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ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

kru posted:

When they have open jobs

thanks, that's really helpful and fairly witty as well.

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kru
Oct 5, 2003

Thanks friend :)

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

ladron posted:

thanks, that's really helpful and fairly witty as well.

Honestly you're well above my pay grade and the one contact I had in the university hiring system was given his notice by the company I just quit from so I doubt he'll be interested in answering any of my questions.

The one place I can direct you towards is jobsdb.com. They'll likely have a better selection of the types of jobs you're looking for than Ajarn would.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Atlas Hugged posted:



The one place I can direct you towards is jobsdb.com. They'll likely have a better selection of the types of jobs you're looking for than Ajarn would.


Thanks for the tip.
Any other advice/tidbits about Bangkok anyone wants to share are appreciated

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
I remember there was a guy who was either talking about, or already had, a teaching job at a Thai university--not one of the major ones in Bangkok or Chiang Mai, I think, but one of the provincial universities. You could look through the thread for that and try messaging him.

Bangkok is great. You'll either love it or hate it.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

ladron posted:

Thanks for the tip.
Any other advice/tidbits about Bangkok anyone wants to share are appreciated
I can ask when hiring season is and get back, but I imagine it follows the calendar - with allowances for the snail pace of academia. I think they're all out on leave right now, might be an opportune time. With a PhD and whatnot it shouldn't be hard to get something, but whether you can find something you want is another matter. Other than doing a special lecture series for an MBA program once a year, most years, I don't have anything to do with education, but I've got friends either teaching or heading departments at various places that are somewhat regarded locally and I've lived around long enough to meet plenty of people teaching at other places, and I can't imagine based on the latter group that you'd have an issue finding something, heh. Some universities, like ABAC, have specific hiring paths via their Jesuit feeder universities, while others are open to just anyone applying. The less prestigious, the easier it is to get in, of course.

You didn't pass along a lot of info on what your acceptable options are, but within Bangkok Thammasat and Chula are the "Harvard and Yale" which are really more like the Berkeley and Yale, with Thammasat traditionally being the humanities counterculture (as such a thing exists) university here. Chula is the royal university. The technically oldest institution of higher learning is Mahidol, IIRC, though it's not the oldest university per se as such a thing didn't exist or something like that. ABAC is mired in controversy after a scandal and government takeover and is basically the SMU or Pepperdine of Bangkok. There are a heap of decent schools like Ramkamhaeng, Kasetsart and others as well that vary a lot by level and program from what I gather and who hire foreign staff, and then there are the private equity play schools that have flooded in with important sounding names and glitzy offices in the malls - Stamford, Webster and whatever else we Americans are up to. A few niche schools for art, plenty of teaching colleges and engineering colleges, then a heap of sort of technical schools that seem to fall on either side of actual college or vocational school for reasons I don't even bother to figure out.

Provincially, there are good schools, but many fewer as you might imagine. Cost of living outside Bangkok (leaving aside tourist islands) drops exponentially, so if that's an option the pay drop is often worth the COL drop monetarily.

I'll ask and get back. Not sure what'll come up.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jul 31, 2016

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

ReindeerF posted:

I can ask when hiring season is and get back, but I imagine it follows the calendar - with allowances for the snail pace of academia.

I'll ask and get back.

wow, thanks dude. Can I ask you to get in touch with me privately? ladron@hotmail

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009
i guess Rinjani has decided to be a dick in the week I'm due to fly to Bali for my connecting flight to Jogja :(

Pie Colony
Dec 8, 2006
I AM SUCH A FUCKUP THAT I CAN'T EVEN POST IN AN E/N THREAD I STARTED
Hi folks. How long does it usually take to get a Thai visa extension in Thailand? Alternatively does the leave country/come back in trick work still? I think I heard rumors, maybe from this thread, that they stopped allowing it.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Pie Colony posted:

