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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Ever since finding out that Rank 53 is a threshold to go from 60 points end of season to 80 I've been hovering around 52 and finding it impossible to break why would people complain about d.va anyway, she's amazing now
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Manatee Cannon posted:why would people complain about d.va anyway, she's amazing now Depends on the match but sometimes people get really upset if you back any more than 1 support and 1 tank (50s)
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resistentialism posted:I got past 65 solo queuing as lucio, ymmv. What does that have to do with playing quick play?
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Aug 8, 2016 16:46
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Depends on the match but sometimes people get really upset if you back any more than 1 support and 1 tank (50s) that sucks since double support is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than just one and having two tanks is good e: tho people that think one support is fine (even if it's zen) persist even into the 60s and 70s on both pc and console and it sucks Manatee Cannon fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Aug 8, 2016 |
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Aug 8, 2016 16:49
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Duck and Cover posted:What does that have to do with playing quick play? If you can't tell then this is one of the problems with your comp game, at least solo queue with strangers.
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Aug 8, 2016 18:04
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Depends on the match but sometimes people get really upset if you back any more than 1 support and 1 tank (50s) I haven't seen that in any of my matches. Nobody has complained about me picking D.Va (yet)... although my sample size is a bit small, just 12 matches. D.Va is loving amazing, and you should pick her if you're good with her despite any complaining. Make sure you have Rein with you on Payload/2 CP maps though.
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Aug 8, 2016 18:16
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Manatee Cannon posted:why would people complain about d.va anyway, she's amazing now Dva is great fun, oh except if you are literally anyone but the person playing as her
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Aug 8, 2016 18:34
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My only issue with Dva is that usually it means Rein + Dva, and I'd rather have Rein + Roadhog because of the picks Roadhog can get with his hook. - applies more to Payload/CP than too koth.
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Aug 8, 2016 18:41
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i'm at rank 55 and i'm just hoping to hit 56 before next week for the extra chunk of planet lunch ploids even if i do i'll still be about 170 ploids short of a golden gun. comp matches take too long
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Aug 8, 2016 18:46
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I've been stuck at 58/59 because of some poor team comps and it hurts so badly. I just want 60 dammit! (going to hit 60 then complain that I'm close to 65 but not there)
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100 levels in now, I'm finally realizing that Overwatch really needs some UI customization options. I don't need my super meter in the middle, that's where I want my health bar. The ammo counter needs to be larger, or at least change colors when I'm low on ammo. I want my kill feed to be in the lower left. And I want to auto-mute all offensive Symmetra and Torbs, because their opinions are dead to me.
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Snostorm posted:100 levels in now, I'm finally realizing that Overwatch really needs some UI customization options. I don't need my super meter in the middle, that's where I want my health bar. The ammo counter needs to be larger, or at least change colors when I'm low on ammo. I want my kill feed to be in the lower left. And I want to auto-mute all offensive Symmetra and Torbs, because their opinions are dead to me.
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Aug 8, 2016 19:00
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Jeff Kaplan posted:Apologies for this bug. We've attempted to fix it numerous times and have had unrelated issues preventing the fix. We hope to have a fix this week. About time. 
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Aug 8, 2016 19:09
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so if I qualified at 46 I get the 45+ reward, right
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Efexeye posted:so if I qualified at 46 I get the 45+ reward, right yeah it's whatever the highest rank you attained during the season is
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Cowcaster posted:i'm at rank 55 and i'm just hoping to hit 56 before next week for the extra chunk of planet lunch ploids Same here. I've been steadily climbing and I'm up to 55, but I only have about 60 comp wins so there's no way I'm getting a gun at the end of this season.
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Aug 8, 2016 19:26
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MacheteZombie posted:My only issue with Dva is that usually it means Rein + Dva, and I'd rather have Rein + Roadhog because of the picks Roadhog can get with his hook. - applies more to Payload/CP than too koth. The reason why i choose DVa is because Roadhog charges ult for the enemy too much. As Dva, i can keep up the Reinhardt shield up much longer. I actively block incoming damage to it. I also block a lot of firestrikes so the other Reinhardt won't get earthshatter as much. That plus i'm more mobile and can flank kill pretty decently. Moonmoon stopped playing roadhog (even though he's amazing at him) and switched to Dva for this reason.
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It's less that defense matrix is amazing and more that Zenyatta being in every match means that Roadhog gets hosed into the dirt 90% of the time.
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Bolow posted:It's less that defense matrix is amazing and more that Zenyatta being in every match means that Roadhog gets hosed into the dirt 90% of the time. That too. I keep up my defense matrix up a lot, so i'm not as impacted by discord orbs (even though those orbs go through my matrix).
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Aug 8, 2016 19:52
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A good Roadhog can be annoying to play against as D.Va because you're a huge target for his hooks, but OTOH a bad Roadhog feeds your ult meter every 30 seconds and it's awesome.
