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Alan_Shore posted:I'm confused why MiniDisc chat isn't bigger. All the forums are dead, no one cares. But they're so cool! Much cooler that cassettes. Where's the MD love? I've been falling asleep to my mixtape at night, it's nice. Too new to have retro/faux retro nostalgia over, too old to actually be useful, and too obscure even in its day for people to have much experience with or find very many prerecorded albums by western pop artists. Plus, it isn't particularly novel to use either. It's basically a slightly more clunky MP3 player in that regard, where you can just dump songs onto it and listen to it however you please. With a cassette, there's a novelty in having to manually record stuff onto it, actually assembling a real playlist and having to wait for the songs to record and hope nothing screwed up. No instant gratification in playing, either. No track skip or random or even song titles (ignoring the fancy machines), so listening to a single song is a balancing act between the fast forward and rewind buttons to get to the beginning.
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There were a few noble efforts from retailers bundling Dreamcats with DVD players for just a bit less than a PS2 but it was too little too late since it was already obvious PS2 was going to have the games. And I guess the appeal of a Sutsuma DVD player isn't exactly the same as a Sony DVD player anyway.
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ishikabibble posted:Too new to have retro/faux retro nostalgia over, too old to actually be useful, and too obscure even in its day for people to have much experience with or find very many prerecorded albums by western pop artists. Plus, it isn't particularly novel to use either. It's basically a slightly more clunky MP3 player in that regard, where you can just dump songs onto it and listen to it however you please. With a cassette, there's a novelty in having to manually record stuff onto it, actually assembling a real playlist and having to wait for the songs to record and hope nothing screwed up. No instant gratification in playing, either. No track skip or random or even song titles (ignoring the fancy machines), so listening to a single song is a balancing act between the fast forward and rewind buttons to get to the beginning. I had to manually record my Minidics.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:This wasn't really from the laser dying. The mechanism that held the laser would drop. Flipping the system upsidedown put it back in its original place. Oh OK. Still kinda funny though. It's like this guy I know whose NES doesn't work consistently because of the bent pins problem so he just jams another cartridge into the space above the one you're playing and that works somehow.
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Mak0rz posted:Oh OK. Still kinda funny though. that will eventually damage the connector beyond repair. IIRC the original Game Genie did the same thing to the pins eventually as well.
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I was thinking about my occasional cable modem issues: access the modem web interface, read over power and SNR levels, check the cryptic log entries, etc... 20 years ago: "GOODBYE." That was it. Maybe pick up the phone line and see if it's static-y or whatever. I'm honestly not sure which is better. Sometimes I wish there was just some simple little portable 9600bps terminal with just text and no ads, no plugins, no malware, no cookies. Just something simple and bulletproof for when you just want to e-chill. Does that make sense or have I lost my mind? Three-Phase has a new favorite as of 01:47 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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Three-Phase posted:I was thinking about my occasional cable modem issues: access the modem web interface, read over power and SNR levels, check the cryptic log entries, etc... Even if it was 9600 baud and there were no images or Javascript there would still be obnxous ads that took longer to load than the actual content. I do really miss having a regular IRC channel to hang out in though.
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It wouldn't load the ads. The text file itself would download quickly and you could have whatever logic to ignore the ads and images and whatever other media.
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Cojawfee posted:It wouldn't load the ads. The text file itself would download quickly and you could have whatever logic to ignore the ads and images and whatever other media. Oh yeah, I could write a sed script or something. This is starting to sound awesome. I probably shouldn't have a fourth glass of scotch.
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drunk asian neighbor posted:It's strange to be hearing that so many people had issues with burning Dreamcast games; back in high school the generally accepted theory among my group of friends was that the DC flopped because of how easy it was to burn their games. I can't remember ever having a bad burn on a Dreamcast game, and I don't remember there being a particularly large number of hoops to jump through to get them working properly. yeah same. the only time i recall ever having an issue was when i accidentally got a PAL version of a game and even then the disc would read. i think i got my dreamcast shortly after it came out if not on 9.9.99. maybe they changed something in later models.
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There used to be guys on eBay who would sell burned Dreamcast discs for $1.00/each. You would pay $20 and you'd get to choose whatever 20 games you wanted. I got the unreleased version of Half-Life with the 5 FPS intro
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that reminds me back when they could have NCAA football videogames still (the EA sports ones), they weren't able to put the player names in for what should now be obvious reasons. but they would let you enter the names yourself. i remember one time my friends and i pooled money to buy a memory card on ebay where somebody had entered every single name for whichever season we were playing at the time. it was like $25 i think. we figured that was a good deal because it would take for fuckin ever. it was legit too. we didn't find any errors. thinking back though maybe they just used some sort of software to assist with entering the names.
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They could just do it once and use something to copy to memory cards. There were devices for the N64, I wouldn't doubt there were others for all the consoles.
