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I wouldn't be surprised if Brook has at least partially immune to Big Mom's powers. He can already detach his soul from his body himself and fly it around, so maybe he can just leave if she tries to catch it.
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MonsterEnvy posted:They don't really need to agree. As we have seen her simply take all of one of her son's life. She didn't take all of it. She took forty years.
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Aug 4, 2016 15:42
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Brook (and probably Luffy) get their souls taken by Big Mom and end up in some kind of soul world. Brook is able to maintain control of himself thanks to his devil fruit power, briefly fights with Luffy's soul (as well as all the souls gathered by Big Mom over the years), and eventually manages to get them to turn against Big Mom, perhaps even merging his soul and Luffy's briefly. They then fight Big Mom from within. Meanwhile, Luffy's body is attempting to fight Big Mom as a decrepit old man and is getting thrashed, so there's a sense of urgency where Luffy's body might die before the rest of his soul is returned. Kuroyama posted:She didn't take all of it. She took forty years. I have to wonder if this kind of thing is common enough that Big Mom eventually calms down and returns a bunch of the soul back to its owner. Not all of it, mind you, but maybe half? QuantaStarFire fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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tsob posted:They don't have to, but that's part of the formal procedure her Homies carry out. Which is presumably because if she just took all of everyone's soul then she'd just be killing all the people to animate objects and would still have much the same population, just with no people. gently caress I want this so much now.
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I'm still not budging on Jinbei but I'm also pro-Carrot now
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"Nothing stops the souls from entering animals", so is Chopper going to be possessed?
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I'm almost at the "acceptance" phase of Jimbei crew member but there's still some hope for me that he's dead or something and Carrot or Pedro joins.Sub Harrison posted:"Nothing stops the souls from entering animals", so is Chopper going to be possessed? Chopper talking to animals indicates they have free will and some level of sapience in the One Piece universe, they just can't talk so souls entering their bodies and taking control is kinda hosed up.
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I will never be pro-Pedro, sorry
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Theres no way that Brook can get through this arc without some sort of Soul King joke.
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Sorry, but what was Brook's fruit again?
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Mraagvpeine posted:Sorry, but what was Brook's fruit again? Yomi yomi aka "revival revival"
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big mom stole a shitload of Rogers' life and that was the "incurable disease" he developed and how he knew his life was ending.
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Crazyeyes posted:big mom stole a shitload of Rogers' life and that was the "incurable disease" he developed and how he knew his life was ending. seems unlikely although chopper curing devil fruit powers would be pretty cool
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I wonder if this power can be used to extend the lifespans of other people, not just Big Mom's. The shortening of Luffy's lifespan has been a big plot beat and it would be interesting if he could regain some of what he lost while recovering in Impel Down.
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When was the last time a Devil Fruit user lost to water?
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^^^ Jack.Radish posted:Allowing people to agree or leave is probably just a nice gesture. I'm sure that she could take 100% without consent if she wanted to (didn't she do that to her one son?). I'm guessing that there is some sort of limitation like the person has to not be moving or something in order to make sure that she isn't unbeatable in a fight. Or leaving comes with a big penalty, like maybe 10 years of life or something.
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RatHat posted:^^^ Jack. Oh poo poo. Forgot about him completely because he felt unimportant.
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Crazyeyes posted:big mom stole a shitload of Rogers' life and that was the "incurable disease" he developed and how he knew his life was ending. Unlikely, since they specifically mention that you can resist if you don't show fear. I can't imagine it working on someone like Roger.
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There's a lot going on here and a lot to talk about now, but I'll save it for now and just give a summary: This chapter owns. This arc owns. One Piece owns. Owns owns owns.
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Does this mean Chopper didn't have a soul before he ate the Devil fruit because that seems kind of hosed up and maybe contradictory to how other animals act in this series
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Does this mean Chopper didn't have a soul before he ate the Devil fruit because that seems kind of hosed up and maybe contradictory to how other animals act in this series I guess all
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Does this mean Chopper didn't have a soul before he ate the Devil fruit because that seems kind of hosed up and maybe contradictory to how other animals act in this series could be no two types of one soul can overlap in one body, so like, choppers soul cant go in another reindeer. if souls are tied to devil fruits (like they are with brook), could be possible blackbeard has two souls.
