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The problem with the Bain case is that it is basically judging the capability and recollection of a small-town NZ police force who stumbled across a mass murder scene 15 years ago and had no idea what the gently caress they were doing. Contrast that with the lawyers on Bain's side who have spent that entire time going through everything over and over and then get the same initial witnesses up on the stand and ask them questions about something they have hopefully managed to put out of their minds years ago, and hammering them when they fail to give consistent answers. <rant> This isn't the Syed or Avery cases where every bit of evidence produced by the police (or none, as is the case with Syed) is questionable as gently caress - this is a case where the only evidence that *doesn't* point to the person convicted is a note written on a computer. And I'm sure if someone could give me an image of the hard drive that was in it, it'd show that he forged that drat note himself and ... I'll stop there. </rant>
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There is also the fact that a few witnesses for the prosecution passed away between the two trials. There testimony was not allowed in the second. Also some of the physical evidence was not able to be presented at the second trial as the original item had been lost or destroyed. This meant the defence could not get their own independent tests conducted on the item so the results of the initial tests were withheld. Add in some poor memory and record keeping and you have reasonable doubt for the accused.
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Aug 3, 2016 01:47
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Slavvy posted:The lawyer fella in this thread will chime in soon I'm sure but acquitted=/=innocent in a legal sense. Law Dr from my FB posted:Any work for applied Bainologists has now pretty much dried up. As always, there is still a healthy interest in theoretical Bainology, however. Honestly I don't know what to say other than early on reading into the case I pretty much made a conscious decision to block it all out. It became such a deep rabbit hole the further people went they became deeply invested in it ("Bainology"). When we did our criminal plea of mitigation practice at the Dunedin High Court (before the main hall had to be closed for earthquake strengthening) our prof pointed out we were sitting on the jury bench where those that decided the Bain case sat. That was pretty funky/eery. Living in Dunedin as student you didn't have to even chat very far into meeting people who were locals to hear such intense views about it. I only just wonder whether Bain is a threat to society anymore. I dont think he is. So if he can't be proven guilty BRD, he may as well be out, and this chapter may have done something to serve as a lesson for the NZ Police for the future.
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Aug 3, 2016 04:39
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WarpedNaba posted:Shooting your father in the head and then immediately contacting the police seem somewhat... disconnected. Not immediately. First you put your blood-soaked clothes in the washing machine and then arrange your dad's murder scene to look like a suicide. Oh, and you write a note implicating him in the massacre.
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Aug 3, 2016 23:44
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Mods please update the poll so moo cow can rightfully vote as "farm owner"
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Aug 4, 2016 07:17
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What the Christ, only 1 in 5 of us actually owns the place we live in.
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Aug 4, 2016 07:19
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Very few goons over the age of 50 / fell out of the limited number of lucky vaginas.
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Aug 4, 2016 07:21
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WarpedNaba posted:What the Christ, only 1 in 5 of us actually owns the place we live in. Is my sarcasm detector broken or are you genuinely surprised at this?
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Aug 4, 2016 07:36
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wtf are you talking about: homeowners are stupid peaces of poo poo
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Aug 4, 2016 07:37
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Interesting, the poll didn't show up in Awful.app so I had to log in with a web browser to participate and add another one to the Bourgeoisie collective of land owning gentlemen.
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Aug 4, 2016 08:17
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WarpedNaba posted:What the Christ, only 1 in 5 of us actually owns the place we live in. Less, I voted piece of poo poo but i also don't own a house
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Aug 4, 2016 08:33
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Slavvy posted:Is my sarcasm detector broken or are you genuinely surprised at this? I knew it was bad, but it turns out it's bad.
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Aug 4, 2016 08:34
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bobbilljim posted:Less, I voted piece of poo poo but i also don't own a house I too am a piece of poo poo that pays rent.
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Aug 4, 2016 09:05
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WarpedNaba posted:I knew it was bad, but it turns out it's bad. Ok now I'm pretty sure I have autism because I still can't tell.