Hi folks. How long does it usually take to get a Thai visa extension in Thailand? Alternatively does the leave country/come back in trick work still? I think I heard rumors, maybe from this thread, that they stopped allowing it.
Visa extensions, last I heard, are pro forma as long as you don't have 20 in your passport (and even then probably). The border hopping was only an issue down South from what I hear, though there was one errant week at Poipet years ago. Stuff changes day to day, the default is "I don't care" so unless you are a recidivist overstayer or you happen to try the day after someone blows something up you're probably fine.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
If you're coming in on a 30 day visa exemption, you'll be able to extend it for another 30 days at the nearest immigration office. Costs 1800 baht, and doesn't take long (depending on how long the queue is at immigration of course)

I'm pretty sure you can't do a border hop for a new 30 day exempt stamp anymore. I know you can't at Mae Sai near me, anyway. Every time I go I see some poor rear end in a top hat getting turned away who just spent 5 hours in a minivan all the way from Chiang Mai. If you're planning on staying longer than 60 days, it's probably sensible to get a visa beforehand. A single entry tourist visa is good for 60 days which you can then extend another 30.

Bardeh fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Aug 1, 2016

Pie Colony
Dec 8, 2006
I AM SUCH A FUCKUP THAT I CAN'T EVEN POST IN AN E/N THREAD I STARTED
Oh cool, that sounds pretty easy. I was worried you had to leave your passport there for several days or something. I guess I'll do that, thanks.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

Pie Colony posted:

Oh cool, that sounds pretty easy. I was worried you had to leave your passport there for several days or something. I guess I'll do that, thanks.

Nah, once you're in there it takes about 5 minutes. It's the queues you have to worry about. Chiang Mai immigration in particular is notoriously awful.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Bardeh posted:

It's the queues you have to worry about.

brother, you ain't kidding

http://imgur.com/a/JVBQp

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

ladron posted:

brother, you ain't kidding

http://imgur.com/a/JVBQp

I just saw this on my local Facebook group (in Chiang Rai). Want me to PM him for contact details?

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Bardeh posted:

I just saw this on my local Facebook group (in Chiang Rai). Want me to PM him for contact details?



good looking out, and sincerely thank you, but I gotta stay around bangkok until at least April

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Polak loses the plot

http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/08/01/drunk-polish-man-robs-7-eleven-phaya-thai-booze-and-cigarettes

His name and face vaguely reminded me of a Pole I ran into in Bangkok over ten years ago, who was an acquaintance of an acquaintance. Might even be the same guy. He would start doing bizarre Euro-techno dancing any time there was background music and he didn't have something he was supposed to be doing.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Quote isn't edit

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

It's a wonder the Thai still harbor this fantasy optimistic view of White foreigners in Thailand given, you know, white foreigners in Thailand.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

XyrlocShammypants posted:

It's a wonder the Thai still harbor this fantasy optimistic view of White foreigners in Thailand given, you know, white foreigners in Thailand.
Could not agree more. One walk down Lower Sukhumvit in the evening is enough shame for a lifetime.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

ReindeerF posted:

Could not agree more. One walk down Lower Sukhumvit in the evening is enough shame for a lifetime.

I don't drink or smoke, and I'm living in the suburbs avoiding downtown late at night like the CHUD are gonna get me

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
I was just in Ao Nong and Bangkok, and foreigners and Thai people seemed perfectly polite to one another. Did I luck out and avoid the really scummy hangouts?

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

TsarZiedonis posted:

I was just in Ao Nong and Bangkok, and foreigners and Thai people seemed perfectly polite to one another. Did I luck out and avoid the really scummy hangouts?

Ao Nang is a pretty family and backpacker dominated area, so you won't find most of the dregs there. Bangkok is huge and varied, but just spend some time on Lower Sukhumvit as ReindeerF said, if you want to immerse yourself in the seedier side of things. Some of the best people-watching in the world to be had there. Sit down, have a beer, and watch fat old Arabs and western guys arm in arm with skinny young Thai women. About an hour is enough before you start to feel like you need a shower.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Also Arab families with the woman in a full gotten walking 5 meters behind pushing a stroller while a ladyboy chases and propositions the husband and 3 old European sex tourists walk by with their consorts and a Nigerian pimp argues with a policeman.

