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Elliott is Whiterose's sister guys, c'mon. That's why their Mandarin was so bad.
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Dr. Josef Mengele posted:Why is everyone calling whiterose a cross dresser? He explicitly said those clothes belong to his sister, so it's obviously the case that they are identical twins and just haven't had a scene together yet. Why do people insist on crazy theories that the show doesn't support?
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Aug 5, 2016 13:34
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Why did she have the parking lot attendant killed again? I straight up am confused on that part
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Aug 5, 2016 14:10
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Why did she have the parking lot attendant killed again? I straight up am confused on that part She can't afford to keep paying him off to lie to the police and fbi who keep questioning him. He also mentioned that he felt like he was being watched and was behaving erratically. Her driver floated the idea in the last episode and in this one she gave in and agreed it had to be done.
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Aug 5, 2016 14:17
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Why did Tyrrel killed that woman again? It was just a psycho moment or we got any kind of explanation for that?
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Aug 5, 2016 14:24
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Elias_Maluco posted:Why did Tyrrel killed that woman again? I was just a psycho moment or we got any kind of explanation for that? He felt like it.
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Aug 5, 2016 14:46
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Elias_Maluco posted:Also, after this ep Ive jumped off the institution boat. There's Darlene apparently talinkg about their mother and, more importantly, its really hard to make sense of Ray and the final scene in thew episode this context Why do all of this just to say, "nah, it was all real."
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Aug 5, 2016 15:16
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JazzFlight posted:If the institution theory falls through and everything is as it seems, then the first 5 episodes of weird build-up about where he is just became wasted potential. We're to then believe that his actual mother is just hanging out around the house with no interaction at all with anyone? Why does his therapist's room now have an odd light fixture in it (similar to his house) that wasn't in the first season? How convenient it becomes that Ray "knew the chaplain" at the group meetings and got Elliot's journal. Why is the diner so institutional with its cafeteria lines? To me the most damning evidence that the Institution theory is correct is the fact that Elliot always meets with visitors in the downstairs dining room, aka the visitation room. He loves that "diner" (the cafeteria) and eats there 3 times a day, so why wouldn't he meet visitors like Gideon and Darlene there? The exception to this is Ray of course, but I think we've already established that he's staff of some sort, which would easily give him the power to meet with Elliot in his office, dismiss an orderly for a meeting, or have him dragged out into the streets.
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Aug 5, 2016 15:28
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Perhaps it is the imaginary manifestations of Elliot believing he has institutionalised himself, in his own personal palace of digital isolation. I keep coming back to the Cranberries - Zombie while watching this show. Perhaps played by an imaginary Mariachi band standing around him.
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Aug 5, 2016 15:35
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Why did she have the parking lot attendant killed again? I straight up am confused on that part He was getting squirrely about the hush money to keep quiet about seeing Elliot in Tyrell's car. If the FBI knew Elliot was involved it would put a lot of pieces together about F Society and the 5/9 hack.
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Aug 5, 2016 15:53
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muscles like this? posted:He was getting squirrely about the hush money to keep quiet about seeing Elliot in Tyrell's car. If the FBI knew Elliot was involved it would put a lot of pieces together about F Society and the 5/9 hack. They already think Tyrell did it though. Wouldn't finding Elliot in that car actually help Tyrell's defence. i.e. Elliot framed Tyrell for everything and held him hostage somewhere. Keeping the attendant quiet can only really help Elliot. Also what is the deal with the Tyrell's manservant? He can't just be a paid goon.
