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DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

The H110i was really designed with the larger chips in mind, to the point that Corsair said in their reviewer guide to test with the i7-5960X because the quad core Intel CPUs simply do not put any stress on the cooler.

I have the slightly older H110, and they're absolutely right: my 5820k@4.5 full tilt hangs out in the low 80's with the fans turned down to silent. If I bother to turn them up it'll keep it as low as the upper 60's. At 4.5GHz. The thing is crazy good.

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PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Which x99 board is best, anyway?

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER


The most expensive one. Or the cheapest with the features you want. Actually it would depend on what you wanna do with it.

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness
I'd just make sure it has a 4x M.2 slot on it and USB 3.1. There are enough reasonably priced options out there right now that there's not much of an excuse not to.

EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



Asus Strix or the X99 Deluxe boards are really good for OC and good features.

ASRock for tons of features at a great price (but watch those Memory slots. You want 8 not 4 with X#9 boards)

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
My ASRock X99 Extreme4 was priced OK and performs very well.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I might have to go with a 5820k then...hmm....

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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Lipstick Apathy
thunderbolt 3 is only on few boards if that matters to you

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER


Perplx posted:

thunderbolt 3 is only on few boards if that matters to you

What possible scenario in a desktop environment could warrant Thunderbolt 3 when you're building the machine yourself or having it built?

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Boiled Water posted:

What possible scenario in a desktop environment could warrant Thunderbolt 3 when you're building the machine yourself or having it built?
Really niche peripherals (random video stuff is all I can think of off the top of my head) or hub/dock setups if you want the machine elsewhere for noise or appearance or whatever.

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
So, something I've noticed with my 6600K that I'm now curious enough to ask about - is it normal for the base clock to oscillate between 99.9 and 100.1 MHz? If so, what's up with that?

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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HMS Boromir posted:

So, something I've noticed with my 6600K that I'm now curious enough to ask about - is it normal for the base clock to oscillate between 99.9 and 100.1 MHz? If so, what's up with that?

IINW something to do with mobo clock spread spectrum to comply with FCC regulations for reducing RF interference. Old school mobos used to have the option to disable it as a loophole but now nobody offers that anymore.

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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Boiled Water posted:

What possible scenario in a desktop environment could warrant Thunderbolt 3 when you're building the machine yourself or having it built?

if you have a thunderbolt 3 laptop it's the cheapest and easiest way to get 10Gb ethernet but yeah pretty niche

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


What do you call a man with no arms, no legs, and is squeezed between two metal plates?

lDDQD
Apr 16, 2006
Timmy.

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003
The problem with cheap 10gb ethernet is that your switch is still $100 per port.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

NihilismNow posted:

The problem with cheap 10gb ethernet is that your switch is still $100 per port.
Just daisy chain computers together directly with Thunderbolt cables :v:

(Actually I guess that's what he meant, just hook up the laptop and desktop with a cable and there's your 10gb connection)

EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



Palladium posted:

IINW something to do with mobo clock spread spectrum to comply with FCC regulations for reducing RF interference. Old school mobos used to have the option to disable it as a loophole but now nobody offers that anymore.

Is that not still an option in the mid to high end boards? Leaving Spread Spectrum enabled can cause ever so slight issues with Overclocking so I have always left it off to make sure my #'s remain solid instead of that slight flux.

Overall it just makes all the monitoring apps look silly with slight off my .1 numbers in the maths and I'm not even OCD. If someone was and had this when overclocking....

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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http://www.hardocp.com/news/2016/07/10/motherboard_players_see_2030_drop_in_2q16_shipments/

quote:

Sources suggest that companies are seeing as much as a 30% decline in motherboard shipments due to weakened demand and other issues that include the delay of Intel's Kaby Lake platform. The good news for us is that prices are getting slashed in an attempt to boost sales.

Because of weak demand, motherboard players have been slashing prices to boost sales. Asustek is currently having advantages in the price competition because of its deep pockets. In addition, motherboard players have also been increasing their sales bonuses to their distributors and channel retail partners in China to encourage them to place orders. However, the risk of creating bad debts has been rising and a few cases have already occurred recently. Motherboard players have also reduced their shipment forecasts for 2016. Asustek and Gigabyte are looking to ship 17 million motherboards, Micro-Star International (MSI) 4.5 million, ASRock four million, China-based Colorful 1.9-2 million, ECS less than two million and Biostar less than one million.

Overall 54M sold in 2015 (itself -21.7% YoY over 2014) dipping to projected <48M in 2016, ouch. ECS and Biostar had already called it quits a while back, IMO it's a matter of time before MSI and Asrock does the same.

Though I doubt Intel will be losing much sleep when they have ~260M OEM shoes to fill.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Palladium posted:

Old school mobos used to have the option to disable it as a loophole but now nobody offers that anymore.

Some do, the Asus z107i has spread spectrum disabled by default.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10576/more-details-on-broxton-quad-core-ecc-up-to-18-eus-of-gen9

quote:

One of the big plus points for Broxton will be the support of dual channel ECC memory. This opens up a few more markets where ECC is a fundamental requirement to the operation.
Let's see if they don't hide this behind a 100 dollar markup this time

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004


Palladium posted:

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2016/07/10/motherboard_players_see_2030_drop_in_2q16_shipments/


Overall 54M sold in 2015 (itself -21.7% YoY over 2014) dipping to projected <48M in 2016, ouch. ECS and Biostar had already called it quits a while back, IMO it's a matter of time before MSI and Asrock does the same.

Though I doubt Intel will be losing much sleep when they have ~260M OEM shoes to fill.

