
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 Sakura runs are the best thing for Charms and possibly Zenny since Juju Melding in MH4U.
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Goddammit Nibelsnarf eat the bomb 
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BipolarAurora posted:
Elucidate
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Mortimer posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3783088&perpage=40&pagenumber=76#post462733567 Damnit, sorry. No idea how I missed that!
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Mortimer posted:I don't like adept and I hope they take it out next game As an HBG user, at end game the adept dodge becomes a something you want to avoid maybe 50% of the time due to its long recovery. You really have to start determining whether you really want to follow up your dodge with an adept sprint/reload rather than just diving into every attack. Anything like Zinogre's stomps or Tetsucabra's triple charge will really punish you if you adept dodge into them. I guess that's probably not the case with the bow since you can move with it drawn or simply not charge if you need to get out of the way. But I hear adept bow is one of the most OP combos in the game, so it will probably get nerfed if they keep styles in the next game. Rascyc posted:There's a reason that R series quest line is a pain in the rear end. Lotta good skill sets locked behind that if you are willing to put in the time to get Athena's simulator running or whatever. The worst part about that quest is that hyper parts are only found in quest rewards so it gives the same amount of them as the quest to kill 1 hyper tetsucabra. Also village reqs working like urgents is dumb as hell. Another set of quests I have to solo, except some of them are so high end I'm probably not even capable of doing that. The Moon Monster fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Yeah, I play adept LBG and HBG, and trying to adept dodge into several monsters (BLANGONGA ) is a great way to dodge one attack, then cry as it turns right around and smacks you during the recovery.
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Calaveron posted:Elucidate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8hgQuEi7Oo
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Tyty posted:About when should I try tackling Dreadqueen Rathian by myself (or at all really)? I just got into HR in the hub and 5* in village, and have some level 4 Rathian gear already.
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Tyty posted:I mostly don't want to try and convince the people I play with to, even if they're much more experienced with monster hunter than I am, especially if it's for Fashion Hunter reasons. well, the sets very good anyways, if you want a reason other than fashion
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I got yelled at today by a longsword user. Apparently him running up and standing right in front of me while I was shelling was interrupting his combo. Whoopsie!
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So as the only person who actually likes Khezu and wants to make his equipment, it's a bit annoying that nearly all his stuff requires parts from other monsters to create or upgrade past level 1. I couldn't create his armor set or his greatsword when I first fought him because it required Gypceros parts, and unless you're looking it up on kiranico and know that he'll appear in two completely unrelated gathering quests, the first quest that displays Gypceros is unlocked through the logical progression of taking a gathering quest and getting plopped next to a Like for example once I made the Khezu GS at the start of 3* it only had 90 attack and 22 thunder, so I wanted to upgrade it so it'd be useful. But it requires Astalos materials, a monster I couldn't fight until recently in 5*. So I couldn't actually upgrade my Khezu GS to level 2 until I went up two quest ranks, only to find out that I could just make the Astalos GS instead which has 20 higher attack, +15% affinity, and better sharpness in exchange for losing one of the two slots the Khezu GS has. Why prevent me from upgrading the Khezu GS until I can make another one that's better in every possible way?
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