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Aug 5, 2016 16:03
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JazzFlight posted:If the institution theory falls through and everything is as it seems, then the first 5 episodes of weird build-up about where he is just became wasted potential. We're to then believe that his actual mother is just hanging out around the house with no interaction at all with anyone? Why does his therapist's room now have an odd light fixture in it (similar to his house) that wasn't in the first season? How convenient it becomes that Ray "knew the chaplain" at the group meetings and got Elliot's journal. Why is the diner so institutional with its cafeteria lines? Ok, those are good points, but IDK, I guess we have to wait and see
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Aug 5, 2016 16:48
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Escobarbarian posted:Great ep. This doesn't really bother me because I'm not an uberdork but it did make me laugh that so much of the season has been about a Tor site and then when you finally get to see it they opened it in Firefox. How did they possibly make that mistake haha 
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Aug 5, 2016 18:12
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I have never been a fan of the institution theory because I don't think Elliot would want to give up that much control. I think the explanation for his living arrangements and weird behaviors are that he is structuring his life as close to what he thinks an institution stay would be like in an effort to keep him from relapsing. Elliot doesn't seem like the kind of person to give up control when he thinks he could assert it himself.
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Aug 5, 2016 18:47
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Just popping in to say that I finally started watching this. I'm about 3 episodes I n and its really good so far. I'm reasonably sure that Christian Slater's character is all in Elliot's head.
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Aug 5, 2016 18:53
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Snak posted:I'm reasonably sure that Christian Slater's character is all in Elliot's head. 
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Aug 5, 2016 18:55
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Yeah I always just assumed every time Elliot is in Ray's office, he's just in another part of the hospital/wherever because Ray is an employee there. Which makes sense why Ray could just drag him out and beat him up. He could be the head of security for all we know. And the other thing from this episode that I think falls in line with Elliot being admitted somewhere, has already been mentioned. He always meets everyone at that exact same table.
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Aug 5, 2016 23:23
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I could see Ray being some sort of peer specialist/social worker/counselor considering how well he was able to connect with Elliot when they talked in his office. Which would give him more credibility than being security or an orderly or something since if people question Elliot being injured people would probably believe him if he said it was self-harm or something.
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Aug 5, 2016 23:53
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Oh no! Shayla loving died  God damnit.
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Aug 6, 2016 00:05
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At this point I'm actually going to be disappointed if he's anywhere besides his mom's house. I firmly believe they said 'people are going to expect another twist, let's throw them some garbage to speculate about and the twist will be that there isn't one.'
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Aug 6, 2016 00:11
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DaveKap posted:My friend pointed this out to me and I didn't read it here so, hey, look, a reference! Also the glasses which are reoccuring  pretty sure the lollipop reoccurs too
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Aug 6, 2016 00:18
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Hahahaha Darlene is Elliot's sister. That's amazing. Edit: but also, I fuckin called it on Slater's character. Or not. This show is amazing. Edit2: okay I was right about who he is, but wrong about him being "real". Snak fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Aug 6, 2016 |
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Aug 6, 2016 01:33
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Collateral posted:They already think Tyrell did it though. Wouldn't finding Elliot in that car actually help Tyrell's defence. i.e. Elliot framed Tyrell for everything and held him hostage somewhere. She probably figures Elliot knows where Tyrell is, and if the feds learn he was hanging around in Tyrell's car around the time of the hack, they'll bring him in to learn where Tyrell is. Tyrell was instrumental in keeping the infected server up and un-honeypotted and already a suspected murderer, so if anything Elliot would throw him under the bus, not the other way around. Of course, then you have to wonder why Joanna doesn't have driver goon grab Elliot himself and get Tyrell's location/status from him. Maybe another point for institution theory, Elliot being out of reach?
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Aug 6, 2016 01:45
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Has Joanna spoken to Tyrell over the phone? In the last call he didn't, but I can't remember prior phone calls. I think the Tyrell that Eliott spoke to on the phone isn't real; the slow rate at which he spoke, the way he drew out his words ("Boonssooirrr.....Elliot"). I'm not diving into Elliot being Tyrell all this time, but that the Tyrell we know is probably dead and the phone call Elliot got was just another trick by Mr. Robot.
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Aug 6, 2016 01:56
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Hmm also, is chez Tyrell on the same street as the fsoc 2.0 hq? The buildings over the road as Joanne ran out, and when Darlene answered the door to Angela looked very similar.
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Aug 6, 2016 02:19
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Episode 9 is a loving rollercoaster, holy poo poo.
