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FrozenVent: May 1, 2009; The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Grouchio posted:

It could tamper with my qualifications for CIA analysis applications in a few years time, since I hadn't unintentionally illegally downloaded :files: for over a year, and that this could accidentally reset that time period.

...how the gently caress does the CIA hire anyone ever?

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BonerGhost: Mar 9, 2007

FrozenVent posted:

...how the gently caress does the CIA hire anyone ever?

They kind of don't, and/or people just lie. Same way for the other agencies.

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doverhog: May 31, 2013; Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Why the hell would the CIA do that? Wouldn't a person who is a savvy rogue on the tubes be a better analyst than some dweeb who never touches a file? Is the test that you are supposed to do it, and then be smart enough to lie about?

# ? Aug 5, 2016 02:54

Grouchio: Aug 31, 2014

FrozenVent posted:

...how the gently caress does the CIA hire anyone ever?

Something like this?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maseena...s/#206bb09e2201

# ? Aug 5, 2016 02:58

xxEightxx: Mar 5, 2010; Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!; Salad Prong

I thought the CIA isn't even an agency really anymore, all the critical stuff gets done by agencies you haven't heard of that have innocuous names, because let's face it, a spy agency that everyone has heard of is a pretty lovely spy agency.

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Grouchio: Aug 31, 2014

I wonder if there are any other well-paying/effective federal jobs besides the CIA/FBI for graduate students and beyond. Economic/political thinktanks/foreign affairs entry-level jobs are things I am also considering. Also if I were to apply to such a job, should I wait before, during or after grad school to apply? I also ask because I am highly aware of their extremely thin acceptance rate and criteria standards - I could be rejected simply because I used to :filez:

until over a year ago. (And how strict does that rule apply anyway? Does bad filesharing extend to inter-forum picture postings/poo poo off google too!? :psyduck:

) Basically I wonder if it's even worth cutting chunks off my lifestyle just to hope to apply.

# ? Aug 5, 2016 08:35

Dead Reckoning: Sep 13, 2011

Although some state and federal background checks are hilariously intrusive, the people doing the screening are aware that there is no such thing as a perfect candidate. You can read the adjudication decisions at http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/ to get an idea of how the cases are adjudicated. The three letter agencies will have their own bizarro criteria beyond the normal background process, which they don't tell anyone about.

Depending on the agency in question, they may only ask about certain criminal acts, or they may ask if you've ever committed any act amounting to a felony or misdemeanor. Even in the latter case, I doubt they would expect you to list out every time you have driven more than 10 MPH above the speed limit, or every time you've watched a video on PornHub that was uploaded without the permission of the original creator. While downloading a photo without the artist's permission is apparently illegal, it's also such ridiculously small potatoes that I highly doubt the CIA would care. It would be a different story if you were hosting a Pirate Bay mirror or something.

I would apply anyway. If you make it as far as backgrounds, be truthful and as detailed as you feel the question warrants. The worst they can say is "no."

xxEightxx posted:

I thought the CIA isn't even an agency really anymore, all the critical stuff gets done by agencies you haven't heard of that have innocuous names, because let's face it, a spy agency that everyone has heard of is a pretty lovely spy agency.

It's not as though case officers walk around Prague with a CIA Junior G-Man badge in their pocket.

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euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

Grouchio posted:

I wonder if there are any other well-paying/effective federal jobs besides the CIA/FBI for graduate students and beyond. Economic/political thinktanks/foreign affairs entry-level jobs are things I am also considering. Also if I were to apply to such a job, should I wait before, during or after grad school to apply? I also ask because I am highly aware of their extremely thin acceptance rate and criteria standards - I could be rejected simply because I used to until over a year ago. (And how strict does that rule apply anyway? Does bad filesharing extend to inter-forum picture postings/poo poo off google too!? ) Basically I wonder if it's even worth cutting chunks off my lifestyle just to hope to apply.

If you want a federal gov job you should join the military now and put 5 years in or whatever the minimum stint is.

Unless you are going the professional route in which case be in the top of your class at a highly regarded school.

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EwokEntourage: Jun 10, 2008; BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

Have you considered taking the foreign service exam?