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Cojawfee posted:They could just do it once and use something to copy to memory cards. There were devices for the N64, I wouldn't doubt there were others for all the consoles. the Dexdrive? They had it for the PS1 too and it was great, I remember using a Final Fantasy Tactics save editor to patch in all the boss characters into my party and it broke the game in half :3
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Cojawfee posted:They could just do it once and use something to copy to memory cards. There were devices for the N64, I wouldn't doubt there were others for all the consoles. well yeah, that's what we did with it. but doing it that first time would take ages! i guess i didnt consider that it might have been a group of people dividing and conquering then getting paid as gently caress on ebay ... now-a-days you could mechanical turk that poo poo probably but it would cost more than $25. hell you wouldnt even need HIT. with a good database that had player numbers you could just automate it with the power of SOFT WARE
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Three-Phase posted:I was thinking about my occasional cable modem issues: access the modem web interface, read over power and SNR levels, check the cryptic log entries, etc... You haven't lost your mind, I've wanted something similar. It needs a community, though, to actually make things suitable for such a medium.
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Oh talking about console-pc accessories? I bought a DualShock 2 USB adapter for like $6 from Amazon in 2005 or so. It was made of the cheapest loving plastic you can imagine and it only took a year or so for one of the connectors to come loose (still worked fine for years after that, just needed the cable jiggled now and then). No drivers or anything: you just plugged it in and it loving worked. Hell if it wasn't the best six bucks I've ever spent. I bought a N64 adapter a few years ago but never tried it. It's still in its packaging. Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 06:05 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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ishikabibble posted:Too new to have retro/faux retro nostalgia over, too old to actually be useful, and too obscure even in its day for people to have much experience with or find very many prerecorded albums by western pop artists. Plus, it isn't particularly novel to use either. It's basically a slightly more clunky MP3 player in that regard, where you can just dump songs onto it and listen to it however you please. With a cassette, there's a novelty in having to manually record stuff onto it, actually assembling a real playlist and having to wait for the songs to record and hope nothing screwed up. No instant gratification in playing, either. No track skip or random or even song titles (ignoring the fancy machines), so listening to a single song is a balancing act between the fast forward and rewind buttons to get to the beginning. Well, with MiniDisc you do have to manually record in real time, that's what I have to do with my laptop and optical cable. Sony players could use SoundStage, which by all accounts is godawful software that will write MP3s to your MiniDisc like a data drive. Sony did release the Hi-MD, which were actually a GB instead of 64Mb, which is much better than a CD, but it was too little, too late. You could also record sound onto them, I remember using MiniDiscs to record interviews and stuff in college. Just wrong place, wrong time like you say. Still, they do have advantages over CDs, like being impossible to scratch and being able to re-record over. It's a shame the Hi-MDs came so late, a GB of storage was a crazy amount back then. They're just so, like, futuristic, like some Bladerunner dystopian 80s tech. That's probably why they were so big in Japan.
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Japan actually, like, had major releases for the thing. By the time it happened here, the beginnings of Napster and CD burning and MP3s ensured it would be niche. Then again, poo poo like those little HIT CLIPZ toys likely made the platform look like an expensive toy in its own right. Oddly enough, one of my classmates had a MD player in high school, about Junior/Senior year. She wasn't all that much a techie either. Definitely more convenient than carrying around a Skippy CD player and the binder full o music.
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drunk asian neighbor posted:Which of you poor saps still has an HD-DVD player I have the Xbox 360 HD-DVD Drive. Used it once watching the bundled King Kong movie. Well I fell asleep watching it, and have never used it since (got it for maybe $30 from a pawn shop complete in box). My Optical Drive in my main PC is an LG Bluray/HD-DVD/DVD/CDR Burner - got it free from a junked PC a mate gave me. That drive is solid as gently caress. EDIT: On the Dreamcast - maybe it's a region thing but I could never get ISOs to work properly without patching the ISO with a bootloader thing called Utopia. I did find out I could do a swap disc from a Utopia CD-R and use all the broken non-modded CD-Rs though - so not all was lost. With Xbox 360 modding I got in early-ish and had to buy a very specific PCI to SATA card to flash firmware or something - I cannot remember as I just bought the card, handed over Xbox and got it modded by a sketchy as gently caress old dude that was a customer of mine. He once gave me a Wii console if I drove him out to the forest so he could pick mushrooms. Humphreys has a new favorite as of 08:51 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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I've always loved minidisc, the format / media just seems so 80s cyberpunk to me. Would love to get a hi-MD player and one of those big player/recorder decks, that'd look nice with my LD/betamax player. I just took a look at prices on ebay and holy living gently caress nevermind, going to admire this from afar then
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Code Jockey posted:I've always loved minidisc, the format / media just seems so 80s cyberpunk to me. Would love to get a hi-MD player and one of those big player/recorder decks, that'd look nice with my LD/betamax player. Many pages back I did a post on Mini-Disc and wanting one of those data drives for them so badly in the early days. Naturally I had a half baked idea that I could burn PSP ISOs onto Minidisc and put them into UMD shells or something. The early 2000s are a bit foggy when it comes to my memory.
