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Govt DDOS itself to bury the Nauru files
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:06 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 07:31 |
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Just read the comments if you want to know how most Australians, if pressed, will react: - We're stopping thousands of people dying at sea - They're just economic migrants anyway - All the bleeding heart greenies working there encourage them to hurt themselves so they come to Australia - It's the other asylum seekers who are the pedophiles and we don't want people like that coming here - I'm a stupid racist piece of poo poo and my butt stinks and I like to smell my own butt
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:41 |
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freebooter posted:Just read the comments if you want to know how most Australians, if pressed, will react: Sadly unless you are part of the minority of Australian's who need to see this systematic cruelty changed, you will be swayed towards one of the above justifications
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:53 |
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Well it was the train wreck we had to have I suppose. Following on from the entire Privacy PR trainwreck the ABS immediately faceplanted a jumbo jet full of their own hubris into the still smouldering wreckage. Well loving done muppets! http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-10/could-our-privacy-be-at-risk-after-census-hack/7712442 quote:Census: Privacy not 'absolutely' safe after website attack from overseas hackers, expert says Updated 19 minutes ago Rob Livingstone And here's our genius Minister http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...808-gqnobg.html quote:Minister says Census 'no worse than Facebook' as Nick Xenophon risks jail In nothing new: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/quality-of-census-data-will-be-'compromised'/7712458 quote:Quality of census data will be 'compromised' says Andrew Leigh Wednesday 10 August 2016 6:49AM (view full episode) Facebook you say? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-10/controversial-facebook-page-blokes-advice-shut-down/7712300 quote:Facebook removes Blokes Advice page after anti-domestic violence petition launched By Kym Agius Updated 32 minutes ago Yeah we want our ABS just like facebook. Much ado indeed.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:56 |
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-10/abs-website-not-attacked-or-hacked:-mccormack/7713002quote:The minister responsible for the census has directly contradicted the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) by saying its website was not attacked on census night, despite confirming that the site was shut down after repeated denial of service attempts.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 03:35 |
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It was not attacked, it was merely shut down after being attacked.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 03:40 |
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I know we're all capable of being angry about 2 (or more) things at once, but I suspect they made this dumb contradiction on purpose to shift the narrative away from the Nauru files.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 03:41 |
There was a link I saw on twitter to the Australian who appear to be reporting on Nauru papers, but I'm not going to give them my click.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 03:45 |
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[I CSPW [REDACTED] WAS SPEAKING WITH [REDACTED] ON THE GRASS ABOVE THE SECURITY ENTRANCE OF AREA9. [REDACTED] INFORMED ME THAT HER HUSBAND [REDACTED] HAD REPORTED 4 MONTHS AGO TO HER THAT HE HAD BEEN IN A CAR WITH HIS [REDACTED] YEAR OLD SON WITH 2 NAURUAN WILSONS SECURITY OFFICERS, [REDACTED] STATED THAT ACCORDING TO [REDACTED], [REDACTED] WAS SITTING IN-BETWEEN HIMSELF AND THE SECURITY OFFICER. [REDACTED] STATED THAT THIS CAR WAS TAKING THE TWO FROM AREA9 TO IHMS RPC3. [REDACTED] ALLEDGED THAT [REDACTED] INFORMED HER THAT THEIR SON [REDACTED] HAD SAID TO [REDACTED] THAT ONE NAURUAN OFFICER HAD PUT HIS HAND UP [REDACTED] SHORTS AND WAS PLAYING WITH HIS BOTTOM. [REDACTED] THEN REPORTED THAT [REDACTED] STATED THAT HE REMOVED [REDACTED] FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE CAR AND PLACED [REDACTED] ON HIS LAP BUT DID NOT SAY ANYTHING AS HE FEARED THE TWO NAURUAN OFFICERS IN THE CAR WITH HIM. [REDACTED] INFORMED CSPW [REDACTED] THAT SHE HAD REPORTED THIS TO IMMIGRATION OFFICERS IN BRISBANE WHEN SHE WAS RECENTLY MEDIVAC'D ( WITHIN THE LAST TWO WEEKS) NOTE: RATING CHANGED BY WILSONS] Glad that Wilsons has such great oversight
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 03:45 |
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The conspiracy theorist in me thinks here has to be more going on - you don't shut down a website because of a ddos, when the extra ddos traffic drops off the website just starts working again. Unless they went over their quota.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 03:48 |
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They got hacked, homes
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 03:51 |