# ? Aug 5, 2016 14:16

Motronic: Nov 6, 2009

Dead Reckoning posted:

While downloading a photo without the artist's permission is apparently illegal, it's also such ridiculously small potatoes that I highly doubt the CIA would care.

And being this balled up about it virtually ensures failing the psych exam.

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George Sex - REAL: Dec 1, 2005; Bisssssssexual

I have a youtube channel I run under a character whose Christian name is LearningAnex Dotcom. The majority of the content on my channel is hard absurdist bullshit premised as instructional content. If the brick and mortar institution known as The Learning Annex got wind of the garbage I make, would they have real grounds to have me stop?

I appreciate the advice. This thread has yet to steer me wrong!

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Jeb Bush 2012: Apr 4, 2007; A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

Stupid hypothetical: if someone were to go into a police station and give a signed confession that they'd committed a felony, but not say which one, could they be charged and what with? More generally, if you know someone committed a crime, but can't be sure of any specific crime they've committed (say, you have footage of them in one place, and later in another, and the only way they could have gotten from one to the other in time is if they either drove way over the speed limit or trespassed), what can you do?

# ? Aug 6, 2016 00:17

EwokEntourage: Jun 10, 2008; BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

Stupid hypothetical: if someone were to go into a police station and give a signed confession that they'd committed a felony, but not say which one, could they be charged and what with? More generally, if you know someone committed a crime, but can't be sure of any specific crime they've committed (say, you have footage of them in one place, and later in another, and the only way they could have gotten from one to the other in time is if they either drove way over the speed limit or trespassed), what can you do?

1) Is the confession literally just "I committed felony" or what?
2) ask the police to investigate

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Jeb Bush 2012: Apr 4, 2007; A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

EwokEntourage posted:

1) Is the confession literally just "I committed felony" or what?
2) ask the police to investigate

1) Yes.
2) Assuming this is what the police came up with after investigating. (I'm guessing the answer there is just "the police drop it", so imagine the pair of crimes is, say, murder/treason instead)

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EwokEntourage: Jun 10, 2008; BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

1) cops wouldn't/shouldn't let you confess to crime without specifying what it is and providing at least some details. I don't do crim law but I can't imagine a confession that doesn't specify what happened would stand up in court

2) if it's a major crime and they think person did it but can't prove it, they would just sit on it until new evidence or until it became a cold case I assumed

I know it's hypothetical, but it really lacks enough info to give a good answer

# ? Aug 6, 2016 00:57

Nakar: Sep 2, 2002; Ultima Ratio Regum

Cops are not going to waste their time letting you into their custody to sign a confession to an unspecified crime. They are going to ask you what you did first.

Attempting to do this just to gently caress with them could perhaps be filing a false report but more likely they'd just tell you to gently caress off, get out of their lobby, and stop wasting their time.

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joat mon: Oct 15, 2009; I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

Stupid hypothetical: if someone were to go into a police station and give a signed confession that they'd committed a felony, but not say which one, could they be charged and what with?

Confessions need to be corroborated. Confessions that don't confess anything can't be corroborated.
Charges need to provide notice to the accused as to what he/she is being charged with. Charges that don't charge anything don't provide notice.

The police would investigate, and depending on the mental state of your attempted confessor, could find all sorts of crimes to solve.

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

More generally, if you know someone committed a crime, but can't be sure of any specific crime they've committed (say, you have footage of them in one place, and later in another, and the only way they could have gotten from one to the other in time is if they either drove way over the speed limit or trespassed), what can you do?

Call the police? ( But with what you're offering, they'll think you're a crazy, tell you to come in and file a report, and either toss it or scan it and forget it)

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nm: Jan 28, 2008; "I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

Stupid hypothetical: if someone were to go into a police station and give a signed confession that they'd committed a felony, but not say which one, could they be charged and what with?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_delicti

quote:

More generally, if you know someone committed a crime, but can't be sure of any specific crime they've committed (say, you have footage of them in one place, and later in another, and the only way they could have gotten from one to the other in time is if they either drove way over the speed limit or trespassed), what can you do?

