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greatn posted:I don't know, they say write what you know
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Race Realists posted:LITMUS TEST!!! Apparently neither could whoever posted it since it's gone now.
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Aug 2, 2016 13:27
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Was it a legitimate review? The embargo only lifts at noon EST today.
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Aug 2, 2016 13:38
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Lurdiak posted:Putting rape in a teen titans adaptation would just be faithful to the comic's history. You're all about the rape arn't you
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Aug 2, 2016 14:25
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:You're all about the rape arn't you You must have me confused with Marv Wolfman.
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Aug 2, 2016 14:47
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Based on what I'm seeing from reviews Suicide Squad seems honestly pretty dull, which is not what I would have predicted. Too edgy, sure, but dull? Ouch.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:07
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So far it looks like the nerdy sites like it and nobody else does. Edit: Quite a few note that PG-13 hurts it. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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Aug 2, 2016 17:16
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The nerdy sites I've seen are tearing it to shreds, and everything else I'm seeing is just calling it boring. I wonder what the DCCU is gonna look like after all this.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:27
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:I wonder what the DCCU is gonna look like after all this. Wonder Woman and Justice League are already in the pipe, full steam ahead. Suicide Squad flopping won't change a thing imo.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:30
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Yeah but at some point that's not enough. Despite what some people here think of Man of Steel it kinda seems like DC is 0 for 3 in terms of big crowd-pleasers. This was supposed to be it. At what point do things have to change before they start damaging the brand? I'm not saying Wonder Woman will be bad, though Snyder's name attached in any way does not give me hope, but even if that movie is good how much damage has already been done?
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Aug 2, 2016 17:36
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The point is when they flop financially.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:38
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First review I read reads like it's basically a comic book version of Ocean's 12, it looks like the cast had a fantastic time making the movie but you're bored watching them have fun. How Marvel makes their movies can't be that big of a secret can it? It can't be that hard when they make it seem so easy can it?
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Aug 2, 2016 17:38
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The weirdest thing I'm seeing in these reviews is that the Joker is barely in the film.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:39
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RevKrule posted:How Marvel makes their movies can't be that big of a secret can it? It can't be that hard when they make it seem so easy can it? I personally find both DC films and Marvel films equally enjoyable. I forgot where I read it, but someone made a food analogy of how DC films are trying to get Michelin stars and failing while Marvel are content just being Chili's. I thought that was a pretty good way of looking at things.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:41
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RevKrule posted:How Marvel makes their movies can't be that big of a secret can it? It can't be that hard when they make it seem so easy can it? They don't want to make the same kinds of movies Marvel is. And they can't, they would get torn apart even harder if they did.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:42
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RevKrule posted:How Marvel makes their movies can't be that big of a secret can it? It can't be that hard when they make it seem so easy can it?
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Aug 2, 2016 17:43
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MrAristocrates posted:Yeah but at some point that's not enough. Despite what some people here think of Man of Steel it kinda seems like DC is 0 for 3 in terms of big crowd-pleasers. This was supposed to be it. At what point do things have to change before they start damaging the brand? I'm not saying Wonder Woman will be bad, though Snyder's name attached in any way does not give me hope, but even if that movie is good how much damage has already been done? That's my thoughts on the matter too. Despite garnering criticism for being samey or not serious enough or whatnot, the Marvel films have by and large been big crowd-pleasers if not necessarily critical darlings. The DCCU thus far though hasn't been either, so it just seems like at some point they're gonna have to shake up their entire plan or else people are just gonna get fed up with them.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:43
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I'm probably at least a little biased towards Marvel but more than that I like it when movies are good, and I very much did not enjoy Man of Steel or BvS. I really just want to watch a good movie, especially after how weak this summer has been in that regard. I'm really genuinely disappointed that this doesn't seem to be good.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:44
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FlamingLiberal posted:The weirdest thing I'm seeing in these reviews is that the Joker is barely in the film. Thank god
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Aug 2, 2016 17:47
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For all the criticism Marvel gets about 'sanitizing' directors' visions, it sounds like DC didn't let David Ayer do his thing either
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Aug 2, 2016 17:47
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At least DC Rebirth is being really well received, right? 
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Aug 2, 2016 17:47
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Thank god I mean, it seemed fairly obvious he was going to be almost entirely relegated to flashbacks based on the trailers, though I don't know if he appears outside of them. But yeah, even if he did a great Joker all I'd be able to think about is what a loving rear end in a top hat Jared Leto is, and it seems like a lot of my fears about this Joker were pretty justified anyway.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:48
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Aphrodite posted:They don't want to make the same kinds of movies Marvel is. Virtually every review I've read characterizes Suicide Squad as DC aping Guardians and utterly failing. Also, holy poo poo: quote:Here is a film in which model-turned-actress Cara Delevingne gives not only a personal worst performance, but something close to a former-profession-worst performance, as a gyrating, bikini-clad villainess called Enchantress, who kisses men full on the lips to turn them into her slaves (of course!) and talks like Vanessa Redgrave on rhinoceros tranquiliser.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:51
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RevKrule posted:First review I read reads like it's basically a comic book version of Ocean's 12, it looks like the cast had a fantastic time making the movie but you're bored watching them have fun. That's a shame, I was hoping for an 11 or 13.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:51
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MrAristocrates posted:I mean, it seemed fairly obvious he was going to be almost entirely relegated to flashbacks based on the trailers, though I don't know if he appears outside of them. But yeah, even if he did a great Joker all I'd be able to think about is what a loving rear end in a top hat Jared Leto is, and it seems like a lot of my fears about this Joker were pretty justified anyway. Knowing he's not in it much makes me much more likely to see it, really the only thing about the movie that looks actively off-putting is the Harley/Joker stuff.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:51
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How do you make Suicide Squad boring? It feels like it should at least fail in an interesting way.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:52
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Toxxupation posted:Virtually every review I've read characterizes Suicide Squad as DC aping Guardians and utterly failing. From that it sounds like they're going for Poison Ivy from Batman & Robin, which is a bold choice
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ImpAtom posted:How do you make Suicide Squad boring? It feels like it should at least fail in an interesting way.
