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open24hours posted:What happens if the guy actually is ineligible? State parliament replaces him with someone. This is normally someone from the same party.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 09:32 |
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open24hours posted:What happens if the guy actually is ineligible? Word is his wife will probably get the spot, if this is the WA bloke that they are talking about
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 09:35 |
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It would be absolutely hilarious if the wa Libs decided to put a liberal senator in instead as their parting blow before the state election.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 09:51 |
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norp posted:It would be absolutely hilarious if the wa Libs decided to put a liberal senator in instead as their parting blow before the state election. Nah ever since that whole 1975 thing, they have to be from the same party.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 09:58 |
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MiniSune posted:Nah ever since that whole 1975 thing, they have to be from the same party. Was this actually made into law?
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 10:00 |
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Gorbash posted:Via @pollytics, I give you Senator Elect Malcolm Roberts: Lmao check out page 6 and the schedule of fees
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 10:07 |
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Yeah I thought it was as per state laws and/or conventions
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 10:07 |
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If we’re honest, most of us would accept that a senate crossbench is a little bit like a bad father or a bad husband … you find that he tends to do more good than harm *kills self* Lifeline 13 11 14
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 10:07 |
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Gorbash posted:Via @pollytics, I give you Senator Elect Malcolm Roberts: Jesus-loving: Christ.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 10:23 |
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Solemn Sloth posted:Was this actually made into law? One of the few referendums that got up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_referendum,_1977_(Senate_Casual_Vacancies)
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 10:36 |
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Gorbash posted:Via @pollytics, I give you Senator Elect Malcolm Roberts: Can someone explain what is going on, or is it all just pages of just as crazy.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 10:37 |
Zenithe posted:Can someone explain what is going on, or is it all just pages of just as crazy. "I don't believe in global warming, it's going to cost me a lot of money. I don't believe australia isn't a corporation in the us stock exchange. prove it to me, julia gillard, or else i'm going to take a lien over all of your assets forever"
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 10:46 |
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Zenithe posted:Can someone explain what is going on, or is it all just pages of just as crazy. The summary is that he has crazy views on climate science, and his views on the legal system make those look sane and reasonable.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 10:46 |
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MissEchelon posted:Today was also Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Children's Day, so good job Bill Leak you Murdoch toady.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 13:24 |
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Pretty good if tongue-in-cheek breakdown of Turnbull's options with this Senate. TL;DR: he fukt http://www.smh.com.au/comment/view-from-the-street/theres-never-been-a-more-exciting-time-to-be-horrified-by-the-senate-20160804-gqkygq.html SMH posted:When Malcolm Turnbull made his stirring not-victory speech on the night of the election, he made very, very, very clear that changing the senate ballot immediately before calling a double dissolution election was absolutely not intended in any way to clear out the senate crossbench about which he'd been complaining for the previous eight months.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 13:34 |
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Zenithe posted:Can someone explain what is going on, or is it all just pages of just as crazy. Sovereign citizens - batshit crazy people who think there is a magic form of legal words that exempts them from the operation of normal laws (including putting weird punctuation in your name like "Malcom-Ieuan: Roberts", and arguing that all courts are Admiralty courts and have no jurisdiction on land - which is why they call themselves 'freemen on the land') . There is a Canadian case from a few years ago where the judge goes through the whole thing and demolishes it. https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html quote:This Court has developed a new awareness and understanding of a category of vexatious litigant. As we shall see, while there is often a lack of homogeneity, and some individuals or groups have no name or special identity, they (by their own admission or by descriptions given by others) often fall into the following descriptions: Detaxers; Freemen or Freemen-on-the-Land; Sovereign Men or Sovereign Citizens; Church of the Ecumenical Redemption International (CERI); Moorish Law; and other labels - there is no closed list. In the absence of a better moniker, I have collectively labelled them as Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument litigants [“OPCA litigants”], to functionally define them collectively for what they literally are. These persons employ a collection of techniques and arguments promoted and sold by ‘gurus’ (as hereafter defined) to disrupt court operations and to attempt to frustrate the legal rights of governments, corporations, and individuals.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 13:38 |
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V for Vegas posted:Sovereign citizens - batshit crazy people who think there is a magic form of legal words that exempts them from the operation of normal laws (including putting weird punctuation in your name like "Malcom-Ieuan: Roberts", and arguing that all courts are Admiralty courts and have no jurisdiction on land - which is why they call themselves 'freemen on the land') . There is a Canadian case from a few years ago where the judge goes through the whole thing and demolishes it. That's a long definition of "Idiots who admire their own rights above others, in all ways", but I like it nonetheless.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 14:36 |
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so, we elected a Freemen-on-the-land to the senate?
