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cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Magic Underwear posted:

All the kids were forced to go to the same college?
Location of an undergrad degree doesn't matter.

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Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


I have an aunt and uncle that did that. Five kids, all within a six year age span, and all went to the same (good) state university. They bought a duplex when the oldest started, and all five kids lived there with various combinations of roommates. Sold at a nice profit after the youngest graduated.

Double Rabite
Mar 30, 2010

Typical Saturday night dance party.

JohnGalt posted:

Buying a house in college isnt the worst thing if youre going to be living in it + renting rooms. Dorms charge like 8-12 thousand a year to live in a glorified prison cell.

During my time as a grad student (about 8 years ago), I personally knew four people that successfully pulled this off. Three with the help of their parents, one (who was in his thirties) by themselves. The thing is that the city I lived in was about 25% college students so rent was incredibly expensive, but buying a house was relatively cheap. For example mortgages was about $600 for a 3 unit place and you could easily charge $350 per room. These arrangements ended up being way cheaper for the renter so it was a win-win. Basically it amounted to free rent for the owner and a cheaper place to live for the tenant. The caveat was that all the people were really good at networking and as such, usually new their ternate for a couple of months before renting to them.

Magic Underwear
May 14, 2003


Young Orc

cowofwar posted:

Location of an undergrad degree doesn't matter.

This is such a bizarre response. For one, it does matter, at least at the high end. Yale looks a lot better than Eastern Missouri Polytechnic. Secondly, even if it didn't matter for employment, that's an argument for more freedom to choose a college that you like for its location, atmosphere, student body etc. Unless you mean to claim that every college is exactly identical, so might as well pick one and buy a house there and force all your children to go there no matter what. Which makes no sense.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
"Landlord to a college student rental" is a horrible job for a college graduate.

It's GWM if you have the luck to ride a rising housing market and sell it the day you graduate, in my opinion.

Reminds me of my med student buddy in Louisville. There's a local credit union that loves to lend to med students for home loans since they have a near zero default rate. Dozens and dozens of students buy houses with the expectation that their peers will rent from them, but it pretty much just ended up with everybody owning their own house since they wanted to be the smart one paying their mortgage with the rent checks while their sucker friends ~threw money away~ on rent.

He graduates this year and is just going to sell his house, doesn't care if it's at a loss, because gently caress living in Louisville a day longer than you have to.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Magic Underwear posted:

This is such a bizarre response. For one, it does matter, at least at the high end. Yale looks a lot better than Eastern Missouri Polytechnic. Secondly, even if it didn't matter for employment, that's an argument for more freedom to choose a college that you like for its location, atmosphere, student body etc. Unless you mean to claim that every college is exactly identical, so might as well pick one and buy a house there and force all your children to go there no matter what. Which makes no sense.

Most comparisons fall apart at the extremes, for either elite schools or schools with top programs in a certain program.

It's bad with money if a student can pay in-state tuition where they live at, say, University of Florida but decides that they'd rather pay 3-4x as much to go to school at University of Washington because they *~*~fell in love with Seattle~*~*.
Especially if there's no meaningful difference between the rankings for their chosen programs.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Well, let's take it back to the original context. I think we can all agree that you shouldn't buy a house if you can only afford $100/month in food.

this we can definitely agree on

dude seems to have a good enough deal going on for now, he just needs to finish school

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Haifisch posted:

He lives in the UK, apparently. I'm not sure what home prices are like there, but I'd be shocked if he could afford one.

Ahahahaha!

Also UK house prices are predicted to tank due to Brexit bursting the property bubble, so now is the best time to buy!

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost
Another lottery winner turned crackhead:

quote:

Lottery millionaire jailed for trafficking crack cocaine

ST. CATHARINES, Ont. - At the age of 24, Daniel Carley became a millionaire by winning $5 million on a lottery scratch ticket.

Now 35, Carley is broke and on Wednesday he was sent to jail for two and a half years after being convicted of trafficking in crack cocaine.

Defence lawyer Ron Charlebois said winning the lottery was the worst thing that could of happened to his client because he got into drugs, including cocaine and heroin, and he became an addict.

"He has lost everything primarily from people taking advantage of him. He sold drugs to support his habit," Charlebois told Judge Richard Lococo at a sentencing hearing on Wednesday in the Superior Court of Justice in St. Catharines.

On Nov. 6, 2013, Carley was one of more than two dozen people who were arrested after a nine-month investigation into biker gang activity in the Niagara area.

