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Yes, you can get marginally stronger animals through husbandry. If I recall, the reason all animals were gigantic and bursting with muscle was because there is some simulation of survival of the fittest among creatures in an area.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Does dog eugenics really lead to stronger dogs? This is dwarf fortress.
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I knew it wasn't just placebo  In other news, Oh my god gently caress OFF ghost the majority of your body was buried in a perfectly acceptable coffin ages ago and I'm not sending some poor rear end in a top hat into the caves to search for your back molars. Anyway the whole debacle was your own fault for harassing the troglodytes for no reason so I don't care if you end up on a permanent ensure diet for the rest of your afterlife.
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Aug 11, 2016 05:34
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A werebison visited my fortress and my dudes wrestled it to death. After the fight most of the squad had to be dragged into the hospital. I found it weird that the only body was a "g", a goblin, but I didn't think much of it. Then out of nowhere my best fighter becomes a werebison, strips all his clothes off, and starts to throw dwarves into the air and against trees (there's still a body 3 tiles up on the wall). I had to lock the base down, leaving the dwarves outside to fend for themselves. (The base is above ground since I got an aquifer and winters aren't cold enough to dig through them.) At some point in the battle an elf, the guardian of the forest, comes out and engages the werebison. But after a second decides better of it and hauls rear end out of there. As of this writing the base is still on lock down. I'm not really sure what the gently caress happened but I like where it's going.
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Lpzie posted:A werebison visited my fortress and my dudes wrestled it to death. After the fight most of the squad had to be dragged into the hospital. I found it weird that the only body was a "g", a goblin, but I didn't think much of it. Then out of nowhere my best fighter becomes a werebison, strips all his clothes off, and starts to throw dwarves into the air and against trees (there's still a body 3 tiles up on the wall). I had to lock the base down, leaving the dwarves outside to fend for themselves. (The base is above ground since I got an aquifer and winters aren't cold enough to dig through them.) At some point in the battle an elf, the guardian of the forest, comes out and engages the werebison. But after a second decides better of it and hauls rear end out of there. As of this writing the base is still on lock down. I've highlighted the key part of this for you. 
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Aug 11, 2016 08:06
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This is the best game ever.
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Anchors posted:Yes, you can get marginally stronger animals through husbandry. If I recall, the reason all animals were gigantic and bursting with muscle was because there is some simulation of survival of the fittest among creatures in an area. no that was a description glitch with the body broadness/length/height modifiers multiplying each other wrong and making the perfectly average size (100% broadness, 100% height and 100% length of average) come out to something like 10000% instead of 100% the creature's actual size that was used for doing stuff was okay, the description just got a really extreme value whenever length and height were both considered for a creature at the same time
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Aug 11, 2016 12:51
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Started up a fresh game. Wagon exploded for no apparent reason. I'm feeling this update. 
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Aug 11, 2016 13:47
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Nietzschean posted:Started up a fresh game. Wagon exploded for no apparent reason. I'm feeling this update. That's been happening since Z-levels were implemented, I think. I'm pretty sure it's caused by the wagon being partially over something other than level ground, realizing it can't be constructed where it is, and immediately deconstructing itself in protest.
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Playing a bit of the LNP, I really don't think I appreciate Dwarf Therapist enough. I don't know where I would be without it.Angry Diplomat posted:That's been happening since Z-levels were implemented, I think. I'm pretty sure it's caused by the wagon being partially over something other than level ground, realizing it can't be constructed where it is, and immediately deconstructing itself in protest. It's like something out of a Douglas Adams book.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Playing a bit of the LNP, I really don't think I appreciate Dwarf Therapist enough. I don't know where I would be without it. Urist canceled dig: turning into a penguin.
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 Here lies querns the gay axedwarf, who ran outside to fight a wereskunk in the rain. His skull was melted by heinous slush. He is survived by an -iron helmet- which did nothing to stop the rain. Addamere fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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Aug 11, 2016 21:59
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I want to be able to equip my outside dwarfs with umbrellas, or better yet adorable cat leather parkas and galoshes that protect them from unhappy getting-caught-in-the-rain thoughts. And evil skull melting rain too, I guess.
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Aug 11, 2016 22:09
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Esme posted:I knew it wasn't just placebo A memorial slab will get rid of the ghost.
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Aug 11, 2016 23:24
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The wagon exploding is a really fun bug when your embark spawns you in a murky pool and you have to scramble to get all of your items out before the wet season comes.
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Aug 11, 2016 23:52
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My mayor is currently demanding a "green tree frog tooth bed in dining room." ...I...can you even make a bed out of that? Is my mayor going to go crazy or punish someone if this doesn't happen?
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Aug 11, 2016 23:55
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Only if he is still alive when the mandate expires.
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Aug 11, 2016 23:56
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dude just wants a green bed for his tree frog tooth
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Aug 11, 2016 23:56
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my dad posted:Only if he is still alive when the mandate expires. Well, he's the badass leader of my elite mace team, what if I make someone else mayor instead? I feel kind of bad, he feels "triumph to be re-elected."
