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LmaoTheKid posted:Allen I'm a little bearish on Nelson and bullish on Evans so I'd go: Allen Evans Marshall Cooks Nelson Watkins
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Papes posted:You guys are nuts if you take cooks over any of those guys. Marshall and Cooks were a tossup for me and I bet on the QB there.
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My league is doing keepers for the first time, but we use ESPN and their settings are poo poo. I'm thinking that we'll do the draft elsewhere and I'll just import rosters to ESPN afterward. Which of Yahoo or NFL is better for doing a keeper draft? I've looked through commish settings on both and either one seems to be capable of handling our rules, I'm just not sure which has the better draft experience. I'm assuming that we may have at least 1 person drafting from a phone app so I'm keeping that in mind as well.
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Ty1990 posted:Can I get a few opinions on this? Here's another uninformed opinion: Marshall Evans Allen Jordy Cooks Watkins I can't get behind dropping Marshall to the bottom (sorry spoeank) and Watkins won't get near enough volume to be in the same tier as those guys above him in full PPR (sorry papes). I basically wouldn't care who I got out of Evans, Allen, or Jordy, fwiw, and I wouldn't be too sad about any of that list as my WR1 in full PPR (except Watkins, who I'd be happy with in standard).
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Teeter posted:My league is doing keepers for the first time, but we use ESPN and their settings are poo poo. I'm thinking that we'll do the draft elsewhere and I'll just import rosters to ESPN afterward. Which of Yahoo or NFL is better for doing a keeper draft? Clickydraft maybe? Or MFL.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Clickydraft maybe? Or MFL. These are options as well, though with the caveat that I'm trying to keep it most accessible to lowest common denominator and Yahoo/NFL are more familiar. I've heard negative things about the MFL interface and I've sorta ruled out Clickydraft/DraftNight because I know that $20 will have to come out of my pocket. Are they really that much better? This is for a basic keeper league. 2 players kept, penalty is 2 rounds before draft position last season. I have no clue why ESPN has such poo poo settings for this. Teeter fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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Allen Evans Marshall Nelson Cooks Watkins Allen to me is the undisputed #1 here. The Chargers are not going to throw as much as they did last year, but they've got a great QB and are a pass first team. Through the first 7 weeks of last season before his injury, Allen had the #3 most targets in the NFL behind Nuk and Julio. He also had an insanely high 77% completion average (Julio had 69% and Nuk had 57%). Both of those numbers could regress significantly this season and he'd still be a top 10 WR in PPR. Continuing with that logic of following the targets, it's a toss up between Evans and Marshall here. Marshall had more targets and a better completion percentage, but we all know that Evans was nearly league worst in drop percentage last year, and I expect that to trend upwards this season. Add to that Evans being the obvious focal point in the red zone (despite only catching 3 TDs last year...jesus those drops) and he could easily do better than Marshall this year. Marshall was the #3 WR in PPR last year though! So he should absolutely be next on this list. The Jets are the Jets, but Marshall and Fitz had chemistry and I don't see that changing much this year. I think Forte siphons a few targets away from Marshall, and I think his TD numbers regress a bit too, which is why he goes behind Evans. I expect Nelson to be back to form. Also, Aaron Rodgers. Cooks really came around in the last half of last season, but I don't fully trust him yet. That uncertainty about who he is drops him down to second to last here, Brees be damned. Health is a skill and Watkins doesn't have it. Also, even a receiver as talented as a healthy Sammy gets a ding for playing on a team that rushes more than every team aside from Carolina.
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Thanks guys. I kept Antonio Brown and am picking 8 and 11 overall in my draft. I'm giving zero RB a shot and I've pretty much narrowed my top 3 to Allen-Evans-Marshall in some sort of order. Pretty good chance I'll get two of them.
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quote:The Boston Globe's Ben Volin believes Dion Lewis (knee) "might" start the season on reserve/PUP. If Dion was leaning towards my "do not draft" list, he's definitely on it now.