That investigation — dubbed Project Resurgence — involved more than 220 police officers from a number of different police services that began investigating the activities of the Outlaws and Black Pistons motorcycle gangs.

Police uncovered evidence of narcotics trafficking, including heroin, cocaine and marijuana, along with evidence of weapons trafficking, break and enter, assault, extortion and participating in a criminal organization.

Some of the items seized included $70,000 in cash, $150,000 worth of vehicles, marijuana with a potential street value of $18 million, $30,000 in heroin and a variety of weapons.

A number of individuals who were arrested in connection with Project Resurgence have already had their cases dealt with by the courts, a few are still before the courts.

Federal prosecutor Niall Gilks said the two and a half year jail sentence being proposed was a joint submission that fell within an acceptable range for this type of an offence.

During the investigation, Carley was heard on wiretaps conducting a number of drug transactions with individuals calling him to purchase drugs.

The Crown said Carley, who had no previous criminal record, was dealing at the lower end involving an ounce or less of crack cocaine. He noted a considerable amount of court time was saved because Carley had entered a guilty plea.

Court heard Carley is separated, but helps to support a seven-year-old child. He has completed his high school education and since his arrest has tried to rehabilitate himself.

The Crown withdrew some other charges that were still before the courts.

One issue that still needs to be resolved involves the property at 80 Page St., in St. Catharines, which served as the club house for the Black Pistons. That property, which is owned by Carley through a numbered company, had been secured with metal bars on the windows and doors and was also equipped with closed circuit video television.

Switchback
Jul 23, 2001

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

You are probably gonna get a bunch of vitamin deficiencies but raw calories are pretty abundant in cheap form, like garbage ramen noodles cost 18 cents per pack if you buy them in bulk, assuming you eat three meals of them a day (:barf:) that's only ~$16 a month, leaving enough left over to buy some vitamin supplements and/or pay for treatment of your crippling rickets and scurvy

e: Also heart disease, if you're a girl:

quote:

The consumption of instant noodles was associated with increased prevalence of metabolic syndrome in women, independent of major dietary patterns.

:smith: :smith:

I resist eating instant noodles because they are so bad for you and I don't want to get diabetis but god drat it's my favorite food. If I could eat ramen all day every day I'd be happier than a tornado in a trailer park.

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Ahahahaha!

Also UK house prices are predicted to tank due to Brexit bursting the property bubble, so now is the best time to buy!
My homeowner friends in London all have interest-only mortgages. Real estate only goes up Up UP!

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

quote:


:smith: :smith:

I resist eating instant noodles because they are so bad for you and I don't want to get diabetis but god drat it's my favorite food. If I could eat ramen all day every day I'd be happier than a tornado in a trailer park.

My homeowner friends in London all have interest-only mortgages. Real estate only goes up Up UP!

Eating Ramen noodles 3 times a day is very unlikely to give you diabetes. You're more likely to get heart disease. So if you have a family history of strong hearts and access to a daily multi-vitamin, then live the GWM dream!

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Well, let's take it back to the original context. I think we can all agree that you shouldn't buy a house if you can only afford $100/month in food.

But did you look at his math, it practically pays for itself!!

Switchback
Jul 23, 2001

"My mom needs serious help (losing ~$1200/mo) posted:

Hey personal finance,
My mom (separated) is having serious trouble staying afloat right now, and is going into debt. I've been listening to how she spends money, and I can't find any way to reduce spending.
I know there may be threads that may have addressed some of this, but she and I are panicking.
After taxes, she takes home $3700 a month.
Expenses: $2300 credit card -$350 on groceries -$150 dining out -$125 on gas -$250 on clothes (for me) -$35 on electricity -various medications $1080 on rent $500 on very, very basic health insurance (it is very important to her that she kept her doctor) $525 on my tuition (I go to boarding school) $300 into savings every year $115 on phone $150 on cable $102 on car insurance $125 on gas
Please help us trim down her budget, she is losing money. But at the same time, she is also living very minimally. It's basically little stuff that adds up to the massive credit card bills.
Thanks~
EDIT: Thank you all for the responses.
I forgot one very important piece of information: She has $35,000 in savings as of now, but she has to cut into it $1200 every month.
I did make a few mistakes I want to clarify. 1. The clothes were a one time thing, not a monthly cost. 2. She does not dine out at all during the year.
She also mentioned that her health plan is one of the cheapest she could get, and as for her credit card, apparently "things just rack up". It could very well be she needs to get a second job.
If you have any other suggestions, I would love to hear them. Thanks for the help so far.

quote:

Sorry, I'm not good at all this. She is charging $2300 on the credit card each month and paying it in full. Everything miscellaneous that she buys and I buy goes on the card. Neither of us tend to be big spenders, but I guess it adds up. In the post you can see a few charges that are on the card, such as gas, prescriptions, and whatnot

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

Stop buying candles.