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Aug 12, 2016 00:04
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It's the hammerer that doles out punishments. Failing that, jail time.
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Aug 12, 2016 00:17
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Appoint the weeniest weenie to hammerer and make sure whoever the poor sap who is going to get beat has armor. My previous hammerer got so good at her job she started beating people to death and I had to replace her.
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Aug 12, 2016 00:31
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or just completely ignore the justice system and all its positions because (unless it changed in the taverns/temples/library patch) there's no meaningful downside
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Aug 12, 2016 00:34
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Let the Dwarf die from hammering for not fulfilling the fort's needs.
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Aug 12, 2016 00:51
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Or give the Hammerer a hammer made of Adamantium because it's so light it'll be literally like your guy is getting hit with a wiffleball bat.
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Aug 12, 2016 00:56
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Sky Shadowing posted:Or give the Hammerer a hammer made of Adamantium because it's so light it'll be literally like your guy is getting hit with a wiffleball bat. Slate is the only properly just hammer material but Silver will do in a pinch. Vote Urist; he is the law and order candidate
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Aug 12, 2016 03:38
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Give your hammerer a featherwood hammer. Easier to get over adamantine. A natural platinum hammer will do for mining Goblinite.
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Aug 12, 2016 03:46
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Just give the hammerer a featherwood crossbow and make the royal guard a marksdwarf squad, so they're not worse than useless in an actual combat situation.
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Aug 12, 2016 03:52
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Kill all monarchs. Regicide is a moral good.
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I feel like I've reached a point where there is a bunch of new stuff in Dwarf Fortress that I don't even need to use, even though I want to. My current fort has happily plodded along with my favourite design: an archery tower built right atop where the wagon spawned, with ramps on opposite sides leading down a few levels to a trade depot that can be secured from above with floor hatches. Everything else goes in the levels between the surface and the depot, and the depot can be isolated. It's just now autumn, and my "archery tower" has become a 29-tile long by 17-tile wide above ground keep, and I've not even touched the military or metalworking yet because why bother? I've nearly completed my 2-story above-ground fortress footprint, and of course I'm going to train some archers to put in it; but, they're honestly redundant when I can just lock a couple of floor hatches. I feel like I've made the game unfun for myself and I don't know how to get out of it. I look at LP forts, and there's neither symmetry nor advanced planning and for the life of me I just can't wrench myself away from building radially around a central staircase even though I know it's a security risk and a pathing issue. On this particular embark, a central staircase seemed especially prudent since I had like no cliffs to dig into. What are some alternatives, and how can I get myself out of the rut of accidentally ruining fun for myself?
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abrosheen posted:My mayor is currently demanding a "green tree frog tooth bed in dining room." It's a personal demand, not a mandate, so no one will get punished. He will get increasingly irritable unhappy thoughts once a season or so (?) for a while until he gives up on his impossible dream bed. As long as he is otherwise happy it won't matter.
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Nietzschean posted:I feel like I've reached a point where there is a bunch of new stuff in Dwarf Fortress that I don't even need to use, even though I want to. My current fort has happily plodded along with my favourite design: an archery tower built right atop where the wagon spawned, with ramps on opposite sides leading down a few levels to a trade depot that can be secured from above with floor hatches. Everything else goes in the levels between the surface and the depot, and the depot can be isolated. It's just now autumn, and my "archery tower" has become a 29-tile long by 17-tile wide above ground keep, and I've not even touched the military or metalworking yet because why bother? I've nearly completed my 2-story above-ground fortress footprint, and of course I'm going to train some archers to put in it; but, they're honestly redundant when I can just lock a couple of floor hatches. I feel like I've made the game unfun for myself and I don't know how to get out of it. I look at LP forts, and there's neither symmetry nor advanced planning and for the life of me I just can't wrench myself away from building radially around a central staircase even though I know it's a security risk and a pathing issue. It really sounds like you need to just try to change up your game at every level. You know what "works", so now try other things. Go in with the mindset that your fort is expendable and its all a test run and you're trying new things. Then just throw every idea at the wall and see what sticks. Try building an open pit strip mine of a fort that focuses on mineral export. Or establish a new above ground village. Or a hippie farming co op. Or a Victorian England style expedition with the express purpose of catching and documenting all the strange animals out there. For fort layout, try to stop caring about what looks like what. Go in with the mindset that if it doesn't work, you can just dig out another floor and try again. Don't worry about pathing efficiency or whatever. I typically break my fort into various set pieces that i just dig out wherever they're needed and then make paths to and from.