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Teeter posted:These are options as well, though with the caveat that I'm trying to keep it most accessible to lowest common denominator and Yahoo/NFL are more familiar. I've heard negative things about the MFL interface and I've sorta ruled out Clickydraft/DraftNight because I know that $20 will have to come out of my pocket. Are they really that much better? My league all loves yahoo over nfl. Our dynasty league is now on MFL though and we all love the customization capabilities.
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MFL is loving awesome. You could also just run the draft through ESPN and have people manually put their keepers in.
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While the endless customization options of MFL are awesome, the site layout and UI is a real heap of poo poo without significant tweaking. I had a dynasty league disband pretty much solely because the site was so non-user friendly and no one in the league had the smarts to fix it.
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Metapod posted:Am I alone in not wanting anything to do with jordy? Piggybacking on this: it seems a lot of the players injured last year are still real touchy.
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What do people think of the mid round RBs this year in PPR leagues? I've been running draftwizards for my 4th pick in a 14 person 1 ppr league and I keep coming down to a decision between C.J. Anderson, Danny Woodhead, Carlos Hyde, Duke Johnson, DeMarco Murray, Thomas Rawls, and Dion Lewis. I'm feeling like I should go Woodhead - Anderson - Rawls - Hyde - Murray - Duke - Lewis. There's also a tier below them that worries me because I have to have two RBs in a league where a ton of people grab them after going double WR early. Ryan Matthews, Jeremy Langford, Frank Gore, Jeremy Hill, Theo Riddick, Jonathan Stewart, Arian Foster. I really feel like Riddick is the best option in that second group just for the PPR value alone. Langford is the other option but his games just seemed so undrwhelming. JStew and Hill seem yawnstipating and Foster is a huge mystery for a 4th/5th rounder.
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Doltos posted:What do people think of the mid round RBs this year in PPR leagues? I know it's the trend this year, but I'm loving the idea on loading up on elite WRs because of how much depth that area of RB has. Scoop all of the RBs up in the 5th round-9th Rawls/Woodhead/Mathews/Gore/etc
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If anyone is up for a dynasty mock draft, I have one space left in an MFL mock slow draft that's about to kick off. We're using Scott Fish Bowl scoring, which attempts to equalize positions - it should be interesting to see how it plays out. Superflex, TE Premium, .25 points per carry. 1QB/2RB/3WR/TE/4Flex/1SFLEX Pick trading is also allowed, so it might be good practice for anyone who has dynasty startups on the horizon. Let me know! Edit: filled up. Quarterroys fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Aug 6, 2016 |
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quote:Bennie Fowler has emerged as the "frontrunner" for the Broncos' No. 3 receiver job. Who was that one guy who kept scrubbing Cody Latimer's balls every chance he got, I want to know how many people wasted a draft pick because of him. Reminder that the Broncos drafted Latimer five spots ahead of Allen Robinson.
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Benne posted:Who was that one guy who kept scrubbing Cody Latimer's balls every chance he got, I want to know how many people wasted a draft pick because of him. Cecil Lammey https://twitter.com/cecillammey/status/632386652426498048 "The Denver Broncos could have found a star in the second round of the 2014 NFL draft. ". "Latimer is bigger, more versatile and a better blocker than Caldwell. The rookie has the makings of a star in this league. The Broncos won’t be able to hold this talent down for long... Simply put—Latimer is the future for the Broncos, and the future is now." A few days ago: https://twitter.com/CecilLammey/status/760252747367145472
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Hey gang, I'll make a proper thread later but I'm starting up a dynasty league and need players. If anyone is interested in a dynasty league with: - auction draft - blind bidding waivers - superflex - full ppr, 1.5 ppr for tes - .2 points per carry - no kickers send me a pm or reply in this thread. I'm thinking around a $25-30 buy in.
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Cecil Lammey is a huge Broncos dickrider and was also the main person responsible for CJ Anderson: First Round Pick last year. He yelled me down when I told him CJA in the first was insane. gently caress Cecil Lammey.
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Go uh, Clive Walford? Will Tye? Martellus Bennett?