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

Breetai posted:

Stop buying candles.

"it was only for that one month mom, GEEZ GET OFF MY BACK!"

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good



If only the law allowed cable plans to be cancelled. Alas, there is no simply way to relieve this $1,800/year burden for the rest of their lives.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

pig slut lisa posted:

If only the law allowed cable plans to be cancelled. Alas, there is no simply way to relieve this $1,800/year burden for the rest of their lives.

You're kind of joking but you can get into like 3 year cable contracts

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

cowofwar posted:

Location of an undergrad degree doesn't matter.

I'd really like to hear your explanation for this.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Based on the math and the way he describes it...if clothing dropped to, say $50 a month, cable was cut off, and CREDIT CARDS WERE USED ONLY IN EMERGENCIES...they'd be OK. If they cut boarding school, they'd be in pretty good shape.

They basically have to become cash people. But they should be comfortable enough.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I'm the $300 that goes into savings once a year

Also if he's going to boarding school (which, presumably, comes with room and board? right? I don't get private schools man) and she doesn't eat out where the hell is that $150 coming from.

ohgodwhat
Aug 6, 2005

I don't know how boarding school is only $600 a month. I've seen it be 10x that amount and that was years ago.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Maybe it's a not good boarding school and/or they have some need-based or academic scholarship to reduce the cost?

ohgodwhat
Aug 6, 2005

Very good point, but that sounds GWM so I'm not sure they could do that.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Don't have to be GWM if the school requires income info and automatically assigns you aid below a threshold.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Guy just started his first job and has been living with his parents. His work is providing a "one day only" special grant of "up to" 36k if you buy a house and live in it for at least 5 years.

In the comments he says he is in the process of closing on a 230k house in Baltimore and hasn't checked to see how much of the "up to" 36k he qualifies for.

He makes 35k a year and if he is fired from his job in the next 5 years he has to pay whatever he got from the grant back.

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/4vnsoo/my_work_is_having_a_oneday_event_where_they_are/

quote:

My work is having a one-day event where they are offering a $36k grant for home purchase. Never owned a house before. Which questions should I be asking?

Some background from me: I'm a 27-year-old male who has never owned or rented a home. I've recently been given a full-time research position, and in brilliantly coincidental timing, my work is having a one-day-only event in September where they are offering grants up to $36k towards purchasing homes in the vicinity of the hospital.

Here's a link to some info on the event: http://hopkinsworklife.org/housing_relocation/lnyw/

I won't lie, I'm wary, but it sounds like an enticing opportunity to make a property investment in what I feel will be a developing area. But having never owned or rented before, I don't quite know where to start.
Which questions should I be asking to point myself in the right direction? I have a full-time job and a part-time one, and few expenses of my own. How should I gauge what I can and cannot afford? How do grants like these factor into taxes? Is there any particular party that I should contact about mortgages who will give me unbiased information?
Hope you guys can point me in the right direction to start asking informed questions!

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Aug 5, 2016

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

quote:

I won't lie, I'm wary, but it sounds like an enticing opportunity to make a property investment in what I feel will be a developing area.

That is a lot of red flags for a single sentence

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

so you're telling me, that the more I buy... the more I save??

Sepherothic
Feb 8, 2003

OMGVBFLOL posted:

so you're telling me, that the more I buy... the more I save??

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/4wcauc/poker_player_looking_for_a_career_change_i_feel/

Poker playing bro spends $8k/month, wants to change careers. Good luck

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

quote:

From 18-22 I net-profited $30,000 online while going to school, just playing small stakes part time. I basically lived off of this with the help of my parents while going to school yet still graduated with $70,000 of student loan debt. Online poker became obsolete in the US (this is an entire different subject) so I started playing in casinos and card rooms while working an entry level management job.

I lasted 1 year with my $55,000 salary and quit. I turned to poker full time at 24.

This is where the mistakes began.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

He's making $15k a month working 40 hours a week playing a game and wants to stop because he's miserable.

How fun does he think actual work is?

E: VVV Again, though, compare it to actual work. And to make $15k/month, he'd probably have to work a job that required massive amounts of overtime.

WampaLord fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Aug 5, 2016

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal
There's no way that playing poker 30-40 hours a week is enjoyable, especially when your livelihood relies upon it.

