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Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Did he give a reason for the crazy upswing or was it just him covering his rear end?

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Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Pollyanna posted:

Did he give a reason for the crazy upswing or was it just him covering his rear end?

The polls changed and it's from the joke model that pretends that the polls swinging wildly matters.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

That's the "now-cast," it just shows what would happen if the election were held today. It doesn't hold itself out as a prediction, really.

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich
The nowcast is Hillary Clinton 83.8%, Donald Trump 16.2% now

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
im now casting nathan silver out of my mind

Leviathan
Oct 8, 2001

I hear the jury's
still out.. on science.
Fun Shoe


there's something fishy about the latest forecast tracker update

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Leviathan posted:



there's something fishy about the latest forecast tracker update

I don't see why there has to be, this is a big swing but it's also an important moment in the race (the conventions)

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Clinton had 2 good polls in PA today which swung the state well in her favor

Fairly good one from Rasmussen of all pollsters in Nevada too that replaced an older bad one, where there's been surprisingly little polling

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Jose posted:

anyone got some some good tweets/links about how poo poo nate silver is?

right here

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

friend, you mistakenly linked to fivethirtyeight.com when surely you meant to link to sixthirtyeight.com

Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."

Civilized Fishbot posted:

I don't see why there has to be, this is a big swing but it's also an important moment in the race (the conventions)

it's because it looks like one of those jesus fish, friend

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

*slow but measured clapping*

*rest of audience joins in thunderous applause*

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
You could skip your colonoscopy if you're willing to collect your poop.

point of return
Aug 13, 2011

by exmarx

Leviathan posted:



there's something fishy about the latest forecast tracker update

as people were saying upthread, that's the nowcast

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich

point of return posted:

as people were saying upthread, that's the nowcast

It actually isn't. The nowcast is even more volatile.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Tayter Swift posted:

You could skip your colonoscopy if you're willing to collect your poop.

Thanks, Jill Stein.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

https://twitter.com/micahcohen/status/760527323418488835

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
It's cool how self-actualized they are WRT just how incapable the general public is at interpreting any form of quantitative information rationally.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



I guess that makes PEC methadone.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Bip Roberts posted:

It's cool how self-actualized they are WRT just how incapable the general public is at interpreting any form of quantitative information rationally.

I literally listened to an interview of Nate Silver and Harry Enten where the interview asked what the odds are that Trump is elected if it has a 40% probability of happening

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

Nate 2012: People aren't caring enough about polls
Nate 2016: You people are caring too much about polls

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


Nate 2020: "As you once did for the vacuous Trump, grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy."

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Civilized Fishbot posted:

I literally listened to an interview of Nate Silver and Harry Enten where the interview asked what the odds are that Trump is elected if it has a 40% probability of happening

51% means Nate is 100% wrong if the outcome is the 49%

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich
The nowcast is now 85.9% Clinton, and shows her with all swing states and now closing in on flipping Arizona and Georgia.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I hear this thread has got some of that purestrain Silver. Man, I'm fiending for some of that. Can someone hook a brotha up?

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

Corek posted:

The nowcast is now 85.9% Clinton, and shows her with all swing states and now closing in on flipping Arizona and Georgia.

I think I buy that

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
I mean based on polls alone at least, I mean lets be real here if the election really was today trump would have precisely zero chance with the week he's having

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
what are even statistics anyway when you think about it, you're just making up numbers after the fact to make yourself feel better





























:twisted:

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Nowcast: 88.6% Clinton, 11.3% Trump.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
NATE!

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008



:getin:

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
is... that...accurate?!

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Has Harry Enten ever been wrong before?

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

sure is lovely that the generic ballot needs to be more than 4% Dem for "likely Dem control"

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Jesus, these national polls sure are, uh, something

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Tayter Swift posted:

Jesus, these national polls sure are, uh, something



What about the one true pollster, rassmussen, trump is still winning for them right?

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Last national Rass poll was Clinton +1 last week, which Nate unskewed to C+5

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
Jesus hes hosed

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Al! posted:

Jesus hes hosed

There's still plenty of time for, uh...

*Shuffles notes around*

... Nope, I got nothing.

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
Maybe for the first time in her career, hillary will actually have a scandal that is real

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