I mean it's hardly the pit bottom, it's just the biggest mix of cultures. If you want to see something really craven just go to walking Street in Pattaya, heh

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

ReindeerF posted:

I mean it's hardly the pit bottom, it's just the biggest mix of cultures. If you want to see something really craven just go to walking Street in Pattaya, heh

Don't do this, it's not worth it.

Boola
Dec 7, 2005
The thing that amazed me about Pattaya was all of the families of tourists walking down it with children in hand and the large Chinese tour groups with the lady running in front holding the flag herding the group down the street giving little talks while they snap pictures. Like - why take your 7 and 5 year olds walking down one of the most wretched hives of scum and villiany? Why go to Pattaya as a family on vacation in the first place? There are so many other easily accessible beach areas in Thailand.

I also imagine the Chinese tour group leader to be pointing things out such as, "on your left you can see a group of REAL ladyboys trying to aggressively get men to come into their establishment" and "on your right you can see women who try to look and might possibly be teenagers because Japanese men with deep pockets have a Lolita fetish" and then the Chinese tourists all ooh and ahh and take 500 pictures, 400 of them being terrible selfies.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Yeah that's the thing. Why bring Grandma and the kids?

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Boola posted:

on your right you can see women who try to look and might possibly be teenagers

directions, plz, tia

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

ladron posted:

directions, plz, tia

with all of those police raids recently, try any soapy massage place in Bangkok, apparently

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

Chantilly Say posted:

Yeah that's the thing. Why bring Grandma and the kids?

Sticking together as a family tends to be a common thing in Asia, speaking from experience. Maybe you don't want to leave the kids alone at home, maybe you want to "make memories" and take a billion pictures, or maybe you just want to go somewhere with family; all sorts of reasons with caveats aplenty.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Bardeh posted:

with all of those police raids recently, try any soapy massage place in Bangkok, apparently

nice. human misery is my jam.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

toasterwarrior posted:

Sticking together as a family tends to be a common thing in Asia, speaking from experience. Maybe you don't want to leave the kids alone at home, maybe you want to "make memories" and take a billion pictures, or maybe you just want to go somewhere with family; all sorts of reasons with caveats aplenty.

sure, but you can do all that and not go to Pattaya

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Bardeh posted:

sure, but you can do all that and not go to Pattaya

To me you can make a case for going to Pattaya but it always comes out awkward. "Both Flint Michigan and San Francisco have zoos, universities, parks, rivers etc. so just go to Flint Michigan instead!" In reality, you are better off going to Hua Hin than Pattaya for a beach town, or Bangkok/Chiang Mai for other vacation stuff.

It's not exaggerating that you're vastly more likely to run into prostitution, drugs, drug addicts or even a possible suicide/accident in Pattaya than other places. It's just a seedy lovely shithole.

I stayed there a few times to go to the convention center up on the hill and stayed at the all inclusive resort. If all you want to do is stay inside the all inclusive resorts and never go into town after 5-6pm then it's probably not a bad choice, I just find Pattaya to be a soul-crushing place if you actually have your eyes open.

Shammypants fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Aug 3, 2016

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

XyrlocShammypants posted:

To me you can make a case for going to Pattaya but it always comes out awkward. "Both Flint Michigan and San Francisco have zoos, universities, parks, rivers etc. so just go to Flint Michigan instead!" In reality, you are better off going to Hua Hin than Pattaya for a beach town, or Bangkok/Chiang Mai for other vacation stuff.

It's not exaggerating that you're vastly more likely to run into prostitution, drugs, drug addicts or even a possible suicide/accident in Pattaya than other places. It's just a seedy lovely shithole.

I stayed there a few times to go to the convention center up on the hill and stayed at the all inclusive resort. If all you want to do is stay inside the all inclusive resorts and never go into town after 5-6pm then it's probably not a bad choice, I just find Pattaya to be a soul-crushing place if you actually have your eyes open.