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Aug 6, 2016 02:34
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Also the glasses which are reoccuring
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Aug 6, 2016 11:09
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Snak posted:Hahahaha Darlene is Elliot's sister. That's amazing. The best part about the Darlene reveal is that (spoilers for S1, I guess)afterwards, I couldn't help but notice that Chaikin and Malek have similar facial features, which is some good casting on top of the acting ability.
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Aug 6, 2016 14:07
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Another thing I noticed to add to the institution is Elliot never pays for anything. He doesn't pay at the dinner, or pay his friend that got him the speed. Add that to we haven't seen the "controlling" mother. Rays dog could be real as pet therapy has real applications. Now that I think about it, the only people he interacts with are Ray, his friend from the restaurant , Angela, Darlene and the group. Also I may be forgetting something but the only places we have seen are the park, the kitchen table, the restaurant, group meeting place and now Rays place.
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Aug 6, 2016 15:11
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Well, the jumpscare towards the end of the latest episode got me. I was worried season 2 wouldn't be as good as the first but I'm digging it. e: BD Wong's stare down at the meeting table was amazing
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Aug 6, 2016 15:25
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Pussy Cartel posted:Elliot's an AI and Tyrell is his creator. It all makes sense now. I haven't seen season 2 yet so I'm skipping everything between page 39 and now but I was incorrectly led to believe that Mr Robot was about a literal robot or at least an android or something. I mean I realized a few episodes in that Elliot wasn't a robot but drat, poo poo was weird going in thinking he was.
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Aug 6, 2016 15:36
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joebuddah posted:Another thing I noticed to add to the institution is Elliot never pays for anything. He doesn't pay at the dinner, or pay his friend that got him the speed. Add that to we haven't seen the "controlling" mother. Rays dog could be real as pet therapy has real applications. He also never goes to the bathroom which would make sense cause he's a robot. And he never takes a shower because it would make him rust. It's so obvious when you think about it.
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Aug 6, 2016 16:12
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Collateral posted:They already think Tyrell did it though. Wouldn't finding Elliot in that car actually help Tyrell's defence. i.e. Elliot framed Tyrell for everything and held him hostage somewhere. This is where I'm at. I'm confused why she's helping Elliot
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Aug 6, 2016 16:22
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AAA DOLFAN posted:This is where I'm at. I'm confused why she's helping Elliot Because he's Tyrell, duh. Seriously though I think this is a spot where the show is obfuscating too many plot points and character motives. Every single character is now tied to their own distinct mysteries and it's becoming overwhelming.
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Aug 6, 2016 17:32
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I'm pretty sure she interacted with Mr. Robot sometime in the three days that Eliot doesn't remember. That's why she acted so strange when they had their conversation last season.
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Aug 6, 2016 17:55
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joebuddah posted:Another thing I noticed to add to the institution is Elliot never pays for anything. He doesn't pay at the dinner, or pay his friend that got him the speed. Add that to we haven't seen the "controlling" mother. Rays dog could be real as pet therapy has real applications. Another reason I have not heard yet but that fits is that if he was really living with his mom, he wouldn't have to sell out to Ray just to be able to access the internet.
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Aug 6, 2016 17:59
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Guess Elliot shouldn't've been looking at craigslist while on the job.
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Aug 6, 2016 18:09
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Why do they shoot almost every scene in this show with the top of the character's heads at exactly 50% of the screen height
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Aug 6, 2016 18:28
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:Why do they shoot almost every scene in this show with the top of the character's heads at exactly 50% of the screen height They do a lot of awkward positioning. Frequently, when Elliot is talking to someone else, shots of him will put him all the way on the edge of side of the screen that he is looking towards, leaving the rest of the screen to be just background behind his head. It conveys the awkwardness of Elliot and how he is focused internally, rather than externally.
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Bro Dad posted:Really? I thought it was because she was growing to like Dom and felt bad about setting her up along with all the FBI people. Sure, you could read it like that. I find her characterization to be intentionally ambivalent - hard for me to say how much empathy she truly feels. I don't think she really cares either way about killing someone. She's a lot like Tyrells wife I feel.
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