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 14:41 |
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I for one am looking forward to seeing what kind of legislation the Liberals can put together that satisfies themselves, One Nation, NXT, Bob Day, and Hinch or Lionhelmet all at once.
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wayne curr posted:so, we elected a Freemen-on-the-land to the senate? Maybe his swearing in won't be valid because the flags were not the right type or something.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 22:38 |
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Yaaaaaaaaay people are actually calling out Bill Leak for his shittiness. And bonus - they're also asking "how could this have been published" https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/aug/04/bill-leak-accused-of-racism-in-insulting-cartoon-on-indigenous-parenting But don't worry, people who really know what racism is have Bill's back! Cory Bernardi posted:South Australian senator Cory Bernardi responded to Scullion’s comments in a statement to the ABC, saying there were “too many Je suis Charlie hypocrites”, a reference to the millions of tweets posted after the attack on the Paris magazine, Charlie Hebdo in January 2015. With CB behind you, you can't go wrong!
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 00:21 |
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Bill Leak's response. Checkmate SJWs.
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 00:40 |
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He added shoes.
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 00:43 |
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And made the cop white...
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 00:44 |
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Will nobody come to the defense of the poor nationally-syndicated cartoonist?
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 00:45 |
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 00:50 |
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e:nevermind I'm dumb and can't follow a story.
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V for Vegas posted:Bill Leak's response. Checkmate SJWs. Is this like Garfield where the joke is the same in every cartoon?
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 00:53 |
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We've got to fight fire with fire and use their own power's against them As a mother, I'm scared and think Bill Leak is a piece of poo poo and shouldn't be allowed in this country
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 00:53 |
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Aboriginal people need to take personal responsibility for their actions! This is all the lefty PC police's fault for taking my cartoon too seriously!
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 00:55 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Yaaaaaaaaay people are actually calling out Bill Leak for his shittiness. And bonus - they're also asking "how could this have been published" Charlie Hebdo is also a racist piece of trash publication though?
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 01:03 |
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Getting killed in a terrorist attack is equivalent to criticism for being racist. Got it.
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 01:14 |
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Amoeba102 posted:Getting killed in a terrorist attack is equivalent to criticism for being racist. Got it. holy poo poo check out the edgelord here
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 01:37 |
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He might have a point in possible hypocrisy with CH support but it doesn't make him right.
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 01:44 |
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Weren't same sort of people were bending over backwards to explain why Charlie Hebdo was actually racist at the time? I don't remember it getting a lot of support from the crowd Leak is mocking in his second cartoon.
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 01:54 |
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France has a massively marginalised Islamic population so like thats cool I'm glad that ~us white people~ are in a position to tell minority stakeholders to just pull their collective socks up and stop being so gosh darn offended all the time like when a flag is burnt I guess. I mean I love how in the Pope cartoon, Bill Leak is wearing white-lensed glasses, I thought it was subtle as hell.
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 01:54 |
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also you prob should do some introspection if you find yourself agreeing with notable politician Cory Bernadi
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 01:55 |
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I don't agree with him though? I think the comparison is conflating obvious racism (Leak) with something more complex (CH).
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 01:58 |
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It is in no way hypocritical to think the killing of some racist cartoonists is bad, while also condemning the work of some other racist cartoonist.
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# ? Aug 5, 2016 01:58 |
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Who do you think is agreeing with Bernadi/Leak?open24hours posted:Weren't same sort of people were bending over backwards to explain why Charlie Hebdo was actually racist at the time? I don't remember it getting a lot of support from the crowd Leak is mocking in his second cartoon. I agree. He's raised it as his defence as though his critics have no critical thought of their own and merely throw their weight behind the trend of the day. He's got a point but there is a hell of a lot of supplementary context alongside CH/#JeSuisCharlie, and even if he is correct there that doesn't make him right.
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