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Pooncha
Feb 15, 2014

Making the impossible possumable
IIRC LBXes are really, really good at critseeking.

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TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay
Sweet, an assault event. I'd rather have 8 assaults on my team than 8 lights as during the previous event.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

Pooncha posted:

IIRC LBXes are really, really good at critseeking.

Plus LBX is fun.

Right now my King Crab is xl360 6ac2 and 2 mediums :)

KaoliniteMilkshake
Jul 9, 2010

Zyphoid posted:

I'm curious as to why you are running the LBX over AC on the IS side? Clan side it makes perfect sense as the AC's are multi shot. But on the IS side why wouldn't you always take the pinpoint damage?

2 less crits, 2 less tons of weight., and I find the spread doesn't really matter at long range, as the projectile velocity is low enough that I've found reliably hitting shots at 600+ is pretty sketchy, so you might as well use the LBX. The bonus against internals is nice as well, and when you get into proper pinpoint range you can still put all your damage on a component. LBX spread is more like artemis SRM 4s than SRM 6s

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Legit surprised to see goons advocate XL King Crabs, considering that they have a massive side profile and arms that don't shield jack squat. Not my idea of an "all-CT" chassis for sure.

Guess that since I don't own any XL larger than 300, and large XLs are hideously expensive, I'll probably level up at least the first variant on a standard engine and I'll see how often I lose side torsos before making a choice.

(Or I'll put in that XL300 and see what happens to a very slow, very fragile, very murderous sniper or fire support assault)

NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Aug 11, 2016

Polyakov
Mar 22, 2012


NihilCredo posted:

(Or I'll put in that XL300 and see what happens to a very slow, very fragile, very murderous sniper or fire support assault)

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Don't put XLs on King Crabs unless you're doing some crazy dual-gauss/dual PPC build, any one of your torsos are easy isolated

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

People are saying to go xl because the drat things are a walking CT. They are super fragile as a result. If you're going to be a glass cannon hanging out in the second line might as well go hog wild and cram in all the guns you can.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Cyrano4747 posted:

People are saying to go xl because the drat things are a walking CT. They are super fragile as a result. If you're going to be a glass cannon hanging out in the second line might as well go hog wild and cram in all the guns you can.

you don't quite need to do that though. the extra speed is nice but I don't think it's worth survivability issues. King Crabs are great at facing mechs because very few opposing robots can facetank the damage from four UAC/5s cranking out DPS. Their weakness is getting flanked because then that DPS doesn't come into play, which means one or two bad alphas can end them

something like this works

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=20e2eaea8ff2b416e97a64dc54c13414dc245207

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
I can finally afford an Atlas and have a spare mechbay. I'm torn between the D-DC and the -S. Which is better the added tankiness or ECM?

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
They're both glorious. Do you have any other ECM mechs? If not, grab a ghost dad.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
Ghost dad it is :getin:.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Azuth0667 posted:

I can finally afford an Atlas and have a spare mechbay. I'm torn between the D-DC and the -S. Which is better the added tankiness or ECM?

The -S is the better brawler - ECM is useful but kinda situational, especially with Radar Deprivation in the picture. And the difference between 18 and 24 SRM-A is significant.

The D-DC however is a much more versatile chassis, since you can mount smaller ballistics and bigger lasers for more midrange builds (and midrange also benefits more from ECM).

You'll want to eventually get both + a third chassis anyway, because an assault without Speed Tweak is painful, but if you're going to only own one for a while I think you'll have more fun with the D-DC.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

They're both good at different things. DDC is better for pubs since you get the ecm shield and can do the dual lbx version. S is great if you have a group that can escort you into the fight, at which point you will become death.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
D-DC and -S are easy picks for the first two chassis but, what should the third eventually be?

E: Also is there a steam group? I've mostly been in quick match pub games.

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
I ran the D with three lpls and an ac20. It's a servicable pubbie escort as you can poke a bit and brawl a bit.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

I should switch to CBill farming mechs for the event, but drat I can't stop playing this AC20 Urbie. I just got 300 damage and a win on Alpine Peaks Conquest, literally the worst possible map/mode for the build :toot:

Plus the Rasalhague camo looks so drat good on it:

Ash Rose
Sep 3, 2011

Where is Megaman?

In queer, with us!
So, since the assault heroes for sale seem to not be great, should I pick up the boars head since I want to have atloxen eventually?

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

Counterpoint to KGC XL Discussion: The KGC has pretty much the best torso twist you can get in an assault, it's a huge range of motion, and you should absolutely be using this to your advantage. I run all three of my KGCs with standard engines and almost never die without losing a side first. I run a double AC20 build, a double gauss, and quad uAC5s. The first two are big ballistics with a long cooldown which makes them absolutely ideal for twisting- the uAC5s not as much. Still, I don't consider the KGC to have such unbalanced hitboxes that I feel safe running an XL in them by any means, especially because your lack of structure quirks means everyone will bother XL checking you. Finally, unlike most mechs that are pretty much neutered when half is gone, you've still got pretty good firepower with half a King Crab, and have gone on to win a lot of games with a single AC20 + SRMs, etc.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

aniviron posted:

Player pool is about the same depending on time of day, load/connection times are abysmal because the saving times for mechs are now fantastic, and they completely ruined Frozen City because too many people on the forums whined about their MW2 nostalgia. Loading times are getting addressed apparently soon, Marauder got some nerfs but is still a solid mech.