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neogeo0823 posted:It really sounds like you need to just try to change up your game at every level. You know what "works", so now try other things. Go in with the mindset that your fort is expendable and its all a test run and you're trying new things. Then just throw every idea at the wall and see what sticks. Try building an open pit strip mine of a fort that focuses on mineral export. Or establish a new above ground village. Or a hippie farming co op. Or a Victorian England style expedition with the express purpose of catching and documenting all the strange animals out there. Unskilled no-farming embarks with only raw materials is a good way to get some challenge out of the game. 7 peasants, 1 anvil, 2 copper nuggets and a small pile of bauxite and charcoal is really all you need to make a successful fortress and it encourages you to do a lot more stuff that you wouldn't do and build up industries earlier. Even moreso if you're on a resource stretched map already, since you're going to need some trade goods when that first caravan comes around.
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Nietzschean posted:I feel like I've reached a point where there is a bunch of new stuff in Dwarf Fortress that I don't even need to use, even though I want to. My current fort has happily plodded along with my favourite design: an archery tower built right atop where the wagon spawned, with ramps on opposite sides leading down a few levels to a trade depot that can be secured from above with floor hatches. Everything else goes in the levels between the surface and the depot, and the depot can be isolated. It's just now autumn, and my "archery tower" has become a 29-tile long by 17-tile wide above ground keep, and I've not even touched the military or metalworking yet because why bother? I've nearly completed my 2-story above-ground fortress footprint, and of course I'm going to train some archers to put in it; but, they're honestly redundant when I can just lock a couple of floor hatches. I feel like I've made the game unfun for myself and I don't know how to get out of it. I look at LP forts, and there's neither symmetry nor advanced planning and for the life of me I just can't wrench myself away from building radially around a central staircase even though I know it's a security risk and a pathing issue. The dirty secret behind Dwarf Fortress is that once you've figured out the UI and spent a little time learning how the game plays, it's fairly easy to build an impregnable super-fortress. Once you crack the code, it's easy to fall into a rut. After that, there are only two things to do: (1) walk away for awhile and come back later; or (2) deliberately shake things up by doing something counter to your natural inclination. There's no shame in taking option 1. For option 2, consider: Picking a challenging embark site. Embark on an aquifer, near a necromancer's tower, atop a volcano, next to the ocean, somewhere that no friendly caravans can reach you, on a terrifying glacier with no trees, etc. etc. Change up your fortress design. Build everything above ground. Tunnel straight down to the caverns and build everything there. Build everything out of Olivine Blocks. Build an internal waterfall. Construct an artificial, subterranean river. Whatever. Explore an industry you've never tried before. Export yarn socks. Build everything out of glass or clay. Raise cows. Make honey. Assign every dwarf to whatever labor they have the most ranks in and see what happens. Pick fights. Build a big militia and attack everything. Build a dumb megaproject. There are tons of suggestions on the wiki.
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hi bay12forumsCrocAndBearLover posted:So, i made both sexes of troglodytes milkable. Males will produce you-know-what and females will produce milk. Problem is, there's no you-know-what in Dwarf Fortress. What .txt file i'll need to open and mod? bye bay12forums
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there's also a devlog!Toady One posted:All right, we've finished the first of four sections on the dev page for this release -- world generation artifact interactions. We're now ready to situate the artifacts in tile map locations and then move the interactions into the two play modes. This process will surely bring up some issues with what we've done in world generation, but hopefully it's mostly okay! Map code can take a lot of time to update and change (since it's prone to bugs, especially with the third dimension), and I'll try not to get bogged down, but we should also see some interesting additions. More as I get to each civilization!
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scamtank posted:hi bay12forums Is this the same guy who made a mod that made Elves all female, added breasts with a "smother" attack and made captured ones milkable? E: Also looking forward to this being added to the Succubus mode in MW
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My dwarves are completely unable to make bookshelves from glass, stone, or metal. I can't even order them in the manager menu. Is my dream of a library screwed?
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scamtank posted:there's also a devlog!  I derive great satisfaction from looking at this. I'm really happy that Toady keeps the development page updated, so I can remain up to date on the features currently in the version slated to be released in what is probably several years from now.
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scamtank posted:hi bay12forums I still love the bay12forums - they're like an SA lite. And The Creative Projects subforum is always so positive, no matter what terrible crap you visit on them (and I visited some truly atrocious things on them). As for the challenge builds - I recently had an idea for a "shipwrecked" embark: randomly skilled dorfs, the wagon is your "raft", you have one jug or barrel you used to catch rainwater, one additional log you used for a mast and a sheet of cloth you used as a sail. I would probably use it with MW to use the thatchery workshop and place the embark over a freshwater brook near the coast, pretending they dragged the raft from the beach to a more hospitable site. To randomly select the dwarves skills I guess you'd have to just write down some professions on a piece of paper and roll some D20s. I know you have them. (I have a D30, I'm even worse)
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dragon_pamcake posted:My dwarves are completely unable to make bookshelves from glass, stone, or metal. I can't even order them in the manager menu. Is my dream of a library screwed? Did you start that save on a pre-bookshelf world? I think there were some raws changes to enable the use of bookshelves, and I can't remember if you can introduce them to a currently running world or not.
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