If you have a reasonable doubt that any element of a specific charged crime was committed, you can't do poo poo.
If you know someone either sped or trespassed (but not both), you have reasonable doubt for both.

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Jeb Bush 2012: Apr 4, 2007; A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

joat mon posted:

Call the police? ( But with what you're offering, they'll think you're a crazy, tell you to come in and file a report, and either toss it or scan it and forget it)

"You" there was supposed to mean the police/prosecutors, sorry.

nm posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_delicti

If you have a reasonable doubt that any element of a specific charged crime was committed, you can't do poo poo.
If you know someone either sped or trespassed (but not both), you have reasonable doubt for both.

Makes sense!

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Ibexaz: Jul 23, 2013; The faces he makes while posting are inexcusable! When he writes a post his face is like a troll double checking bones to see if there's any meat left! When I post I look like a peacock softly kissing a rose! Didn't his parents provide him with a posting mirror to practice forums faces growing up?

So me and my Fiance separated a few months back. She kicked me out of our condo (which we're both leased under) and became the sole resident.

We normally split the rent down the middle, 550 for the both of us. The month I got kicked out I paid my half, but the next two months I was unable to make payments due to an unlawful termination from my employer. After disputing with my employer I eventually got my job back, but at that point both my vehicles had broken down, my glasses had broken, I had bills piling up from other necessities, and I was eating one meal a day because that's all I could really afford. I was unable to assist with any rent payments until I got a stable base under my feet, accumulating with me paying 400$ this past month. September is the end of our lease, so I'll then be free to actually start looking for a place to live.

However, she's wanting me to pay her back retroactively for the payments I have missed. Now from what I understand, since we are joint tenants, we are both equally responsible for payments to ensure our landlord gets the proper amount due. However, considering I have been denied residency from the condo, and since the landlord has been receiving full payment, do I have any legal obligation to pay my ex back?

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WhiskeyJuvenile: Feb 15, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo

Ibexaz posted:

So me and my Fiance separated a few months back. She kicked me out of our condo (which we're both leased under) and became the sole resident.

We normally split the rent down the middle, 550 for the both of us. The month I got kicked out I paid my half, but the next two months I was unable to make payments due to an unlawful termination from my employer. After disputing with my employer I eventually got my job back, but at that point both my vehicles had broken down, my glasses had broken, I had bills piling up from other necessities, and I was eating one meal a day because that's all I could really afford. I was unable to assist with any rent payments until I got a stable base under my feet, accumulating with me paying 400$ this past month. September is the end of our lease, so I'll then be free to actually start looking for a place to live.

However, she's wanting me to pay her back retroactively for the payments I have missed. Now from what I understand, since we are joint tenants, we are both equally responsible for payments to ensure our landlord gets the proper amount due. However, considering I have been denied residency from the condo, and since the landlord has been receiving full payment, do I have any legal obligation to pay my ex back?

maybe

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joat mon: Oct 15, 2009; I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Ibexaz posted:

So me and my Fiance separated a few months back. She kicked me out of our condo (which we're both leased under) and became the sole resident.

We normally split the rent down the middle, 550 for the both of us. The month I got kicked out I paid my half, but the next two months I was unable to make payments due to an unlawful termination from my employer. After disputing with my employer I eventually got my job back, but at that point both my vehicles had broken down, my glasses had broken, I had bills piling up from other necessities, and I was eating one meal a day because that's all I could really afford. I was unable to assist with any rent payments until I got a stable base under my feet, accumulating with me paying 400$ this past month. September is the end of our lease, so I'll then be free to actually start looking for a place to live.

However, she's wanting me to pay her back retroactively for the payments I have missed. Now from what I understand, since we are joint tenants, we are both equally responsible for payments to ensure our landlord gets the proper amount due. However, considering I have been denied residency from the condo, and since the landlord has been receiving full payment, do I have any legal obligation to pay my ex back?

Maybe not

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Soylent Yellow: Nov 5, 2010; yospos

Ibexaz posted:

So me and my Fiance separated a few months back. She kicked me out of our condo (which we're both leased under) and became the sole resident.

