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henkman posted:i would go nashors -> cooldown boots(since the bonus AP is critical into this build) -> lich bane. next up i would probably pickup the hextech gunblade, then i would start doing variations. put statikk shiv into it, then a wits end. right now your build has hard hits but hard hits will only get you so far in overall DPS. with this, you have some crit AD synergy with hextech + statikk shiv, but more importantly, you have 35% CDR, multiple sources of magic damage(wits end, nashors, statikk shiv, lich bane, plus your spells) and 3 attack speed items. hm, personally i was thinking a movespeed heavy iceborn gauntlet muramana build to capitalize on roaming, but i guess that is alright too.. if you are a circus clown. suck my balls Ulio posted:What's a fun support to play in ranked? I know support isn't that fun in ranked but meh. I enjoy playing the role because its more relaxing compared to mid which I normally play. for ranked if you are at lower elos just pick something aggressive with high damage and gently caress up the enemy support who probably has no idea what they are doing and got shafted into the role by xSoulAssassin7x the guy who only plays zed and talon. you can even go so far as playing pantheon for this matter. i recommend blitzcrank or the aforementioned zyra. karma is also pretty fun pog boyfriend fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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henkman posted:stattik shiv and lichbane have a lot of movespeed maybe, and do not get me wrong i love shivcore goku builds, but investing too heavily on attack speed/damage as bard mid seems detrimental to his overall strengths. i was thinking like a bruiser/roam build with mobis and dead mans plate, then like ludens echo into abyssal..? the build order is definitely wrong and i will have to think about it some more, but i definitely want to catch people out and gently caress them up then ult people who try to rotate on me and run away spamming champion mastery
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pog boyfriend posted:for ranked if you are at lower elos just pick something aggressive with high damage and gently caress up the enemy support who probably has no idea what they are doing and got shafted into the role by xSoulAssassin7x the guy who only plays zed and talon. you can even go so far as playing pantheon for this matter. i recommend blitzcrank or the aforementioned zyra. karma is also pretty fun Im plat3 most adc's whine if u try something crazy like Pantheon but I have successfully played Volibear support which is pretty decent if they dont have lots of kiting. Blitzcrank is good too I have the most games on him this season. I will tryout Zyra I completely forgot about her but whenever I have her in a game she seems to outdamage even the midlaners.
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Ulio posted:Im plat3 most adc's whine if u try something crazy like Pantheon but I have successfully played Volibear support which is pretty decent if they dont have lots of kiting. those guys are whiny motherfuckers, the most fun i ever had was in a pretty mid elo normals game with goons, i had palladion on my team and he wanted to try dorans blade support fiora and we just hosed them up at level 1 and snowballed the game until they surrendered at 20
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Ulio posted:Im plat3 most adc's whine if u try something crazy like Pantheon but I have successfully played Volibear support which is pretty decent if they dont have lots of kiting. Janna Soraka and Taric are all strong picks that seem to go under the ban radar and they fill in the holes you often find in platinum teamcomps that contain 4 damage retards with little or no cc/utility I actually max Q first on Soraka now because it has so much poo poo lumped into it now. Maxing it first makes you have appreciable damage in lane and much stronger self regen to keep dumping on your ADC and you can legitimately threaten the enemy AD by dropping enough Qs on them to poke them out of lane. pog boyfriend posted:those guys are whiny motherfuckers, the most fun i ever had was in a pretty mid elo normals game with goons, i had palladion on my team and he wanted to try dorans blade support fiora and we just hosed them up at level 1 and snowballed the game until they surrendered at 20 this is cool and all but please do not do this in ranked How Rude fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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spellthiefs into full tank max cdr support twisted fate is not only fun, but also good. you actually max Q first for the lane harass instead of W tho.
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JuniperCake posted:Personally, I'd rather see them go back to having dodges cost you more lp than actual losses do. Was it ever like that? Man, that'd make me get the gently caress out of ranked for good.
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Libertine posted:If you play Bard Mid my recommended build is that you kill yourself. Yeah if you're gonna play Bard in a nonstandard role that role is jungle.
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How Rude posted:I actually max Q first on Soraka now because it has so much poo poo lumped into it now. Maxing it first makes you have appreciable damage in lane and much stronger self regen to keep dumping on your ADC and you can legitimately threaten the enemy AD by dropping enough Qs on them to poke them out of lane. Is this the norm now? I thought u always had to max heal on Soraka.
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Libertine posted:If you play Bard Mid my recommended build is that you kill yourself. libertine you need to think about the words you are saying. yeah it seems funny now but if you say it to the wrong person you might put them over the edge, and then they will haunt you for all eternity as a ghost. i do not know about you, but i think ghosts are pretty scary How Rude posted:this is cool and all but please do not do this in ranked i mean it would probably suck absolute dick if you tried to do that and did not get first blood but it is really funny if they walk into one of your bushes and eat poo poo
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i like to imagine the ceo of riot games one day after rolling out of his bed made of 100 dollar bills looked at lyte parading around the forums with his army of fanboys farming upvotes, got pissed, and stormed out of the room and demanded lyte tell him what the gently caress was going on before telling him to publicly resign. it is probably not what actually happened but it is my headcanon
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Ulio posted:What's a fun support to play in ranked? I know support isn't that fun in ranked but meh. I enjoy playing the role because its more relaxing compared to mid which I normally play. If you don't like making people dance and sustaining your entire team through a teamfight and running away from melee champs while cackling and bursting an ADC for half their health at level one then yeah i guess sona is pretty boring.