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BBJoey posted:They got hacked, homes This, but I know a dude who works in that specific industry who has had an instance where they've had to salt the earth and pull the plug. I think it was something to do with the attack being so bad they couldn't even get to their own load balancers internally to try and shut down incoming connections.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 03:53 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQLYFfOKe8s
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 04:05 |
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Looks like no-one else aside from the Guardian is giving much coverage to the Nauru docs. Predictable but still maddening.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 04:16 |
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"Here's some more evidence of all the abhorrent poo poo you already knew was happening and probably don't care about" was never going to have much impact.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 05:07 |
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Treasurer Scott Morrison, a former immigration minister, pointed out that the reports were only allegations. "It's important to stress that incidents reports of themselves aren't a reporting of fact, they are a reporting that an allegation has been made," he told reporters in Sydney alongside the prime minister. For gently caress's sake
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 05:16 |
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Abusing refugees was always the plan. Sends a strong message to people smugglers.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 05:19 |
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Knorth posted:Treasurer Scott Morrison, a former immigration minister, pointed out that the reports were only allegations. "It's important to stress that incidents reports of themselves aren't a reporting of fact, they are a reporting that an allegation has been made," he told reporters in Sydney alongside the prime minister. With his ability to downplay allegations of child rape, I'm amazed that he's not Catholic.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 05:19 |
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open24hours posted:Abusing refugees was always the plan. Sends a strong message to people smugglers. Before I say anything, are you serious or being sarcastic? Can't tell.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 05:19 |
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Knorth posted:Treasurer Scott Morrison, a former immigration minister, pointed out that the reports were only allegations. "It's important to stress that incidents reports of themselves aren't a reporting of fact, they are a reporting that an allegation has been made," he told reporters in Sydney alongside the prime minister. Holy poo poo please sew your fat loving mouth shut Morrison
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 05:22 |
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Knorth posted:Treasurer Scott Morrison, a former immigration minister, pointed out that the reports were only allegations. "It's important to stress that incidents reports of themselves aren't a reporting of fact, they are a reporting that an allegation has been made," he told reporters in Sydney alongside the prime minister.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 05:24 |
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Starshark posted:Before I say anything, are you serious or being sarcastic? Can't tell. New thread title.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 05:31 |
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Starshark posted:Before I say anything, are you serious or being sarcastic? Can't tell. The government has access to all the advice they need to prevent this kind of thing from happening. Any argument that it was unpredictable or unexpected strains credibility.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 06:13 |
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I mean they literally tell us blatantly that they're using the concentration camps as deterrents, of course this stuff is intended.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 06:16 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I mean they literally tell us blatantly that they're using the concentration camps as deterrents, of course this stuff is intended. Yeah this is the intended outcome of the concentration camps, anyone arguing that these reports just contain unfortunate side effects are deluding themselves. I am not looking forward to seeing the true scale of the damage to people, however.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 06:39 |
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We are the villains of this story, and we can only hope that the future will be just enough that it will remember us as such.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 06:45 |
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:We are the villains of this story, and we can only hope that the future will be just enough that it will remember us as such. We had no way of knowing what our government was doing, they told us they were processing asylum applications in as fast and humanitarian way as possible. If we had known of the abuses of course we would not have supported the policies, what do you take us for, monsters?