We normally split the rent down the middle, 550 for the both of us. The month I got kicked out I paid my half, but the next two months I was unable to make payments due to an unlawful termination from my employer. After disputing with my employer I eventually got my job back, but at that point both my vehicles had broken down, my glasses had broken, I had bills piling up from other necessities, and I was eating one meal a day because that's all I could really afford. I was unable to assist with any rent payments until I got a stable base under my feet, accumulating with me paying 400$ this past month. September is the end of our lease, so I'll then be free to actually start looking for a place to live.

However, she's wanting me to pay her back retroactively for the payments I have missed. Now from what I understand, since we are joint tenants, we are both equally responsible for payments to ensure our landlord gets the proper amount due. However, considering I have been denied residency from the condo, and since the landlord has been receiving full payment, do I have any legal obligation to pay my ex back?

Absolutely not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure it would cost her more than she would gain from you to make that stick.

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blarzgh: Apr 14, 2009; SNITCHIN' RANDY; Grimey Drawer

You let us know if that bitch actually sues you over $1100 for the occupancy of a space she was denying you entrance to.

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Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

Have you talked to the landlord at all? If he's not cool enough to drop you off the lease then you might be able to get an extra set of keys.

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pathetic little tramp: Dec 12, 2005; by Hillary Clinton's assassins; Fallen Rib

I'm more interested in the unlawful termination - being able to contest your employer and get your job back probably means we're not talking about the US.

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22 Eargesplitten: Oct 10, 2010

I asked in the apartment thread, but I figured I should ask here since it might turn into a legal situation. Can a lease supercede state law? Colorado says that presumed abandoned property at the end of a lease must be held while 15 days notice is given to the tenant. The lady at the property management place said that abandoned property can be disposed of. I don't have the lease with me, but would that be legal even if I signed a contract with that in it?

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:17

xxEightxx: Mar 5, 2010; Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!; Salad Prong

Generally no unless the law allows modification via a written agreement, aka lease; or the lease is more restrictive/protective than the law (eg law says 15 days lease gives 30), but even that will be dealt with in the code/case law. This is general legal principle stuff I am not a co attorney.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 22:21

Phil Moscowitz: Feb 19, 2007; If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Truly it depends. And in many cases legal protections can be waived by a contract---it doesn't always have to be more protective. Leases give up tenant rights all the time. Also general legal stuff not specific to CO landlord tenant law.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 22:27

22 Eargesplitten: Oct 10, 2010

If it was legal to change the agreement in this case, would that show up in that part of the statutes, or would that be somewhere else? I tried googling for freedom of contract Colorado, but that just brings up a bunch of references to a paper that people at the University of Colorado contributed to. Nolo has a link to the statute, CRS 38-20-116, and it doesn't say anything about modifying with a contract.

I'm going to check out the contract once I get home to see if there is even a conflict there.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 22:38

Ham Equity: Apr 16, 2013; The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.; Grimey Drawer

A friend and his wife are renting a place at significantly lower than market value from his in-laws that they have done a ton of work on. The in-laws want to make sure my friend and his wife get the place in the inheritance, so they hired a lawyer who suggested a loan for the place taken out of the in-laws assets (at a very reasonable price). My friend was really worried about how it would all hash out, and was worried about what would happen in the inheritance if there was a fight, and I basically explained that the loan would probably be a marital asset, but the house would be theirs, since it would be in their name. I suggested he hire a lawyer of his own to consult, to make sure his bases are covered, along with talking to an accountant to make sure they were clear on any tax consequences.

Given that everyone involved in the transaction is on good terms, and the whole idea is the in-laws helping out my friend and his wife, was I being paranoid in recommending they talk to their own lawyer? Would this be something they would be okay just going with the advice of the in-laws lawyer on?

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Spacewolf: May 19, 2014

Why is it not being specified in a will?

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JesustheDarkLord: May 22, 2006; #VolsDeep; Lipstick Apathy

22 Eargesplitten posted:

If it was legal to change the agreement in this case, would that show up in that part of the statutes, or would that be somewhere else?

