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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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Alternatively, the Kais do indeed have jobs, it's just that our friend the Supreme Kai is utterly terrible at it.
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Aug 2, 2016 15:12
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New Leaf posted:I kinda look at it like this - you plant a garden in your yard, and you're responsible for making sure that garden survives. There's ants and beetles and spiders and all sorts of creepy-crawlies in the garden, but as long as they don't threaten to destroy the garden, you're cool. So maybe there's a big gently caress-off spider named Frieza in there eating a whole bunch of ants? Who gives a poo poo. They're ants. The spider isn't destroying my cucumbers, so whatever. But then you get a rabbit.. a big fat pink Rabbit named Buu. That rabbit could really gently caress poo poo up. That rabbit could single handedly obliterate your entire garden! And I'm big and strong, and this is MY loving garden.. but rabbits are tricksy and fast and cunning and they'll just hide in a hole or dart off and I can't catch the rabbit. But my cat Goku.. I bet my cat can catch that rabbit.. A good point that goes well with this post. vvv Pureauthor posted:Alternatively, the Kais do indeed have jobs, it's just that our friend the Supreme Kai is utterly terrible at it. This is essentially my interpretation. I am being a bit glib when I say "they don't have a job at all" when I am more pointing out that there is no authority on making sure that the various super-powerful beings who spend thousands of years drinking tea and lecherously looking at the bodies of mortals actually do the only thing they are supposed to be on watch for. The freeloaders of the universe if you will.
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Aug 2, 2016 15:15
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reignofevil posted:Fair enough. I didn't see any Kai's standing in front of Majin Buu when he was ripping the whole universe a new one though. If your standards for "defending the mortals" are less of a threat than Buu but more of a threat than Frieza I don't even know what to tell you except that you really don't have a job.\ Regular Kais can't fight very well and are basically just overseers. They watch over a quadrant of the galaxy and then try to figure out ways to fix things (like recruiting their strong, good fighters to take out threats). Supreme Kais actually create worlds, can actually fight (all are supposedly way more powerful than non golden Freeza), and oversee the entire universe including the living/dead worlds. When Buu came, all we had were the old kaioshin and garbage East Kaioshin, and you see how that went. Since he was garbage, he had to recruit Gohan/Goku/Vegeta/Satan, who were way more powerful than him.
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Aug 2, 2016 16:34
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Goku just owned a supreme Kai in SS they can't fight either.
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Aug 2, 2016 16:50
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reignofevil posted:Fair enough. I didn't see any Kai's standing in front of Majin Buu when he was ripping the whole universe a new one though. In that situation, the Kais were out of their depth. Kaioshin's "bodyguard" Kibito, for example, did gently caress all. He just stood around looking tough and stern, but ultimately, he was just dunked on by Dabura. Evaporated just like one of Freeza's useless, nameless henchmen. Jedah fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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Aug 2, 2016 16:55
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The only competent gods are the guys who spent their lives sleeping and eating without a care, and force people to feed them in exchange for not blowing up their planets and killing them all, and sometimes they do anyways. Being a mortal is hard in any of the DB universes.
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Aug 2, 2016 16:59
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Pureauthor posted:Alternatively, the Kais do indeed have jobs, it's just that our friend the Supreme Kai is utterly terrible at it. To be fair, he's doing the work of like 5 people since Buu's last rampage.
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Aug 2, 2016 19:03
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Jedah posted:If we're specifically talking about the Buu saga, Kaioshin did attempt to stop the second coming of Majin Buu, but Majin Vegeta and Goku's mega-brawl provided a surplus of energy, which allowed Buu to resurrect at full power. At that point, there wasn't too much Kaioshin could do, since Majin Vegeta was determined to fight Goku, and would have killed Kaioshin if he tried to intervene. I guess this one of the consequences of what happens when mortals become stronger than the Gods themselves, right? I totally forgot about that. Fair enough I'll give Supreme Kai credit for even showing up.
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Aug 2, 2016 20:33
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I don't get into power level dick measuring contests, but I've always assumed Supreme Kai was around Cell strong, just totally outclassed when it came to Buu.