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 06:47 |
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http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/is-the-census-really-no-worse-than-facebook/7711450quote:Is the census really 'no worse than Facebook'? POSTED TUE 9 AUG 2016, 7:07PM Updated Tue 9 Aug 2016, 7:20pm A vague push for an enquiry is all I can see in the news feeds. Well apart from calls to abandon this census and try again later. The minister (Michael McCormack) has handled this appallingly badly and shown himself to have a very slender grasp on the issues in play. What clearer case for dismissal have we seen recently (Well apart from every Border Farce minister)?
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 07:12 |
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I don't expect anything more than cursory reporting on the gently caress up and privacy advocate concerns. The people broadcasting the messages are reliant on any combination of clicks and advertisers, which is reliant on marketing, which is reliant on statistics to build accurate market segment profiles of who you are, what you're worth and how we can get your loving money/attention.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 08:36 |
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Anyone know of any snap events being organised to rally for refugees, in the wake of the latest Guardian news? Between the 2000 incident reports and boat towbacks, seems like the perfect time to tap some outrage and get demonstrations going.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 09:01 |
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No one is going to take notice until there is video.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 09:49 |
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Bifauxnen posted:Anyone know of any snap events being organised to rally for refugees, in the wake of the latest Guardian news? Between the 2000 incident reports and boat towbacks, seems like the perfect time to tap some outrage and get demonstrations going. I'm not aware of any snap events so far, but there's this event scheduled for Aug27 which is a Saturday. Here's the Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/events/521484394717053/ And here's the details of the event for those who aren't Facebook users: "*Close the camps and bring the refugees here *Permanent protection not Temporary visas *End Islamophobic scapegoating *Boat rescues not boat turnbacks Speakers include: Adam Bandt Greens MP for Melbourne, Pamela Curr from the ASRC and more TBA After the election, increase the pressure to close the camps During the election, Malcolm Turnbull and Immigration Minister Peter Dutton tried to use the refugee issue to win votes. But despite the scare campaign, the election was far from an endorsement of Turnbull. The Coalition only narrowly avoided election defeat, and holds the thinnest of majorities. The end of August marks 15 years since the Tampa affair, when then Liberal Prime Minister John Howard sent the SAS onto the Tampa to stop a boatload of refugees reaching Australia. Now the Coalition’s promises to “stop the boats” and keep out refugees are no longer the winning electoral formula they seemed in the past. Manus Island set to close The system of offshore detention is facing a major crisis over Manus Island. On 26 April the PNG Supreme Court held that detention on Manus Island was unlawful and the detention centre would have to close. Further court action in PNG is under way, in an effort to force both PNG and Australia to act on the ruling. But there is nowhere else for the Manus asylum seekers and refugees to come but Australia. The same is true on Nauru, where there are no arrangement for permanent resettlement of those found to be refugees. We need to keep up the pressure to demand the government “Bring them here”. And we need to demand all refugees receive permanent visas, not Temporary Protection Visas where the threat of being sent back to danger hangs over them. The tide of public opinion is shifting. A strong majority of people now want those found to be refugees on Manus Island and Nauru to come to Australia. And the overwhelming majority will be found to be refugees. The 267 asylum seekers in Australia from Nauru and Manus Island have still not been returned to Manus or Nauru, thanks to the “Let them stay” movement earlier this year. However at least one of those 267 has been taken to Christmas Island. We need to step up the pressure to close the camps and bring them all here." I'll be there as usual, and I'll be getting as much footage as I can with my new gopro for a project I'm working on.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 09:50 |
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open24hours posted:The government has access to all the advice they need to prevent this kind of thing from happening. Any argument that it was unpredictable or unexpected strains credibility. Yeah, but they're not sending the message to the people smugglers - they couldn't give a gently caress what happens to their cargo once it's dropped off and I haven't heard of any smugglers going into the camps. They're trying to scare off refugees.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 09:53 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:No one is going to take notice until there is video. we could have video of that dude self immolating and no one would take notice
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 09:53 |
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Seagull posted:we could have video of that dude self immolating and no one would take notice Yeah I've personally witnessed people try to justify their racial discrimination by saying such filth like "These people burn themselves alive in front of their family just because they can't get their way? Why would we want them here?" And this one.. "He only lit himself on fire because they don't have access to weapons like guns and stuff, he would have loved to kill everyone there if he could" Human makes me sad, more oft than not..