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Toxxupation posted:Also, holy poo poo: drat, as an actor, I wonder how you would feel if you read something like that about your performance. I mean I laughed, but poo poo I feel kinda bad too. Haha.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:55
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From all the reviews I've read David Ayer's vision got completely and utterly hamstrung by WB/DC scrambling to make it more of a crowd-pleaser. One review in particular made it sound like SS is almost a reaction to the anti-Ghostbusters brigade, where it's an intentionally infantile, overly sexualized mess that deals with manpain and sexy women gyrating over them, sorta like a "See comic book movies can be for white men too" reaction. I'm really glad that I got so disgusted with Leto's antics I vowed not to see this movie in theatres even before the reviews came out, because boy oh boy does this movie sound like a real boring mess.
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Please note that Toxx only reads reviews from Toxxupation News.
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I'm seeing Suicide Squad for my birthday. I expect it to be a hot loving mess. But at this point, basically all I want any superhero film to do is make me temporarily forget that the MCU is about Rob Rhinehart saving the world from the Weimar Republic.Codependent Poster posted:I would want to be an actor in a Snyder movie just because of the nutritionists and personal trainer that I'd get, plus pretty much getting paid to get ripped. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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Aug 2, 2016 18:03
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I honestly think BvS' initial crazy money was only for being "finally a movie with Batman AND Superman, arguably the two biggest names in all of fiction", and if it wasn't for that it probably would have struggled to make its money back. The word of mouth was atrocious.
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Aug 2, 2016 18:06
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i just watched the ultimate edition and thought it was an amazing spectacle. I am so pleased I missed the theatrical version and even more pleased I remained spoiler free. I loved the mash up of Dark Knight Returns and The Death of Superman. As usual Zack makes a beautiful film with amazing cinematography, and I thought the psychosis aspect of Bruces dreams was a great way of reminding the audience that this guy is not normal by any stretch of the imagination, which other bat films fail to convey. Wonder Womans reveal was excellent and myself and my wife fist punched the air with a 'YES!' when she appeared with the awesome shift in musical score, I loved MoS, I love BvS even more.
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Aug 2, 2016 18:08
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Yeah I know some people still like it, but it seems that most people really didn't, judging by crtiical reception and the sharp dropoff.
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Aug 2, 2016 18:14
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Aphrodite posted:Please note that Toxx only reads reviews from Toxxupation News. Variety posted:While that idea doesn’t make a lick of sense — especially since the U.S. wouldn’t be facing a meta-human threat if overzealous federal agent Amanda Waller (Viola Davis) hadn’t unlocked these bad guys to form Task Force X in the first place — implausibility alone doesn’t make it any less enticing to imagine how a director of David Ayer’s caliber might pluck nine of the most ill-behaved characters from the DC stable for an intense spandex-clad, super-powered spin on “The Dirty Dozen.” But for reasons beyond Ayer’s control, he’s beholden to the corporate vision of other recent DC adaptations, most notably Zack Snyder’s sleek-surfaced and oppressively self-serious riffs on the Superman legend. While it would have been amazing to see the director (fresh off WWII-set suicide-mission movie “Fury”) push his own nothing-to-lose anarchic boundaries, he’s ultimately forced to conform to Snyder’s style, to the extent that “Suicide Squad” ends up feeling more like the exec producer’s gonzo effects-saturated “Sucker Punch.” Telegraph posted:While it surely wasn’t Warner Bros.’ intention, Suicide Squad often feels like the film equivalent of a crumpled note passed to the anti-Ghostbusters trolls outside detention. "See?" it seems to say. "At least we haven’t forgotten you. We’ve got tube tops and gussets and proud but tormented men, and a scene in which Will Smith (as Deadshot, the world’s greatest marksman) shoots a wide range of deafening projectile weapons to a rousing pop music soundtrack." ScreenCrush posted:From the first scene to the last, it’s an absolute mess, one whose harried pacing, jumbled narrative, and blaring soundtrack of radio hits suggests a desperate post-production attempt to reconfigure what Ayer got on set into something palatable and poppy.
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Aug 2, 2016 18:15
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I'll just watch Seven Samurai instead.
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Aug 2, 2016 18:18
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teagone posted:drat, as an actor, I wonder how you would feel if you read something like that about your performance. I mean I laughed, but poo poo I feel kinda bad too. Haha. I've never experienced an excoriation like that, though shows I've been in have, and it sucks and it stings even when you can separate yourself from taking it personally. It sucks when you're proud of the work just the same as when you in the review is dead on.
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I'm not really sure what the path is for DC if this bombs, or comes off as a lukewarm piss like BvS. This is their "See, we can do Guardians/Deadpool too!" shot. If they can't pull it off here, it's likely the public won't tune in for Justice League. And if the drop-off is big enough, you have to wonder if they'll go through with the AquaMomoa, Cyborg and Flash movies. I would not object to their only definite hit being Wonder Woman though.
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FilthyImp posted:I would not object to their only definite hit being Wonder Woman though.
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