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MeatwadIsGod posted:They almost certainly decided to go with WWI so as not to catch the "you're copying Marvel" line, even though both characters' origins are in WWII. Even so, it's a more novel setting and offers the potential for a more complex kind of story since "complicated web of alliances, chauvinism, and the mechanization of warfare" has a few more shades than "good guys vs. Nazis." I will be goddamn floored if they don't reduce it to good guys vs. we-swear-they're-not-Nazis. There are shots of faceless German goons in gas masks with machine guns in Amazon-land. There's lots of novel settings in WW2 for Western media, just avoid the Western European front.
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I mean, all I'm saying is that, whether any one person likes it or not, the MCU has successfully replicated the distribution and story-telling model of comic books, where you have stories and characters that spread out over multiple films that all tie in together. That they not only got it right, but are the first people to have ever seriously tried doing it, is a pretty cool achievement. There have certainly been MCU films that I didn't like much (first Captain America, both Thors, etc) but to say they're bland garbage is as empty a sentiment as can exist. Superhero comic books are not high art either, and the success of the MCU is an indicator that they're doing something right. At some point it becomes ludicrous to assert that millions of people "just have bad taste". It's the same reason I'll never say that Katy Perry is objectively worse than whatever obscure psychedelic band I like this week.
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precision posted:I mean, all I'm saying is that, whether any one person likes it or not, the MCU has successfully replicated the distribution and story-telling model of comic books, where you have stories and characters that spread out over multiple films that all tie in together. Is anyone saying the MCU isn't popular though?
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precision posted:I mean, all I'm saying is that, whether any one person likes it or not, the MCU has successfully replicated the distribution and story-telling model of comic books, where you have stories and characters that spread out over multiple films that all tie in together. Universal and Toho want a word with you
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precision posted:At some point it becomes ludicrous to assert that millions of people "just have bad taste". Can you draw me a bell curve graph to demonstrate this?
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LesterGroans posted:Is anyone saying the MCU isn't popular though? No, but people were saying "Despite the MCU being extremely popular and liked by many people, it's garbage" which is a ridiculous position to take unless you're a smug rear end in a top hat. Burkion posted:Universal and Toho want a word with you I really don't think they did it on the same level as the MCU, did they? Shared universe and crossovers are one thing, but what the MCU is doing goes way further than that.
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precision posted:No, but people were saying "Despite the MCU being extremely popular and liked by many people, it's garbage" which is a ridiculous position to take unless you're a smug rear end in a top hat. Not really. It happens to a lot of things all the time. food, sports, movies, TV shows.
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precision posted:I really don't think they did it on the same level as the MCU, did they? Shared universe and crossovers are one thing, but what the MCU is doing goes way further than that. Marvel hasn't actually done anything further than that. The only thing they did was doing it on purpose from the get go. The simple fact is that Avengers was made first in 1948 only with better jokes.
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precision posted:I really don't think they did it on the same level as the MCU, did they? Shared universe and crossovers are one thing, but what the MCU is doing goes way further than that. Both of the examples provided are also literally half a century old, one dead and one running on nostalgic reference and a recently successful soft reboot. Marvel brought back the serial format in cinemas, and that's a cool thing.
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precision posted:No, but people were saying "Despite the MCU being extremely popular and liked by many people, it's garbage" which is a ridiculous position to take unless you're a smug rear end in a top hat. If I think 2 Broke Girls is bad am I a smug rear end in a top hat?
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Neurolimal posted:Both of the examples provided are also literally half a century old, one dead and one running on nostalgic reference and a recently successful soft reboot. Older than that. The Universal Monster movies stretch back to the 20s, and Godzilla is 62 years old. However, much like with most things, that does not invalidate what they did and how they did it.
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Reading the reviews and the THR report on the behind-the-scenes turmoil, this sounds to me a lot like Fantastic Four. Not that it's necessarily as bad, but: Director with a specific vision for the film that doesn't necessarily get the source material very well and likely wouldn't have been very good, but at least attempted to do something different from the usual superhero fare, reshot and recut by a studio that decided it wanted a more conventional superhero film, resulting in a film with obvious clashes of tone and intent that ends up being even worse than if either side had had complete control over it.