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 09:59 |
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So I think I know what happened last night. Hmmm...lots of international IP's hitting us. Must be HACKERS. Ha, those hackers are barly pushing out limits. It's no issue., In reality, the foreign IP's are users using VPN's they bought to watch Game of Thrones. No hackers involved.However, from here on, we are seconds from disaster. Several hours later. Hmm, lots more IP's from the US. Hackers. Our FIREWALLS and CYBERSECURITY are handling it. Better let the Minister know. They let the newbie Minister know. He starts to panic, but is told by the network managers it's nothing to worry about. Several hours later. Most of Australia is home from work, and logs in. Hmm, lots of hits...huh? Graph is going up.. We're getting data still...logs are too big to process and the only tool we have are some graphs of traffic and hits...it's going up. And up. Uhh...ah oh. 10 million households all try in the same hour SERVER THAT HANDLES GEOBLOCKING GOES DOWN. PANIC PANIC PANIC OH poo poo GET THE NETWORK ENGINEER ON THE LINE CALL CISCO TAC CALL IBM CALL MANAGEMENT CALL THE MINISTER I CAN'T TELL YOU WANTS WRONG BUT THINGS ARE NOT WORKING AND OH poo poo I CAN'T TELL YOU IF ITS AN ATTACK OR NOT BECAUSE OUR ROUTER IS DOWN OUR LOGS ARE DOWN OUR GRAPHS ARE DOWN AND WE'RE IN FULL PANIC MODE IT MUST BE THE HACKERS. Management calls the Minister who wants know when it will be fixed. Management dosn't know. The techies don't know because their tools are on the router which is dead. Router comes up, get hit by another 10 million connections and goes down again. Techies spent an hour trying to work out what's wrong but have so much information and so many questions coming in they can't find the cause. After an hour the head tech tells management he told them so, and the system can't handle it, and they need to redesign it. Which will take longer than tonight. Management calls Minister who calls Prime Minister who asks his 9 year old nephew what to do and he says SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING while they need to spend time working out what happened and if it was the attack they all feared and jumped to a conclusion too. An hour later they send a tweet saying to try tomorrow. Comstar fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Aug 10, 2016 |
# ? Aug 10, 2016 10:34 |
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I like to think it's as simple as they ran the census website via some dusty old router in a government server room thinking that it would be just fine because it works every other day of the week, right? I mean if half the office can stream YouTube music to their headphones while they work then sure it can handle a mere 25 million website queries. It's all text right? It'll be fiiiiiine.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 10:45 |
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my knowledge of hacking isnt really huge, but isnt a DDoS basically the same thing as 'an entire nation of people trying to access the same website at the same time'?
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 11:20 |
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Laserface posted:my knowledge of hacking isnt really huge, but isnt a DDoS basically the same thing as 'an entire nation of people trying to access the same website at the same time'? It's exactly the same thing.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 11:27 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 07:31 |
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Seagull posted:we could have video of that dude self immolating and no one would take notice People won't give a poo poo even if it happens in front of them, because culturally we have a huge loving problem with ever admitting we were wrong. The whole narrative of our cultural history is about disingenuously appearing as the "underdog". Our brave colonists tamed this untamable land without help from Britain, our convicts struggled under the oppression of Britain, our soldiers died an honourable death at Gallipoli for Britain, our cricket team didn't deserve to lose the Ashes to Britain, etc, etc, etc. Whereas really we're actually the national equivalent of that spoilt kid everyone knew in school, the one who'd kick up a poo poo if things didn't go exactly their way and would bully anyone they thought was beneath them.
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# ? Aug 10, 2016 11:31 |