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Aug 2, 2016 20:52
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Huh, watching a Rhymestyle video on the newest episode and he makes a good case that Black is not Zamasu, but the evil he expelled, a la what Kami did to become guardian.
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Aug 2, 2016 21:34
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New Leaf posted:I don't get into power level dick measuring contests, but I've always assumed Supreme Kai was around Cell strong, just totally outclassed when it came to Buu. His bodyguard got dunked on by Dabura who was directly stated to be at Cell's level, and what's the point of a bodyguard that's weaker than you?
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Aug 2, 2016 21:38
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Eopia posted:His bodyguard got dunked on by Dabura who was directly stated to be at Cell's level, and what's the point of a bodyguard that's weaker than you? To be fair, that was kind of a cheap trick - unless you're talking about something other than the stone spit.
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Aug 2, 2016 21:39
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He didnt kill Kibito with spit he killed him with a pretty much regular Ki blast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhjmnoM5yNw&t=9s
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Aug 2, 2016 21:49
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Oh, drat, so he did. Hah, the gods are punks.
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Aug 2, 2016 21:51
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Eopia posted:His bodyguard got dunked on by Dabura who was directly stated to be at Cell's level, and what's the point of a bodyguard that's weaker than you? To be fair during Gohan's fight, they did say Dabura was a bit stronger than that, but still shouldn't be a problem. On the other hand Kaioshin wanted to gang up on Pui Pui (who assumed x10 gravity was formidable, basically Sayian saga stuff), who was slaughtered by base Vegeta. Kaioshin is a total scrub.
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Aug 2, 2016 22:08
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CharlestheHammer posted:Goku just owned a supreme Kai in SS they can't fight either. which means that guy was stronger than majin buu(all of them).
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Aug 2, 2016 22:38
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I'm kind of getting the feeling that Black isn't Zamasu or something, but a creation of Zamasu. Zamasu poured his Ki into Black, forming it into a facsimile of the guy who beat him, and sends it to gently caress up his universe in the future with a time ring. Black is basically a blank slate with some orders, and is designed to keep incorporating new abilities it learns. Maybe it got too powerful, killed Zamasu, and left to go vaporize Trunks' future because why not? I dunno. It just seems like Black isn't Zamasu, because his knowledge seems too limited.
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Aug 2, 2016 23:00
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Toriyama did say this storyline was gonna get confusing due to time travel.
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Aug 2, 2016 23:13
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will toei actually let toryiama do a story thats more than 1% cerebral though? FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON DRAGON BALL ZEEEEEEEE
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Aug 2, 2016 23:19
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*Super
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Aug 2, 2016 23:47
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Decided to watch Super on a whim the other day, not sure what my last exposure to DB was. Took a while to get into, seemed to start with what amounts to a filler arc, and am I right in thinking the first two arcs are retelling of the last two movies? Seems kind of odd since they were so recent. Way better than GT for sure, is that a separate continuity now? Can't remember much of it but I feel some of it doesn't work. Anyway, Beerus and Whis are great, and it's fun that they see to be making callbacks all the way back to original Dragonball and early DBZ which often seemed to be forgotten later on. It's funny how I'm enjoying the progression even though they introduced two more levels of Super Saiyan already (3 if you include adding Kaioken to them)
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Aug 3, 2016 01:41
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Go watch Battle of Gods. It's the Beerus and SSGod arc of Super except done way better. RoF arc is a wash though, neither version is that good.
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Aug 3, 2016 01:49
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We don't really know what they're verdict is on GT, but it really seems like they've just ignored it entirely. For what it's worth Xenoverse implied GT was an alternate timeline.
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Aug 3, 2016 01:49
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TBFair Xenoverse is itself an alternate timeline at best (Future Trunks has no idea who Beerus is in the game.)