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Aug 8, 2016 19:54
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MacheteZombie posted:I've been stuck at 58/59 because of some poor team comps and it hurts so badly. I just want 60 dammit! (going to hit 60 then complain that I'm close to 65 but not there) Getting over the 59 hump and breaking into 60 was super satisfying. I only stayed at 60 for 2 matches in the same session before I dropped back down to 59 though, but whatever, got my points!
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Mister Fister posted:The reason why i choose DVa is because Roadhog charges ult for the enemy too much. As Dva, i can keep up the Reinhardt shield up much longer. I actively block incoming damage to it. I also block a lot of firestrikes so the other Reinhardt won't get earthshatter as much. That plus i'm more mobile and can flank kill pretty decently. A Roadhog should be hiding behind Rein's shield though. On the initial choke to Hanamura a good Roadhog can make or break pushes. Just one good hook swings the whole fight in the hog's team's favor. I'm not saying a Hog > DVa at all times, but I do think he provides more bang for you buck on those initial CP/Payload pushes. Maybe less so on Payload (excluding the CP points of KR, Holly, or Numb). Also, Moonmoon is using roadhog on the first point of Volskya defense as I type this. So if you want to use him as an example, he totally still sees the value in hog. teagone posted:Getting over the 59 hump and breaking into 60 was super satisfying. I only stayed at 60 for 2 matches in the same session before I dropped back down to 59 though, but whatever, got my points! I was over halfway to 60 last night (like 59.7 ot 59.8) lost one match and went to 58.9 because the game thinks I should have carried my whole team or something. Oh well, I should be able to get there.
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exquisite tea posted:A good Roadhog can be annoying to play against as D.Va because you're a huge target for his hooks, but OTOH a bad Roadhog feeds your ult meter every 30 seconds and it's awesome. I find that even if Roadhog hooks me, i can escape pretty easily, he can't hook/shot/melee kill me at full health, and i can boost away, or defense matrix then boost away if my boost is on cool down. Also, i've been getting lots of kills on Roadhog because of DVa's superior mobility. If i can get the drop on him and he's isolated, even if he hooks me, i'll usually win the battle. Usually, i'm so close to him in a battle, even his self heal is useless because i'm getting a poo poo ton of close range critical shots on him and i can outdamage him.
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MacheteZombie posted:A Roadhog should be hiding behind Rein's shield though. On the initial choke to Hanamura a good Roadhog can make or break pushes. Just one good hook swings the whole fight in the hog's team's favor. I'm not saying a Hog > DVa at all times, but I do think he provides more bang for you buck on those initial CP/Payload pushes. Maybe less so on Payload (excluding the CP points of KR, Holly, or Numb). Well, i've been watching him a lot and he mostly plays DVa.
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Mister Fister posted:I find that even if Roadhog hooks me, i can escape pretty easily, he can't hook/shot/melee kill me at full health, and i can boost away, or defense matrix then boost away if my boost is on cool down. Also, i've been getting lots of kills on Roadhog because of DVa's superior mobility. If i can get the drop on him and he's isolated, even if he hooks me, i'll usually win the battle. Usually, i'm so close to him in a battle, even his self heal is useless because i'm getting a poo poo ton of close range critical shots on him and i can outdamage him. A good Roadhog should only be hooking a DVa when his team is there to help melt her down immediately. Otherwise it's a wasted hook imo. Obviously my points are applying to comp and not qp, where anything is possible haha.
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I had a Roadhog hook me 3 times during sudden death defense of Hollywood, playing as Zen. Twice i got stuck on geometry and the third time Zarya saved me, it was awesome and we won.
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MacheteZombie posted:A good Roadhog should only be hooking a DVa when his team is there to help melt her down immediately. Otherwise it's a wasted hook imo. Obviously my points are applying to comp and not qp, where anything is possible haha. Eh, defense matrix absorbs an infinite amount of damage (with the exception of Zarya, Symmetra, Winston, and i guess Melee attacks) in 4 seconds, even if i do get pulled into a group, i have a pretty good chance of getting away. I dunno, i think i'm pretty drat productive in comp as Dva and even beat Moonmoon in a lot of categories and he's ranked as the #2 Dva on overbuff* https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/MOONMOON/heroes/dva?mode=competitive https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/MFister-1576/heroes/dva?mode=competitive *if you ignore the sample size and the fact that he plays against better competition  I don't think i'd be nearly as productive on roadhog. Edit: I also play DVa better in comp than quickplay for some reason. Mister Fister fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Aug 8, 2016 |
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Hot Take: D. Va is OP.