Also need to have a soul I think.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Boola posted:

The thing that amazed me about Pattaya was all of the families of tourists walking down it with children in hand

Half my family lives in BKK (my farang dad had a successful export business from there, married a local, had more kids, have extended Thai family, etc), so I spent a lot of time visiting or living there thanks to custody. In the 90s, Pattaya was our once or twice annual vacation place for all of us and my dad's business friends and their families. The destination was the huge waterslide park that I don't know if it still exists there.
We'd take a bus down from BKK together and get hotel rooms near each other and us kids would flip our poo poo at having less supervision while the parents wanted a break. When I was 11/12 they let us go off on our own from the hotel to the malls to play video games and we'd sometimes return from goofing off at 10pm or later.

The thing that got me was the amount of adult gay men that would proposition me or flirt with me when they'd see we were alone. I didn't speak Thai, and my friends/family did and they'd tell them to go away, but there was always someone who'd say something to me or make comments. I wasn't one of those "looks old for his age" kids either, I was a dork with a bowl cut. I had no idea that banging kids was totally a thing there and I just thought that all gay people didn't care about age.

My dad is one of those kind of guys that thinks kids shouldn't be so sheltered to the realities of life, and we'd sometimes go out just the two of us there and we'd see the weirdest poo poo. He'd take me into the kickboxing bars and nobody gave a poo poo there was a little kid there. Hookers would try to talk to me and he'd tell them I was a kid and they'd be like "Your boy so big, he have fun too!" (No, I never did). We'd sit along the beach wall eating ice cream and watch all of the sexpats with their hookers and he'd tell me the stories some of these guys had told him when'd grab a beer, such as one guy lived next to a Chinese (HK or Taiwan) guy there who would always have several girls to his room at night. The guy got curious and asked one of the girls what was going on in there. She said he was paying them to poo poo on plates and he'd eat it.

Anyway, back then I remember the main groups of tourists were Germans, followed by British, and then Australians. The Germans would be practically naked everywhere because they couldn't bear the heat, and I'd see a German dad and son doing what me and my dad were doing, but the kid would be holding a beer and they'd go get hookers together. Since it was the 90s, and Germans and Japanese had that stigma for scat porn, my dad would always be like "I bet they're making GBS threads on those girls! They do that over there in Germany!!!"
My main confusion was always that why are the white sexpats so fat and ugly? I thought it was the weirdest thing about the whole situation. I never thought money was part of it, I assumed that either going to hookers made one ugly and fat, or being ugly and fat made one go to hookers.

I enjoyed the waterslide park a lot but Pattaya as a kid taught me a lot about humanity. I became extremely embarrassed for a long time to mention Thailand because I thought people would assume I was one of those making GBS threads hooker lovers and I was a creep. I haven't been Pattaya since 1997 and I have no interest to ever go again.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Now it's like all Russian, and you'll see buskers performing Russian classics on guitar for change. It makes Pattaya less 'nasty sex awkward' and more 'is the Russian mafia going to kill me awkward.' At least that is how I felt when I saw a baht bus get shaken down by a group of Russians in their 20s.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Pattaya has the Cartoon Network water park, though. Can't miss that.

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

I always find it more fun to stay and walk around in the red light districts with hookers, ladyboys, bars, drug dealers, cripples, homeless, touts, stereotypical fat expats, you name it. It just adds to the people-watching and entertainment as far as I see it. Staying in a clean and sober area is boring, I can do that in Europe where I live.

Of course in the long term, or when settling with family, I can imagine it will get boring and pointless for sure.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

Pilsner posted:

I always find it more fun to stay and walk around in the red light districts with hookers, ladyboys, bars, drug dealers, cripples, homeless, touts, stereotypical fat expats, you name it. It just adds to the people-watching and entertainment as far as I see it. Staying in a clean and sober area is boring, I can do that in Europe where I live.

Of course in the long term, or when settling with family, I can imagine it will get boring and pointless for sure.

It's entertaining for a night or two. Then it's just incredibly depressing.

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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
There's always a new group from what I gather. I forget how it goes, but starting post-American/Vietnam War, something like Americans, then British and French, then Germans, then Scandinavians, then Russians, now Chinese. God bless Thailand's tourist sector economy if the world stops generating newly wealthy countries who like triangle pillows, bad versions of their own food and low cost hand jobs.

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