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Aug 3, 2016 01:49
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GT is undeniably an alternate timeline at this point, considering new media adds several inconsistencies (even more than the ones GT has on its own, which aren't a few!). Plus, every game that has GT versions of the characters makes an effort to designate them as such (Goku (GT), Vegeta (GT), Gohan (GT), etc), no such thing happens with the Super versions. Also I'll make a suggestion here, BizarroAzrael: don't think of anything as filler here, it isn't adapted from a manga so there isn't real filler. Super has put a lot more effort into having slice-of-life bits than the previous shows and it absolutely benefits from it, some of my favourite episodes (Pan!) fall into the category and I think they do a great job fleshing out the characters and their interactions. Though the Pot-au-feu episodes were bad. Also also, I'll second watching BoG and skipping the arc entirely, since the movie is far better and there aren't any differences that will affect your viewing later. RoF, watch the anime, it's overall better than the movie. And then watch the series come into its own with the U6 arc, and the rather impressive showing that has been the Black arc.
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Aug 3, 2016 01:54
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Soon as you finish with the freeza arc everything starts getting way better, and then there's hype character moments with Vegeta and then there's the sickest thing you've always ever wanted and now we're gonna get some convoluted timeline poo poo that I love.
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Aug 3, 2016 01:56
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Pureauthor posted:Go watch Battle of Gods. It's the Beerus and SSGod arc of Super except done way better. I would say the Super version is better since it doesn't just throw away that minion with the cool scouter and allows the glorious return of Captain Ginyu.
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Aug 3, 2016 01:57
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Speaking of Battle of Gods, if you have seen the movie and haven't seen this, you should really loving watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h48Ru0-RJII
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Aug 3, 2016 02:08
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New Leaf posted:Speaking of Battle of Gods, if you have seen the movie and haven't seen this, you should really loving watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h48Ru0-RJII That's pretty neat. I always like to see how into it Sean Schemmel gets when he's making those Goku screams.
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Aug 3, 2016 02:37
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AndwhatIseeisme posted:That's pretty neat. I always like to see how into it Sean Schemmel gets when he's making those Goku screams. Yeah I love when they get really into it. The voice of Beerus is Tobin from 'The Walking Dead'. I was pretty floored the first time I found that out. Cool to see him doing this sort of thing.
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Aug 3, 2016 02:57
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New Leaf posted:I don't get into power level dick measuring contests, but I've always assumed Supreme Kai was around Cell strong, just totally outclassed when it came to Buu. Actually he probably wasn't even that strong didn't buu casue him to get promoted waay before he was ready?
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Aug 3, 2016 08:02
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dr.acula posted:He didnt kill Kibito with spit he killed him with a pretty much regular Ki blast Isn't the evil impulse generally presented as Dabura's signature move in all of the games?
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Aug 3, 2016 08:18
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the games don't really matter, they just take what's there and run with it
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Aug 3, 2016 08:46
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Rirse posted:I would say the Super version is better since it doesn't just throw away that minion with the cool scouter and allows the glorious return of Captain Ginyu. It kinda does though, because of Captain Ginyu.
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Aug 3, 2016 09:10
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http://mangastream.com/r/dragon_ball_super/014/3579/1 I like the expanded story.
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Aug 3, 2016 12:17
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I went "Oh hey its the time slipper from Dr Slump!" when the teacher was telling Lil' Trunks and Pilaf's Gang about time travel stuff.
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Aug 3, 2016 13:41
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Future Mai is great and her coming back to the past instead of Trunks would've been really interesting
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Aug 3, 2016 14:16
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Toyotaro did a much better job explaining how DB time travel works here than the anime did, not to mention gave an actual justification for why Trunks travelled at that exact point in time. The U6 arc in the manga was underwhelming, but the Black arc has started in a very good way. Hopefully both versions will give us great versions of the same thing.
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Aug 3, 2016 14:48
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Kild posted:http://mangastream.com/r/dragon_ball_super/014/3579/1 Jesus, that's a beautiful chapter all-around.
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Aug 3, 2016 17:14
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The way the sheath is drawn, it definitely looks more like the Old Kai Z-Sword than his old sword..
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Aug 3, 2016 17:46
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