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ductonius posted:It doesn't really help that we really don't need nuclear with all the hydroelectricity we have available. Hydroelectricity has its own set of problems. Besides being ecologically damaging, it can potentially ruin drinking water due to the leeching of mercury in soil. That said, Site C is really the last hydroelectric project of significance in British Columbia. Anything in the future will be much smaller.
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Powershift posted:That'll never happen because they can't take the construction labourers off of the luxury condos long enough to build one. They should do it. Pulp mill in the east, cattle processing plant in the north. Throw a nuclear plant south and we got an uproar of nimbys. Holy poo poo im loving it. It will never happen because like someone said, we got enough hydroelectric that it just doesn't make sense.
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Aug 10, 2016 05:31
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There are wind farms in the Northeast where a lot of the hydroelectric is (including Site C) so never give up hope, nothing is impossible, not even nuclear if you're a massive company and you've got the ear of the government!
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Aug 10, 2016 05:53
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Starve rural BC of jobs and industry imo gently caress rural culture
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Aug 10, 2016 05:59
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namaste faggots posted:Starve rural BC of jobs and industry imo But then they'll come to the city and die of fentanyl overdoses, and you don't really want to have to deal with their corpses, do you?
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Aug 10, 2016 06:00
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PT6A posted:But then they'll come to the city and die of fentanyl overdoses, and you don't really want to have to deal with their corpses, do you? Sort of already happening: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/unemployed-albertans-inundate-vancouver-homeless-shelters-1.3705821 quote:Unemployed Albertans moving west in search of work are flooding Vancouver's homeless shelters, says a social worker in that city's downtown eastside.
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OSI bean dip posted:Sort of already happening: 
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Aug 10, 2016 06:05
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https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/08/09/real-estate-agents-sales-pitch-to-bereaved-bc-man-creates-storm.html Vancouver real estate was the subject of the second part of Gogol's Dead Souls. Flocons de Jambon fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Aug 10, 2016 |
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Aug 10, 2016 08:08
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Most of Vancouver Island is already clear-cut (except for a couple hundred metres on either sides of roads and hills facing the roads so people don't notice. Perfect place for turbines.
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Aug 10, 2016 14:57
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OSI bean dip posted:Hydroelectricity has its own set of problems. Besides being ecologically damaging, it can potentially ruin drinking water due to the leeching of mercury in soil. Oh, absolutely, and I actually favour using nuclear instead of hydroelectricity simply because it's overall environmental footprint is much smaller than anything else. However, tying to sell nuclear to the public while there's still a creek to dam is a fool's errand, because, you know, "atoms".
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Aug 11, 2016 00:59
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Sometimes I wonder how much suffering the world is going to endure largely because the Simpsons writers made Homer work at a loving nuclear plant (which they totally misrepresent, of course). I mean, this is the post-cold-war, post-Chernobyl generation -- millennials shouldn't have any reason to be afraid of nuclear power.
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ductonius posted:Oh, absolutely, and I actually favour using nuclear instead of hydroelectricity simply because it's overall environmental footprint is much smaller than anything else. Where would you like to put nuclear waste?
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Aug 11, 2016 01:54
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RBC posted:Where would you like to put nuclear waste? A breeder reactor.
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Aug 11, 2016 02:00
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_geological_repository
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Aug 11, 2016 02:01
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oh yeah the $1 billion depository were building 1km from lake huron that wont even deal with high level waste lmao
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Aug 11, 2016 02:27
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It's not CanPol without a series of boring fawning/hyperbolic posts about nuclear power along with still-hilarious sarcastic 'atomz' quips. Well actually this isn't CanPol at all.
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Aug 11, 2016 02:30
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lets just ignore that nuclear half lives are even a thing and we have no plan whatsoever to deal with the millions of cubic meters of nuclear waste we already have, never mind adding more to it
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RBC posted:Where would you like to put nuclear waste? There are plenty of empty condo apartments in the lower mainland.
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Aug 11, 2016 02:56
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Just do what we do with asbestos and sell it to third world countries as insulation. Self warming insulation, the brochure writes itself.
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RBC posted:Where would you like to put nuclear waste? Reprocessed and back in a CANDU reactor. They can burn actinides as fuel, you know. Heavy water reactors have ballin' neutron efficiency, yo.
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Aug 11, 2016 03:15
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Omg u guys the nuclear waste won't someone think of the children
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Aug 11, 2016 04:04
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Send all the nuclear waste to the Arctic. Gets rid of it and wards off those pesky Russians for maximum Arctic sovereignty
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RBC posted:lets just ignore that nuclear half lives are even a thing and we have no plan whatsoever to deal with the millions of cubic meters of nuclear waste we already have, never mind adding more to it we are going to bury it in the Canadian Shield near Kirkland Lake because gently caress them.