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Jastiger posted:Hot Take: D. Va is OP. maybe. the only tweak i'd like is making her grid burn down faster based on how many/magnitude of the projectiles it eats. aside from her pacmanning everything in sight though she A) still has a giant faceplate made of sugar glass and 2) shotguns that do the closest thing to zero damage beyond spitting distance. i feel more threatened by any other tank than her (except for maybe winston if i'm not playing a fragile hero)
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"Nerf this  ", Dva says, unaware that she is not being as sarcastic as she thinks she is
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One of my most successful Volskaya defensive holds we had Reaper/McCree/Zenyatta/Lucio/Roadhog/Winston. I would just bubble down and hog would fish from the bubble at the chokepoint, and when my bubble went down we would just hide behind the truck. We just never peeked, and when the enemy would roll in under a lucio speed boost we would immediately counterboost, I would jump into the middle of their team at the choke to body block their supports/DPS in the rear, and everyone else would collapse on them to pick off whoever slipped the choke point. It was a full 7 minute hold on the first point because we just didn't engage in skirmishing besides fishing for an easy pick with hog hooks until they committed to the knife fight that we were at a huge advantage in. Hog is really, really good but you can't afford to do flanking hog anymore, you have to pocket with the team and only engage when they engage.
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Cowcaster posted:maybe. the only tweak i'd like is making her grid burn down faster based on how many/magnitude of the projectiles it eats. aside from her pacmanning everything in sight though she A) still has a giant faceplate made of sugar glass and 2) shotguns that do the closest thing to zero damage beyond spitting distance. i feel more threatened by any other tank than her (except for maybe winston if i'm not playing a fragile hero) What class do you mostly play? Dva is quite an offensive threat, i just think most people don't play her correctly. Her range is about 15 meters in terms of good damage being dealt, and her boosters make her a big threat as she can close the gap raelly quickly.
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Jastiger posted:Hot Take: D. Va is OP. I mean not really
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Mister Fister posted:What class do you mostly play? Dva is quite an offensive threat, i just think most people don't play her correctly. Her range is about 15 meters in terms of good damage being dealt, and her boosters make her a big threat as she can close the gap raelly quickly. tracer, soldier, zenyatta, zarya. mccree more often than soldier now actually since he got that range boost. every once in a while reaper or genji if i'm being a sassy boy. symmetra on the couple of maps that warrant it.
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Mister Fister posted:Eh, defense matrix absorbs an infinite amount of damage (with the exception of Zarya, Symmetra, Winston, and i guess Melee attacks) in 4 seconds, even if i do get pulled into a group, i have a pretty good chance of getting away. Not if I'm shooting your backside. If a Hog hooks you into his party, they're hopefully surrounding you a bit. Discord, melt, repeat on baby DVa. This is veering away from my initial point. Roadhog can create picks with his hook that a lot of other classes can't do as easily. They hook any class that peaks just long enough and being down one warm body in a team fight usually means you lose the team fight. Which is vital to pushing through those initial chokes on control points. Commoners posted:It was a full 7 minute hold on the first point because we just didn't engage in skirmishing besides fishing for an easy pick with hog hooks until they committed to the knife fight that we were at a huge advantage in. Hog is really, really good but you can't afford to do flanking hog anymore, you have to pocket with the team and only engage when they engage. This
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Cowcaster posted:tracer, soldier, zenyatta, zarya. every once in a while reaper or genji if i'm being a sassy boy. symmetra on the couple of maps that warrant it. As Dva, all but Zarya are easy kills for me, or at best neutral, since tracer can blink away quickly. Tracer battles are pretty funny because her pistols do almost nothing to me since my health is mostly armor and i can time my defense matrix toggles to absorb almost all her shots. Dva is a very unpopular pick and many people who play her don't do so correctly. Watch Moonmoon's stream and you can see that she is great at killing a lot of heros.
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Cowcaster posted:maybe. the only tweak i'd like is making her grid burn down faster based on how many/magnitude of the projectiles it eats. aside from her pacmanning everything in sight though she A) still has a giant faceplate made of sugar glass and 2) shotguns that do the closest thing to zero damage beyond spitting distance. i feel more threatened by any other tank than her (except for maybe winston if i'm not playing a fragile hero) Dude this is literally waht I posted a few weeks ago and everyone called me a moron, you are reported, CowCaster
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Jastiger posted:Dude this is literally waht I posted a few weeks ago and everyone called me a moron, you are reported, CowCaster Oh yeah well you are reported!!!! To the obituaries!!! Because you're dead!!!
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Mister Fister posted:As Dva, all but Zarya are easy kills for me, or at best neutral, since tracer can blink away quickly. Tracer battles are pretty funny because her pistols do almost nothing to me since my health is mostly armor and i can time my defense matrix toggles to absorb almost all her shots. If Zen is an easy kill for you as Dva then I feel like you're playing bad Zens. Or I'm playing bad Dvas.
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