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pog boyfriend posted:i like to imagine the ceo of riot games one day after rolling out of his bed made of 100 dollar bills looked at lyte parading around the forums with his army of fanboys farming upvotes, got pissed, and stormed out of the room and demanded lyte tell him what the gently caress was going on before telling him to publicly resign. it is probably not what actually happened but it is my headcanon and when he sulked out of the office with his cubicle box he overhears the cigar chompin' boss laugh with his esports pals going "what a LYTEWEIGHT!"
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rabidsquid posted:spellthiefs into full tank max cdr support twisted fate is not only fun, but also good. you actually max Q first for the lane harass instead of W tho. I think ADC TF is the only build you max W over Q ever.
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Ulio posted:What's a fun support to play in ranked? I know support isn't that fun in ranked but meh. I enjoy playing the role because its more relaxing compared to mid which I normally play. Play Leona. Always be asking yourself "why am I not in their face loving them up". Ward extensively and stay near your teammates, and if you catch someone, go all in and hope your teammate kills them.
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Ulio posted:Is this the norm now? I thought u always had to max heal on Soraka.
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Kashuno posted:Yeah if you're gonna play Bard in a nonstandard role that role is jungle. No.
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Ulio posted:Is this the norm now? I thought u always had to max heal on Soraka. R > Q > W > E is the skill order imo because the Q self healing scales with rank, which if you land can now transfer to an ally as well as doing more damage and slowing the enemy. It's really strong because it gives you more overall sustain as well as damage in lane most of the time though as soon as lane ends you will want to stop ranking Q and start putting more points into W as someone above me said
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Oh ya I completely forgot about the q making your heals stronger I guess that makes sense. I hadn't played her in a since she got nerfed or balanced a few patches ago.With all the %healing boosts in the game she is still strong imo.
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Sexpansion posted:
I feel like they count kill participation cause when you have a team that just runs a train of killing all game everyone gets the S/S+, whereas when it's two separate carries with like 2 assists each no one seems to get the S+
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Endorph posted:96 CS He's the jungler, he shouldn't be making more CS unless he steals from laners
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How Rude posted:He's the jungler, he shouldn't be making more CS unless he steals from laners
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yeah, but the algorithm just looks at the best possible scores in every category. if some random jarvan iv sits in the jungle for 30 minutes and gets 200 cs, that's the bar that's set for the best possible jungle jarvan iv CS. it doesn't use logic, it literally just looks at the highest scores in every category and compares your score to those.
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proof that taxing your idiot laners is objectively correct ty riot
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pog boyfriend posted:for ranked if you are at lower elos just pick something aggressive with high damage and gently caress up the enemy support who probably has no idea what they are doing and got shafted into the role by xSoulAssassin7x the guy who only plays zed and talon. you can even go so far as playing pantheon for this matter. i recommend blitzcrank or the aforementioned zyra. karma is also pretty fun Problem is these people would do the same and you'll either have to outplay them which could be dangerous or make them regret not buying a support item and wait until they suffer from the lack of gold, this requires not dying repeatedly though.
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I still max W on Soraka because I land about 30% of my Qs The More You Know™
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does anyone ever build the red sightstone item? i see people in competitive and probuilds do it but it seems like the extra cost cripples your ability to stack item actives in the first place.
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mirrorquiz posted:does anyone ever build the red sightstone item? i see people in competitive and probuilds do it but it seems like the extra cost cripples your ability to stack item actives in the first place. I agree with you. I did a bunch after I saw it in pro. I even advocated for it in terms of Talisman/Redstone Thresh. Now I think it cripples your income curve really badly. I think it's suboptimal totally because of that and went back to rushing the Eye/Stone items into a much greater gold pool of secondary utility/CDR items.
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Endorph posted:yeah, but the algorithm just looks at the best possible scores in every category. if some random jarvan iv sits in the jungle for 30 minutes and gets 200 cs, that's the bar that's set for the best possible jungle jarvan iv CS. it doesn't use logic, it literally just looks at the highest scores in every category and compares your score to those. Pretty much this. I don't think its actually possible to get an S rank on any hero without at the bar minimum 100 CS. I'd add "except supports" but I've never gotten an S rank supporting, even if I buy support items, get a good score, and do it on an unconventional hero. Basically, just play assassins and steal as much CS as possible. Your teammates will hate you and you'll probably be useless, but in the long run you'll have mastery emote and skins you wont be able to use for a month. And thats what really matters.
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K8.0 posted:You have to understand how the system works. It looks at all games played with a given champion in a given role, puts a bunch of stats weighted by role into a formula and comes up with a score for each game. To get X rank you have to score in the top Y% of games for that champion in that role. tldr if you play a champion that can potentially do everything in one game, you will probably have to do everything since you're competing against people who did. There are no hard and fast numbers other than the weighting for various metrics (which we don't know), aside from that it's all how you performed relative to other people playing the same champion in the same role.
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Every time I play a melee champ into a ranged champ in lane I get absolutely decimated. Any tips for handling those sort of matchups? Fiora into Quinn. Ekko into Ahri. Fizz into any ranged mid. That sort of thing. Also I am bad at league of legends.
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amazeballs posted:Every time I play a melee champ into a ranged champ in lane I get absolutely decimated. Any tips for handling those sort of matchups? Fiora into Quinn. Ekko into Ahri. Fizz into any ranged mid. That sort of thing. Also I am bad at league of legends. post your league name
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buy corrupting potion, take 0/18/12 as mid melee, and take teleport. learn to bait out their skills so you can farm. walk up near the minions to bait an auto attack to make minions auto attack them. just learn to trade melee versus ranged. ask a buddy who is higher elo to 1v1 with you and you will learn a ton
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