Knowing this stuff and where / how to find it is literally how we make money. Talk to an attorney and figure out if the cost to pursue it and then make a call.

# ? Aug 9, 2016 17:46

22 Eargesplitten: Oct 10, 2010

Yeah, I guess that's what I have to do. Well, hopefully not, but likely yes. I'm picking up a copy of the contract today, but I'm guessing they aren't going to cooperate. Most people living there can't afford a lawyer. This is just a huge pain in the rear end, especially since I can't clean or handle the yard until it's settled.

# ? Aug 9, 2016 19:07

blarzgh: Apr 14, 2009; SNITCHIN' RANDY; Grimey Drawer

Thanatosian posted:

You say "Loan" but do you mean the owners would sell your friends the house, and finance the transaction?

Edit: I can't tell why the In-laws would be giving your friend money, and that would somehow equal your friend also getting real estate?

# ? Aug 9, 2016 22:41

Frinkahedron: Jul 26, 2006; Gobble Gobble

Former landlord is withholding our security deposit and didn't notify us until two months after the end of the lease. Virginia law says either we need notice or the money back within 45 days (as far as I can tell). When he did notify us of the "damages", he didn't give me an itemized list, just a bulleted list in a text message. I asked him for a copy of the invoice from the contractor(s) he supposedly used but am now being ignored. I have some photos of things that were broken/worn from when we first moved in that make me 99% sure he's literally lying via text message and is trying to scam us.

Is it even worth hiring a lawyer to get back my $1100? I'm afraid of spending a bunch of time to get 1/10th of that back after fees.

(Or can I send a nice threatening letter saying I'm going to hire a lawyer first?)

# ? Aug 11, 2016 02:40

Anonymous Zebra: Oct 21, 2005; Blending in like it ain't no thang

This question is a bit different from the usual hypotheticals we get here, but I was curious how this kind of thing worked in real life. In the HBO miniseries The Night of the main character is charged with first degree murder amongst a pile of other charges. A big-shot lawyer sees his case on TV and decides she wants to represent him so she can get more camera time. She visits the man's family and tells them that she will personally represent their son, and will do it pro-bono. She tells them to fire his previous lawyer (who they have not paid a retainer yet), and then she represents him during a bail hearing. Shortly after, he rejects a plea bargain after indicating he would accept it to his lawyer and she gets pissed off, "quits", and tells his family that some random low-level associate in her firm will now be his lawyer, and that it will no longer be pro-bono.

I was curious what the real world legality of all this is. Can a lawyer "quit" once they've already appeared representing a client? Specifically can they quit because their client refused to take a plea? Can a lawyer agree to represent someone for free, then suddenly change their mind and start charging them after taking the case?

# ? Aug 11, 2016 08:55

joat mon: Oct 15, 2009; I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Short answer: not illegal, arguably unethical but wouldn't be found unethical, but a crappy thing to do.

# ? Aug 11, 2016 13:49

ulmont: Sep 15, 2010; IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

joat mon posted:

Short answer: not illegal, arguably unethical but wouldn't be found unethical, but a crappy thing to do.

You can't unilaterally revise a fee agreement in an unfair fashion, though (which I suppose is a bit of an open question about fairness if you represented through a reasonable plea agreement that was rejected).

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evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

Frinkahedron posted:

Former landlord is withholding our security deposit and didn't notify us until two months after the end of the lease. Virginia law says either we need notice or the money back within 45 days (as far as I can tell). When he did notify us of the "damages", he didn't give me an itemized list, just a bulleted list in a text message. I asked him for a copy of the invoice from the contractor(s) he supposedly used but am now being ignored. I have some photos of things that were broken/worn from when we first moved in that make me 99% sure he's literally lying via text message and is trying to scam us.

Is it even worth hiring a lawyer to get back my $1100? I'm afraid of spending a bunch of time to get 1/10th of that back after fees.

(Or can I send a nice threatening letter saying I'm going to hire a lawyer first?)

he's withholding the deposit specifically because it costs him nothing to try and 99% of people won't contest it, this is a pretty common landlord scam

# ? Aug 11, 2016 14:00

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