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Aug 11, 2016 04:15
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Bury it in Toronto on some major intersection
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Aug 11, 2016 04:21
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namaste faggots posted:Omg u guys the nuclear waste won't someone think of the children Most people who balk at nuclear waste have no idea about it. The problem is NIMBYism--the storage of it has been solved.
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namaste faggots posted:Bury it in Toronto on some major intersection Hell, that's how the French do it.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/nhl-tofino-fishing-1.3714856quote:NHL stars Willie Mitchell and Dan Hamhuis buy Tofino motel I can't wait to see how this ends lol 
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OSI bean dip posted:Most people who balk at nuclear waste have no idea about it. The problem is NIMBYism--the storage of it has been solved. We really need more mandatory science classes in high school, judging by the complete ignorance of the general population concerning physics (nuclear energy and materials), biology (anti-vaxxers and homeopaths) and chemistry (just look at the deranged opinions some people have about nutrition, which is essentially the intersection of chemistry and biology, as an example). Also, judging by how people write and speak, more stringent requirements for English couldn't hurt, nor could a foreign language requirement. When did a high school diploma become a thing you're entitled to by dint of fogging a mirror two times out of every three, instead of a recognition that you've attained the basic level of knowledge you need to function properly in modern society? [/rant]
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DariusLikewise posted:Send all the nuclear waste to the Arctic. Gets rid of it and wards off those pesky Russians for maximum Arctic sovereignty If you think radioactivity will keep Russians away, you don't know the Russians.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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namaste faggots posted:To make housing supply omelette you need to break a few low income eggs quote:http://www.cknw.com/2016/06/01/no-vacancy-demovictions-and-the-changing-face-of-metrotown/#.V4fkGh5_jWU.facebook lol lol Looks like the BC Liberals suddenly realized they have a new whipping boy to distract attention away from them. https://twitter.com/colemancountry/status/763530556705415168 https://twitter.com/colemancountry/status/763530620802781184 Femtosecond fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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Quack medicine isn't an education problem it's a regulatory issue. If a doctor tells me that there's nothing that can be done about my cancer I'm still going to go home and google around. There are plenty of people willing to sell you bullshit under the pretense that it can resolve your problem and it's up to the government to make sure that can't be done legally.
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cowofwar posted:Quack medicine isn't an education problem it's a regulatory issue. oh lol OK
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There are plenty of dumbass suckers with science degrees out there. You can't educate away stupidity. Also the feasibility of trying to confer advanced science educations and the ability to think critically upon Canada's average truck driver male and stay-at-home female is challenging.
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namaste faggots posted:oh lol OK It is. I know you enjoy clucking at people's bad choices to feel superior to them, but if you actually want to solve problems you can't put all the burden on those getting scammed, especially when it comes to quack medicine like homeopathy, TCM, and supplements where the snake oil sales pitch has been refined to perfection over hundreds of years. My wife has seen this first hand - you can have the entire oncology department of a children's hospital try to convince someone that the "natural vitamin cure" isn't going to work on their kid's leukemia and that the two remaining rounds of chemotherapy will but the seller of the quack cure included some talk about how corrupt Big Medicine is and the parent is so distraught over the side effects of chemo that they buy into it. The solution is to so throughly gently caress the seller of the cure (and anyone who even suggests that it in any way works) with fines and jail time that nobody else will try the same thing, not to tell the former parent "well we told you it wouldn't work, you should have known better" while they are putting their kid in the ground.
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Holy loving poo poo you social justice holy warriors are dumb as gently caress
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It doesn't loving matter of 5% of the population is too loving stupid to stay alive
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loving the seller of the quack cure with fines and jail time eventually would have a deterrent effect as well, meaning it would broadcast to potential quacks, "if you kill a kid with your homeopath cancer 'cure', you're going to prison" and hopefully that would be enough to a)stop kids dying and b) stop quacks "practicing." But I'm guessing that much like how real estate agents have the government in their pockets, alternative medicine is probably well-heeled enough to have their interests heard at the government level to ensure this doesn't happen. Or the politicians don't give a gently caress. Or both.
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peter banana posted:loving the seller of the quack cure with fines and jail time eventually would have a deterrent effect as well, meaning it would broadcast to potential quacks, "if you kill a kid with your homeopath cancer 'cure', you're going to prison" and hopefully that would be enough to a)stop kids dying and b) stop quacks "practicing." Considering homeopathic medicines can be advertised on TV, they do.
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Distraught people can be tricked into poo poo. Hell, really charismatic people can trick a lot of otherwise "smart" people into poo poo. But it's cool, those stupid people are too dumb to be alive, so their children deserve death.
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peter banana posted:loving the seller of the quack cure with fines and jail time eventually would have a deterrent effect as well, meaning it would broadcast to potential quacks, "if you kill a kid with your homeopath cancer 'cure', you're going to prison" and hopefully that would be enough to a)stop kids dying and b) stop quacks "practicing."
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