I wonder if he's paying his taxes.

Aagar
Mar 30, 2006

E/N Gestapo
I am talking to a mod right now about getting you probated/banned/gassed

Barry posted:

There's no way that playing poker 30-40 hours a week is enjoyable, especially when your livelihood relies upon it.

I wonder if he's paying his taxes.

He says further down that he reports all winnings and pays tax.

And making that kind of money consistently? Wampalord is right - how much fun does he think real work is? I would happily ruin the fun of a game or hobby if I made that much at it.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

cowofwar posted:

Location of an undergrad degree doesn't matter.

Yeah this is definitely not true.

Switchback
Jul 23, 2001

Residency Evil posted:

Yeah this is definitely not true.
I guess it matters for personal finance reasons (in state vs out of state, scholarships vs paying all out of pocket) and whether they have the actual degree you want (for example in Meteorology, a degree in Atmospheric Science is more valuable than a degree in Geography with a certificate in Meteorology, which is common). But in general, for most people, it doesn't matter where you go to college, students who attended more selective colleges earned about the same as students of seemingly comparable ability who attended less selective schools, as long as you don't major in liberal arts. Who you are matters more for career potential than where you go to undergrad.

Sokani
Jul 20, 2006



Bison

So, uhh, did you actually read these?

Edit: Or maybe Im the one who needs to read them

Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Guy just started his first job and has been living with his parents. His work is providing a "one day only" special grant of "up to" 36k if you buy a house and live in it for at least 5 years.

In the comments he says he is in the process of closing on a 230k house in Baltimore and hasn't checked to see how much of the "up to" 36k he qualifies for.

He makes 35k a year and if he is fired from his job in the next 5 years he has to pay whatever he got from the grant back.

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/4vnsoo/my_work_is_having_a_oneday_event_where_they_are/
Buying a house in Baltimore is its own kind of hosed up. Because the borderline neighborhoods where you can buy cheap row houses can go to poo poo or gentrify in a couple years. Your $200k house could be worth $200.00 or $400k in 5 years. Better hope the mayor picks your neighborhood as the next project. Or else he might cut services to your neighborhood to pay for his next project.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

WampaLord posted:

He's making $15k a month working 40 hours a week playing a game and wants to stop because he's miserable.

How fun does he think actual work is?

E: VVV Again, though, compare it to actual work. And to make $15k/month, he'd probably have to work a job that required massive amounts of overtime.

People whose stories I read who left pro poker behind usually chalk it up to something somewhere between "feeling useless to the world" and "feeling like an actual bad person".

After the 10th month in a row you see some old dude sit down with his social security check, and it's your job to take all of it from him, and that's all you're doing all day every day, that's what you're spending your life and all your mental energy doing, just taking money people really should be spending on other things, without contributing anything useful or productive to the world, that'll wear out anyone with a conscience sooner or later.

Throw in the wild swings of chance you have to ride out as just being part of the life, being up or down tens of thousands of dollars within the same year, and I've got no problem seeing why people burn out on it and move on.

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

OMGVBFLOL posted:

People whose stories I read who left pro poker behind usually chalk it up to something somewhere between "feeling useless to the world" and "feeling like an actual bad person".

After the 10th month in a row you see some old dude sit down with his social security check, and it's your job to take all of it from him, and that's all you're doing all day every day, that's what you're spending your life and all your mental energy doing, just taking money people really should be spending on other things, without contributing anything useful or productive to the world, that'll wear out anyone with a conscience sooner or later.

Throw in the wild swings of chance you have to ride out as just being part of the life, being up or down tens of thousands of dollars within the same year, and I've got no problem seeing why people burn out on it and move on.

So....Sales?

I'm not making GBS threads you, this is Sales 101.

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grenada
Apr 20, 2013
Relax.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Guy just started his first job and has been living with his parents. His work is providing a "one day only" special grant of "up to" 36k if you buy a house and live in it for at least 5 years.

In the comments he says he is in the process of closing on a 230k house in Baltimore and hasn't checked to see how much of the "up to" 36k he qualifies for.

He makes 35k a year and if he is fired from his job in the next 5 years he has to pay whatever he got from the grant back.

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/4vnsoo/my_work_is_having_a_oneday_event_where_they_are/

Well, it is GWM for Johns Hopkins, because the hospital is in a pretty terrible part of Baltimore.I'm guessing they did some analysis and figured that jumpstarting gentrification around the hospital would be cheaper in the long term than their continuing to invest large amounts of money in their security service.

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