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Aug 4, 2016 09:06
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i didn't vote at all, but im still gonna complain about the outcome
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Aug 4, 2016 09:24
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Wafflecopper posted:Does stuff even do editing before they put articles up? Usually they seem to be first drafts that haven't even been proofread/fact checked. I've been spending a bit of time with a person who edits on stuff. I'm consistently (usually pleasantly) surprised by a lot of what seems to go on behind the scenes. They seem to be really good at respecting her home-life balance :welp: She's wicked 2 cool and I am unable to form personal opinions so
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Aug 4, 2016 09:45
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Slavvy posted:Ok now I'm pretty sure I have autism because I still can't tell. I knew it was bad but it was worse than I thought. What exactly does stupid piece of poo poo entail? Living with parents?
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Aug 4, 2016 09:46
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A stupid piece of poo poo is someone who clicks the option to say they are a stupid piece of poo poo.
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Aug 4, 2016 09:52
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bobbilljim posted:Mods please update the poll so moo cow can rightfully vote as "farm owner"  
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Aug 4, 2016 10:20
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Ghostlight posted:A stupid piece of poo poo is someone who clicks the option to say they are a stupid piece of poo poo.
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Aug 4, 2016 10:43
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Celia eh
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Aug 5, 2016 00:05
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P. sure I voted piece of poo poo. I don't own, but rent. Paying some kind of property owner rent money is enabling them to be pieces of poo poo so...
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Aug 5, 2016 01:08
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Aug 5, 2016 01:23
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Living off the sweet succour of my mortgage-ridden parents. Aka peace of poo poo
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Aug 5, 2016 01:27
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gently caress HARAMBE posted:Celia eh Looks like we're getting ol' Nicola.
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Aug 5, 2016 01:34
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Looks like we're getting ol' Nicola. I dunno, Lester is p high profile and may well be viewed as Celia's successor now. Young is high profile too, but a ton of that is negative.
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Aug 5, 2016 01:56
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Chalupa Joe posted:
mate when ya see a step on that ladder you take it honestly though I think we should get rid of our investment property. its bogus
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Aug 5, 2016 09:21
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I can't view or partake in polls on awful.app but I want it to be known that I do not own property. The trust does. 
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Aug 5, 2016 10:25
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Voted for renter, but I'm also a stupid piece of poo poo because I didn't buy property in Auckland five years ago. e: Feel even more stupid now that the wife and I are seriously considering moving in with parents for a couple years so we can increase the deposit fund faster. Xik fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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Aug 5, 2016 10:32
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 cool http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/82670909/former-new-plymouth-councillor-john-horse-mcleods-battle-plan-over-maori-wards
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Aug 5, 2016 10:38
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Thank god he died on the hill of No Maori Wards so that he could champion a fight for Maori representation in local government.
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Aug 5, 2016 10:50
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Aug 5, 2016 11:06
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gently caress HARAMBE posted:
I can't believe there were 9 seasons of Treasure Island quote:5. Treasure Island: Extreme was hosted by model Jacqui Rickards and was more "extreme" than past Treasure Islands pitting ex-police, SAS, armed forces and soldiers against each other with no food, water or shelter at all. The winner of this season was John "Horse" McLeod. Notably, when the SAS contestant Baz Rice was eliminated from the game he refused to leave and instead hid in the jungle. Because of previous threats made to rival contestants, a security warning was issued to other competitors. He eventually returned from the jungle and left the island.
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Aug 5, 2016 11:30
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Red_Museum posted:I can't believe there were 9 seasons of Treasure Island Big Brother has been going for 17 years.
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Aug 5, 2016 11:48
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So HC is basically out of contention for secretary general. I've heard that the US doesn't want her, possibly because of her involvement in Lange's cabinet. I guess international politics doesn't have the depressingly short memory span of domestic politics?
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Aug 6, 2016 00:14
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What the blazes was that anti-fluoride ad on TV?!?
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Aug 6, 2016 07:54
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oohhboy posted:What the blazes was that anti-fluoride ad on TV?!? DEADLY TOXINS IN OUR DRINKING WATER.
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Aug 6, 2016 08:32
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Terrestrial TV viewers lol
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Aug 6, 2016 08:49
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Oh well she'll get 'im next time
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Wellington now officially best NZ city.
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