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precision posted:No, but people were saying "Despite the MCU being extremely popular and liked by many people, it's garbage" which is a ridiculous position to take unless you're a smug rear end in a top hat. And yet BvS making $870 million doesn't count.
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computer parts posted:And yet BvS making $870 million doesn't count. I've never given an opinion on that film, as I haven't seen it, so I dunno why you're replying to me specifically about it.  Hat Thoughts posted:If I think 2 Broke Girls is bad am I a smug rear end in a top hat? Are you saying it's bad or are you saying you don't like it? There's a difference.
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precision posted:I've never given an opinion on that film, as I haven't seen it, so I dunno why you're replying to me specifically about it. I'm not replying to you specifically, rather to the type of person who commonly says "if popular then why bad?".
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computer parts posted:And yet BvS making $870 million doesn't count. It didn't beat The Dark Knight. So this is the height of movie quality, DC will be bringing to us in till we all die to robots.
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precision posted:Are you saying it's bad or are you saying you don't like it? There's a difference.
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Hat Thoughts posted:The only actual difference is that in one situation I have to preface every post I make with "In my opinion". Anyways there's such a thing as an objective truth & 2 Broke Girls is bad. These r the facts of the world. but Kat Dennings tits (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Tenzarin posted:It didn't beat The Dark Knight. I don't think anyone is disputing that TDK is more popular.
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LGD posted:but Kat Dennings tits If u are watching a bad sitcom with the sole goal of getting horned up u rly need to breath in deep & debride ur life(- J. Rosenstock 2014)
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loving   I'm probably still going to see this with the wife but at this point I expect the Suicide Squad animated movie will probably have been more coherent and have more bite.
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The only thing I want to buy from Hot Topic is my Reaper costume for Halloween and i don't even want to buy that tbh
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Its like they combined Marilyn Manson and the Joker.
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My wife has outgrown Hot Topic but she loves this version of Harley and will likely buy at least that shirt if not the whole outfit. She really identifies with the character. I try not to think about what that implies about how I am or how she thinks of me. Things like that are probably why I do so many drugs.
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precision posted:My wife has outgrown Hot Topic but she loves this version of Harley and will likely buy at least that shirt if not the whole outfit. She really identifies with the character. Has she, now?
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Noam Chomsky posted:Has she, now? They only go up to XXL
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:They only go up to XXL 
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:They only go up to XXL Doesn't Torrid still exist?
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The only acceptable post credit scene for this movie would be a Will Smith music video. 
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Yvonmukluk posted:So, looking at the reviews people have already posted in this thread, would I be correct in assuming Katana doesn't do much except look cool?
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I like how people call out Marvel for being 'bland mass market garbage' while championing the DC cinematic universe as it it wasn't just more poorly executed mass market garbage. Most film snobs get all 'plebs  ' over like art-house film or something. Suicide Squad is literally just focus tested mass market comic book punch em up blockbuster schlock, just without the charm and polish of the competing comic book schlock.
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lazorexplosion posted:I like how I prefer why, personally.
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precision posted:I mean, all I'm saying is that, whether any one person likes it or not, the MCU has successfully replicated the distribution and story-telling model of comic books, where you have stories and characters that spread out over multiple films that all tie in together.
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Kurzon posted:I grew up during the 90s. Oh sweetie I'm so sorry
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precision posted:My wife has outgrown Hot Topic but she loves this version of Harley and will likely buy at least that shirt if not the whole outfit. She really identifies with the character. Why this version, specifically?  It doesn't even seem like it's the same character
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An art house movie and a focus-tested movie contain the same number of particles. Structurally, there's no discernible difference.
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K. Waste posted:An art house movie and a focus-tested movie contain the same number of particles. Structurally, there's no discernible difference.
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So how about all the cast having some fun during the UK premiere? https://twitter.com/SuicideSquadHQ/status/760913149772107776 https://twitter.com/DCTurkiye_/status/760903330260451329 https://twitter.com/bestofcavill/status/760937367700209664 And hey, at least Patty Jenkins liked the movie  https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/status/760980058127339520 https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/status/760980940294422528
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