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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/761974293723045889 Ebron you may or may not have gotten good or useful but I guess we'll never find out now
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Spoeank posted:
I'm in a few 2 TE dynasty leagues and it really hammers home how poo poo the position is. In a start up right now, picked up Fleener and Ertz somewhat early, and now looking at guys like Tye and Amaro and Witten and Heuerman as a TE3. Might just not draft one and hope for the best  I guess I should take Witten and hope he plays til he's 40??
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Spoeank posted:
You of all people should know we've already moved on to future hall of famer Vance McDonald, duh. Also pour one out for the CJ Fiedorowicz dream while you're at it.
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Benne posted:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/761974293723045889 Shrodingers tight end if you will
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Forever_Peace posted:You of all people should know we've already moved on to future hall of famer Vance McDonald, duh. Vance McDonald is bad I tells ya! Bad!
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Crockett Gilmore, that is all
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Papes posted:Crockett Gilmore, that is all Isn't he hurt? Am I imagining things?
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Forever_Peace posted:Isn't he hurt? Am I imagining things? Less hurt than Pitta, at least. But also Watson and Maxx Williams are there, so there's basically no appeal.
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Spoeank posted:Will Tye This is where I'm shifting my focus unless Fleener falls into a round wherein it is not an embarrassing mistake to draft a TE gently caress TEs forever
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Gary Barnidge is the tight end to carry your team to glory.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I'm starting to think that TE isn't as deep as we'd like to hope, and that there's a solid argument for not waiting on them. I wanna say we go through that every season. Once a couple TEs go down (usually including someone in the group right below Gronk), everyone realizes there's only 5ish good TEs
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The whole idea behind waiting/punting TEs is that, statistically, at least half of the first 10 TEs drafted are going to be dogshit regardless of ADP; so unless you're getting Gronk, you're playing with fire no matter what you do. The fact is, that unless you're in an 8 team league, at least 2-6 of the owners in your league are going to have below-replacement level TEs (and probably no more than 4 who aren't Gronk will actually be remotely close to a difference maker) and there's nothing you can do about it. When you're operating within a set that has such limited outcomes as is, it's probably less risky to just ignore it altogether. A lot of people will tell you that the draft is mostly a crapshoot, and that leagues are won on the WW. If that is the case, and you're just throwing darts, doesn't it make more sense to focus on fewer targets? Especially when you need 3-5 each of RB/WR to fill a roster, and only one, already notably fickle, TE? Let someone else spend a top-50 pick on Jordan loving Reed and laugh all the way to the bank with your stash of WR/RBs that will all score more points. Maybe this is first year ever that every TE will play up to his ADP? Or will it just be like every other year where like 4 of the top 7 non-Gronk TEs have an ADP north of 150 and you're an idiot for drafting one so high. e: Unless you drafted Gronk/Graham that one year, I don't think a TE draft pick has ever won anyone a fantasy league in the entire history of fantasy. Someone point out to me the guy who drafted Marques Colston in 2004 or Gary Barnidge/Benjamin Watson last year because that guy is probably lying. e2: I guess I think it's just way less risky to use one of your late picks to try to guess one of the 1-3 undrafted TEs that will crack the top-10, than to use an actually valuable pick on an ADP top-10 TE that, unless he's Gronk, has about a 50% chance of being a JAG. Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Aug 6, 2016 |
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Dwayne Allen is still going to have the TD upside that everyone was projecting onto Ebron.
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I did the research for an article and over the last five years, I think it was 4.5 of the top 12 TEs were drafted in the top 7 and 4.5 were outside of the top 15 by ADP. Don't draft a tight end, y'all. Edit: http://theinscribermag.com/sports/fantasy-football-2016-on-tyler-eiferts-injury-and-why-tight-ends-dont-matter.html "If you take the last four years, the numbers are equal, with an average of 4.5 top-seven draftees in the TE1 ranks, and 4.5 completely undrafted tight ends among the TEs." Spoeank fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Aug 6, 2016 |
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Spoeank posted:I did the research for an article and over the last five years, I think it was 4.5 of the top 12 TEs were drafted in the top 7 and 4.5 were outside of the top 15 by ADP. Uhhhhh that actually sounds like a really high hit rate. 5 of 7 of early TEa end as TE1? There's no way running back is that high.
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