Haha, only like 3 good maps in the whole game and now there are two.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Azuth0667 posted:

D-DC and -S are easy picks for the first two chassis but, what should the third eventually be?

E: Also is there a steam group? I've mostly been in quick match pub games.

I'd go to the R, it's tankier than the D and the K has the worst hardpoints. You can make a D work but it can't hit as hard as the others.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Azuth0667 posted:

D-DC and -S are easy picks for the first two chassis but, what should the third eventually be?

E: Also is there a steam group? I've mostly been in quick match pub games.

Metamechs suggests the baseline -D version. It's tanky, requires even more luck to crit than a 7, but is somewhat hampered by it's offensive quirks being AC/20 and missile specific. Also not as fast (or yaw-y) as the -S.

EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Aug 12, 2016

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
Is there a proper way to apply to either of the units? I'm Azuth0667 SA on MWO and would like to join either of them.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
2016 Loyalty rewards are up.

Highlights include better omnipods for the Hellbringer and Summoner and an ECM Stalker.

The unique paint scheme for the reward mechs is what mechs used to look like under old thermal vision.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
Loyalty Cataphract seems underwhelming.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Skoll posted:

Loyalty Cataphract seems underwhelming.

Except for the (as of yet unknown) quirks, it's a clone of the Cataphract 1X with MASC.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Cease to Hope posted:

Except for the (as of yet unknown) quirks, it's a clone of the Cataphract 1X with MASC.

Its a god tier mech in tabletop too :(

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
It will probably have 22+ structure and similar to the rest of the X variants. No JJs = more tanky. It's basically an 0X that trades ECM for MASC and an extra laser hardpoint.

Lonjon
Jun 26, 2007

Books are the real treasures of the world!
Fun Shoe

Mechwarrior Online Loyalty Rewards posted:

Purchases must have been processed by our database no earlier than October 6th 2015 at 10:01 AM PDT (5:01 PM UTC) in order to automatically qualify for 2016 Customer Appreciation Reward eligibility.

If you're a loyal customer from previous years you can get the gently caress out. :byewhore:

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

You know they did a loyalty program with its own rewards last year right

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
It's a bit buried, but there's also the usual weekend event going on, this time with assault leaderboards.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Cease to Hope posted:

It's a bit buried, but there's also the usual weekend event going on, this time with assault leaderboards.
Opinion after last evening: this is the best of these events by far, because there's so much fun to be had when the opposing team has 5+ assaults half of which don't actually main them. Bring any light and drill into Dire Wolves' butts all day, bring LRMs and rake in the cash by stripping Kodiaks, bring dual Gauss and practice your headshotting skills.

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay

Azuth0667 posted:

D-DC and -S are easy picks for the first two chassis but, what should the third eventually be?

E: Also is there a steam group? I've mostly been in quick match pub games.

Go on mumble, easiest way to find people to play with. There is a steam group but I don't think anyone uses it to find games: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mwo-goons

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

NihilCredo posted:

I should switch to CBill farming mechs for the event, but drat I can't stop playing this AC20 Urbie. I just got 300 damage and a win on Alpine Peaks Conquest, literally the worst possible map/mode for the build :toot:

Plus the Rasalhague camo looks so drat good on it:



Rashalgul camo is the best camo hands down, i use the oneshots on mechs i really like.
Especially with black as primary and orange secondary.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
If you bought MC this year, you get a 4-missile blackjack.

If you bought an IS pack, you get a MASC cataphract.

If you bought a Clan pack, you get a hellbringer with an energy point in the RT.

If you bought 2 IS COLLECTOR packs (wave, resistance, 2x40$, not 20$+hero or reinforcements), you get an ECM Stalker.

If you bought 2 CLAN COLLECTOR packs (wave, resistance, 2x40$, not 20$+hero or reinforcements), you get 2 summoners with 1 side-torso energy mount each.

If you qualify for both of the collector packs (80$ sphere + 80$ clan) you get 2 cockpit items and 2 warhorns.

Yolomon Wayne fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Aug 12, 2016

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

The Blackjack looks fun. Looks like it can run either 4x ASRM4s with a standard engine, or 4x ASRM6s with an XL. Backup lasers probably won't be worth it unless they're heavily quirked, since you'd have to also armour up the arms.

The Stalker won't be as disgusting as it would have been with 5M-type hardpoints, but it's still gonna be an absolutely murderous 4x PPC sniper. Lol at buying mech packs though, let alone top tier ones.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

NihilCredo posted:

The Blackjack looks fun. Looks like it can run either 4x ASRM4s with a standard engine, or 4x ASRM6s with an XL. Backup lasers probably won't be worth it unless they're heavily quirked, since you'd have to also armour up the arms.

The Stalker won't be as disgusting as it would have been with 5M-type hardpoints, but it's still gonna be an absolutely murderous 4x PPC sniper. Lol at buying mech packs though, let alone top tier ones.

Unless they change it, you could have bought every single tandard pack + hero + reinforcements and not qualify since its strictly worded as the 40$ pack.
Thats just :pgi:

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

Have they added any new weapons or anything interesting? Haven't played in a while.

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kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

various cheeses posted:

Have they added any new weapons or anything interesting? Haven't played in a while.

lol

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