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Code Jockey posted:I've always loved minidisc, the format / media just seems so 80s cyberpunk to me. Would love to get a hi-MD player and one of those big player/recorder decks, that'd look nice with my LD/betamax player. Yeah, exactly! I came this close to buying a MD player for my car. Then I realised I didn't have a car. The prices are insane! It's ridiculous. No one wants them! Just hand it over already.
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Three-Phase posted:I was thinking about my occasional cable modem issues: access the modem web interface, read over power and SNR levels, check the cryptic log entries, etc... SSH-accessible BBS with message areas and  areas? There are still some out there.Sometimes I work places where I spend all my time in SSH sessions and it seems like I may as well have an actual VT100 terminal instead of just an emulator on Windows. I assume VT100s have less ways of crashing than Windows.
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drunk asian neighbor posted:Which of you poor saps still has an HD-DVD player I do! I got it for just over a tenner with like a dozen movies. It's the one that plugs into the Xbox 360, and it's actually fairly handy to have as a second drive to have a DVD/CD in without having to get up and swap out whatever video game disc is in the main console. I mean, it's obviously dead and stupid but since I paid less than the cost of a blu-ray for it I don't really care.
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Humphreys posted:
The early DC dumps needed that boot disc to start. Later, dumper and patchers found out how to make a bootable disc image that could be burnt with Disc juggler.
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 Another classic Borland contribution to Vaporwave.
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axolotl farmer posted:The early DC dumps needed that boot disc to start. Later, dumper and patchers found out how to make a bootable disc image that could be burnt with Disc juggler. Ah, that would probably line up with the time I got out of the DC stuff.
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Buttcoin purse posted:
pretty sure this is how most of the people i work with think programming is
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Didn't MiniDisc have a second life as a recording medium for radio reporters? Or was that some other tech?
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thathonkey posted:pretty sure this is how most of the people i work with think programming is That's pretty much the exact same promise that Business Intelligence software has been making for the last 25 years... and it's never that simple.
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thathonkey posted:i think i got my dreamcast shortly after it came out if not on 9.9.99. maybe they changed something in later models. Later revisions of the Dreamcast (from October 2000 onwards) removed Mil-CD support to try and stem the bleeding, but people found workarounds for that, too.
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Squashy Nipples posted:That's pretty much the exact same promise that Business Intelligence software has been making for the last 25 years... and it's never that simple. Should I have said vaporware?  It did actually exist but not for long, I think. What software is in that space now? I was thinking MS Access did some of the same stuff but I don't recall it supporting point-and-click to avoid writing IF statements to fill in conditional fields.
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The Kins posted:They did. As I understand it, the Dreamcast had a mode for a super-obscure (only eight Japan-only albums had it) disc format Sega created called Mil-CD, which allowed music CDs to have an additional "Dreamcast Mode" for multimedia extras... which wasn't subject to the same copy-protection scrutiny as normal GD-ROMs. Hackers figured out how to make Mil-CDs that booted into GD-ROM mode, and it was off to the races. This is fascinating. What was the later work-around? Must be a pain in the rear end when searching for Dreamcast ISOs. Are there different ones depending on your Dreamcast version? Squashy Nipples posted:Didn't MiniDisc have a second life as a recording medium for radio reporters? Or was that some other tech? MiniDisc was supposedly very popular for recording live music at venues.
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Squashy Nipples posted:That's pretty much the exact same promise that Business Intelligence software has been making for the last 25 years... and it's never that simple. I mean, I have yet to connect a single pyramid to a translucent sphere in my entire career
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:This is fascinating. What was the later work-around? I don't know what the workaround was (and thanks for the info Kins, never heard about the MilCD stuff), but whatever it was it seems to have been backwards compatible since I remember dreamcast ISOs being really easy to find, and usually there was only one release. Super Nintendo ROMs, on the other hand...forget about if you want the US, EU or JP release, do you want the US1.0, 1.1, or 1.2 release?
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Alan_Shore posted:Sony players could use SoundStage, which by all accounts is godawful software that will write MP3s to your MiniDisc like a data drive. It was SonicStage and it was and is terrible. Sony took down the specific version that worked with the players I have too, so I had to search all over the internet just to get version 4.0.2 or whatever it was so I could, you know, use the player I had. Also it didn't support MP3. It would convert it to ATRAC and then write it (At least on the models I have, can't speak for others). So if you copied it from a CD you were fine, but copying MP3s meant another conversion.
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Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (Unk) (m3) [T+Dut100] (V1.1) [b2] [t] [o] [!].smc
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