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I have to laugh at the fact that even Brook can get a brain freeze. 
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AradoBalanga posted:I have to laugh at the fact that even Brook can get a brain freeze. It's pretty brainless of him to eat that much ice cream that quickly. 
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My head canon is that Nami didn't get a brain freeze because her knowledge of weather and temperature allows her to know how the human body reacts to sudden temperature change also Sanji is a fuckup
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we haven't actually seen big mom take someone's unique "soul" though have we. just measurements of life force
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So can we just take a moment to discuss Franky's awesome shirt?
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Fuckshoes posted:So can we just take a moment to discuss Franky's awesome shirt? Yes we can. It's a good shirt.
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Radish posted:Allowing people to agree or leave is probably just a nice gesture. I'm sure that she could take 100% without consent if she wanted to (didn't she do that to her one son?). I'm guessing that there is some sort of limitation like the person has to not be moving or something in order to make sure that she isn't unbeatable in a fight. OP has had loads of uncounterable (except for haki and seastone) abilities that are stupid broken in theory but in practice depend on human beings actually using them correctly and intelligently and quickly in response to the situation. See: Foxy, Law, Magellan, Bonney, etc. Big Mam's ability isn't all that scary because she needs to actually physically approach you, it takes a small amount of time for the ability to 'channel' or whatever, and she is also physically vulnerable for that whole time. She also seems to gain no defense. As opposed to, say, being able to dismember/timestop/agesteal you from range instantly at will, or just megadeathpoison anything within 2km radius and also coat yourself with it to avoid attacks. Depending on how well she can take an attack she may be close to unbeatable 1v1, but if you're a qroup of skilled people including some ranged fighters, I don't see what she can do besides take one of you out at a time while taking a massive beating. I would be extremely surprised if Big Mam could handle herself in combat against, say, Blackbeard and his crew. Bisse fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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Bisse posted:A counter would be to deck her in the face before she can grab your life energy. I think Big Mom's whole shtick is that she doesn't have to fight to win. She has possibly the largest crew in the world. Why should she personally need to get involved? She has such a wealth of information and strong fighters at her disposal she is unlikely to end up in a situation necessitating she actually do anything besides scheme and maneuver her troops.
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Crazyeyes posted:I think Big Mom's whole shtick is that she doesn't have to fight to win. She has possibly the largest crew in the world. Why should she personally need to get involved? She has such a wealth of information and strong fighters at her disposal she is unlikely to end up in a situation necessitating she actually do anything besides scheme and maneuver her troops.
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But she is also very strong, as shown a few chapters ago.
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Moms are tough.
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You'd have to be, to give birth to over a hundred kids
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...who the gently caress is Lola? I honestly don't remember. That's the price you pay for including between 12 and 35 additional named characters per arc.
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Rangpur posted:...who the gently caress is Lola? I honestly don't remember. That's the price you pay for including between 12 and 35 additional named characters per arc. The captain from Thriller Bark, who said her mom is a big shot in the New World.
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cool thanks, back to being hype now Yeah! Lola! Whoooooo! (Actually I've been digging this arc despite being cool on it early on--it looked like the talking everything was a repeat of Dressrosa's talking toys.) Rangpur fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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Rangpur posted:...who the gently caress is Lola? I honestly don't remember. That's the price you pay for including between 12 and 35 additional named characters per arc. when koala showed up again half the thread went aw yeah koala cool dang neat and the other half didn't have any idea who she was
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Rangpur posted:...who the gently caress is Lola? I honestly don't remember. That's the price you pay for including between 12 and 35 additional named characters per arc. The pirate captain that Nami befriended on Thriller Bark. Her shadow was put into a warthog and ruined Absalom's plan to marry Nami, then Nami met the real Lola on a ship lost in the Florian Triangle. Lola also helped Luffy become Nightmare Luffy to fight Oars. At the end off the arc Lola gave Nami a vivre card and mentioned that her mom was a big deal. Interestingly, at first everyone assumed that Lola's mom was Weevil's mom, as they looked very similar. I wonder now if that mom isn't Big Mom's mom (Bigger Mom) or sister (Big Aunt).
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