Doesn't Asia own asrock? Or do I have it backwards and were they a spinoff?

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
I believe Asrock was once the lower-end subsidiary of ASUS, but they were spun off into their own company some years ago.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

JnnyThndrs posted:

I believe Asrock was once the lower-end subsidiary of ASUS, but they were spun off into their own company some years ago.

And now they're arguably better at ASUS in everything except Workstation-level boards and specialist poo poo.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
I hope the AMD Zen turns out as pretty competent and isn't just more hot air. Because that raises the chances that 8core -E CPUs will drop in price (hopefully).

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
140w cpus are no joke overclocked to 4Ghz:



This is using a Coolermaster Hyper 612 which is a drat large air cooler with 6 heat pipes. Never thought I'd say this, but water cooling might have been a better idea.

redeyes fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Aug 21, 2016

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Seems normal. I also get to 85°C with Prime95 on a Dark Rock 3 cooler form BeQuiet. I've an 5820K overclocked to 4GHz. But that's with these silly benchmarks. During normal use, it ends up more at 65°C when pinned.

I have a vague interest in water cooling, but longevity of these things is what has me concerned. Then again, it looks like upgrades every three years, anyway. That and any sort of high pitched noise they might produce.

Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Aug 21, 2016

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Combat Pretzel posted:

I hope the AMD Zen turns out as pretty competent and isn't just more hot air. Because that raises the chances that 8core -E CPUs will drop in price (hopefully).
If those drop in price those will drop by like 5, 10% if you're really lucky. Brand name is strong, even back during the Pentium 4 days.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

redeyes posted:

140w cpus are no joke overclocked to 4Ghz:



This is using a Coolermaster Hyper 612 which is a drat large air cooler with 6 heat pipes. Never thought I'd say this, but water cooling might have been a better idea.

We have a thread for you if you wanted to talk about such insanity!

Join the aquatic community, you know you want to

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

PerrineClostermann posted:

We have a thread for you if you wanted to talk about such insanity!

Join the aquatic community, you know you want to

I don't want to, don't trust the stuff at all. Have had to deal with many failures. Thanks though.

Haquer
Nov 15, 2009

That windswept look...

redeyes posted:

140w cpus are no joke overclocked to 4Ghz:



This is using a Coolermaster Hyper 612 which is a drat large air cooler with 6 heat pipes. Never thought I'd say this, but water cooling might have been a better idea.

Thought about trying the Noctua NH-D15? In benchmarks it's super close to water cooling if not better than half the AIO coolers

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Haquer posted:

Thought about trying the Noctua NH-D15? In benchmarks it's super close to water cooling if not better than half the AIO coolers

It would be my first port of call (well, the NH-D15S, so you don't block the top slot on your 2011 board) before I went to custom water cooling loop crazy town.

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Haquer posted:

Thought about trying the Noctua NH-D15? In benchmarks it's super close to water cooling if not better than half the AIO coolers

That was the next cooler on my list actually.. for double the price.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
What's the best AIO brand these days? I have a Corsair H50 or something in my current build and it gets my i5-2500k to 4.4GHz with no fuss. Wondering if they're still the standard for my next build.

Haquer
Nov 15, 2009

That windswept look...

HalloKitty posted:

It would be my first port of call (well, the NH-D15S, so you don't block the top slot on your 2011 board) before I went to custom water cooling loop crazy town.

Yeah, I plan on getting a board that has a 1x slot to be blocked by the cooler with a 16x under it for this very reason. The cooler is loving massive but goddamn it's good.


redeyes posted:

That was the next cooler on my list actually.. for double the price.

It's slightly cheaper than most AIO water solutions. If you want high end you have to pay for it, unfortunately

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003

redeyes posted:

That was the next cooler on my list actually.. for double the price.

If you want to justify it to yourself it comes with 2 Noctua PWM fans which cost almost half what the cooler costs retail. When you consider that other premium coolers come with fans that you probably want to replace the price difference seems smaller.

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

priznat posted:

What's the best AIO brand these days? I have a Corsair H50 or something in my current build and it gets my i5-2500k to 4.4GHz with no fuss. Wondering if they're still the standard for my next build.

They are still the standard. There are some other players out there that are also good, but they tend to be more hit or miss, and certainly don't have the availability and support that Corsair does. Swiftech has some neat ones that are easy to drop additional loop modules into, which is nice.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

DrDork posted:

They are still the standard. There are some other players out there that are also good, but they tend to be more hit or miss, and certainly don't have the availability and support that Corsair does. Swiftech has some neat ones that are easy to drop additional loop modules into, which is nice.

Cool. I had seen Fractal Design has some but they aren't very available in my area.

Corsair is a little confusing with all the different H1XX models for the 280mm radiator, but I've heard outside of if you want the "i" features just get whatever, it doesn't really matter.

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

priznat posted:

Corsair is a little confusing with all the different H1XX models for the 280mm radiator, but I've heard outside of if you want the "i" features just get whatever, it doesn't really matter.

Pretty much. They're just minor variations on the same basic design. The radiator size is the big thing, then the "i" if you want some of the connectivity options for some reason.

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Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer

redeyes posted:

140w cpus are no joke overclocked to 4Ghz:



This is using a Coolermaster Hyper 612 which is a drat large air cooler with 6 heat pipes. Never thought I'd say this, but water cooling might have been a better idea.

I just noticed that my CPU fan only runs at about 1000 RPM until the CPU gets relatively warm. You could try setting a manual CPU fan curve, maybe the fan just isn't kicking full speed in until ~80 degrees.

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