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Sunber posted:Source? Look at the first letter of his name.
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Eminai posted:Look at the first letter of his name. shut the gently caress up retard, that's mo
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Aug 13, 2016 21:38
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that said, dont be hyperbolic mo, that's my job
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Aug 13, 2016 21:39
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Booley posted:They need to either take the game less seriously and cry less when they get cloak camped all day long and have people constantly attack their sov, or they need to get more serious and realize that if they want to own space they need to only own enough systems that they can keep ADMs up, fly doctrines that aren't hurricanes (since they don't have the pure weight of numbers to make canes work), have a capfleet so that every fight can't be ended by someone bringing in a handful of supers/fax/whatever (we tried to form a full coalition wide capfleet for a few stratops. Since they were In EUTZ and rote wasn't there, we would get about 10 caps. I personally was almost half the capfleet), and have strategic assets like titans so their fleets can't get cut off from objectives trivially easily. I enjoyed the "why are you attacking us? goons are in delve  " argument that was used.I enjoyed helping set up the Fight Club when Horde first moved into the region and I was still doing stuff with them, but holy poo poo some of the people leading those alliances are so mentally broken as people I'm enjoying watching them freak out more. The fear mongering they've done since Horde left has been amazing, its almost on par with HERO to some degree.
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Aug 13, 2016 21:47
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Okay no hyperbole: it was probably more than twenty and less than fifty as long as we don't count aborted CSAA so clearly it was worth it
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Aug 13, 2016 21:47
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there were 1488 titans in those SCSAAs no really
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Aug 13, 2016 22:08
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Nice crypto fascism there
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Aug 13, 2016 22:13
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am i being led to believe by mr exe that they begged the martini for a year to be condensed into 1-2 regions??
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Aug 13, 2016 22:12
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We begged for a year to condense the non-gsf imperium into as much space as would be necessary to lead to a population density comparable to deklein, so yes, 1-2 regions beyond deklein tops. We offered to be the first to move to like a single constellation in loving pure blind if this was deemed necessary to get things going even  It's not like this would have meant just abandoning all the rest outright, could still have "held" it as buffer space or vice royalties or whatever else fancy word might be found until someone attacks, but don't distribute the main living space of each ally so far apart
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Aug 13, 2016 22:18
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Pretending we had consolidated do you honestly think that the war would have gone any differently? Didn't the casino inject something around 12 trillion into our enemies?
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Aug 13, 2016 22:22
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dreamin' posted:We begged for a year to condense the non-gsf imperium into as much space as would be necessary to lead to a population density comparable to deklein if all of yall foresaw your doom so clearly why did everyone have a bajillion csaas building 1488 supers a piece and then funnel through UJY like lemmings on the way out?
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Aug 13, 2016 22:22
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10-Shot posted:Pretending we had consolidated do you honestly think that the war would have gone any differently? Didn't the casino inject something around 12 trillion into our enemies? 12-14 trillion yes, so just imagine those 65,000 involved characters perched around dek/pb instead of the far-flung regions they had to assault
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Aug 13, 2016 22:25
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Orange Red Bull posted:if all of yall foresaw your doom so clearly why did everyone have a bajillion csaas building 1488 supers a piece and then funnel through UJY like lemmings on the way out? Try to find a single dead exe super or titan on the killboards. We evacuated 99% of our poo poo without a hickup. I also never claimed that it was just the evil gsf illuminati that didn't want to listen, it's just, between GSF directorate and the people behind the "take gates through deklein to evac your titans" strategy, whom would you pin your hopes on
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Aug 13, 2016 22:25
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the point is: the blob still wins unless you drop the fax/supers if they have more supers then you cant drop and you lose it was always an unwinnable situation
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Aug 13, 2016 22:26
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Yeah well 13 fantastillions or not, it's much harder to assemble that blob and keep it together long enough if you don't start the feeding frenzy by demonstrating how easy it is to attack the allies on the periphery for a few months who have to be bailed out constantly
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Aug 13, 2016 22:30
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If overextension is a non factor I recommend taking Querious and Period Basis too, GSF should put lawn into Querious, Bastion into Period Basis and then stage an invasion of Paragon Soul via apiaries and hand that to TNT. I am sure it will all work out as long as lenny doesn't spend another 13 trillion
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Aug 13, 2016 22:32
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dreamin' posted:Yeah well 13 fantastillions or not, it's much harder to assemble that blob and keep it together long enough if you don't start the feeding frenzy by demonstrating how easy it is to attack the allies on the periphery for a few months who have to be bailed out constantly well, at least now you are freed from the shackles of allies, coalitions and evil directorates and can do your own thing 
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Aug 13, 2016 22:34
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And Xenuria's Edit: free from that is
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Aug 13, 2016 22:38
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hopefully in the last 5 years you got to participate in some fun wars, history making battles and make some good space money in what space you had
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Aug 13, 2016 22:45
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Oh, my farewell post on goonfleet.com is pretty much a glowing review of our experience. Just got really tired of trying to play the sovereignty game in a coalition when we aren't sure which lessons people chose to take from the experience of the last year
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Aug 13, 2016 22:59
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Here's another thought. Even if leadership agreed that consolidating would be prudent, someone has to take responsibility for making the call. Plus hindsight and all that. You can't ask a coalition to trust you based on losses that never happen. Hypothetical losses that you supposedly avoid just don't carry much weight. It's not like 2016 would have been guaranteed secure anyway. There would have been losses elsewhere. There was some gameplay, too, so despite losing regions we got off light. I think.
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Aug 13, 2016 23:02
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Hey Deadtear, Slacks is close to having his name on the Aegis. Just reminding you.
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Aug 13, 2016 23:10
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It's not hindsight if you raise a point months before the war even slowly starts to happen. That said, we clearly can't even make anyone not push Xenuria for CSM  , so we chose that we'd rather do our own thing for now vOv
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Aug 13, 2016 23:13
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dreamin' posted:for now vOv i'll watch for the welcome back exe post once delve is adm 5-6 and stable
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Aug 13, 2016 23:19
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Shitflinging in spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace
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Aug 13, 2016 23:20
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dreamin' posted:It's not hindsight if you raise a point months before the war even slowly starts to happen. That said, we clearly can't even make anyone not push Xenuria for CSM You still don't get credit for things that don't happen. It's much easier to preserve your leadership credibility by letting a war convince everyone to move compared to asking them to do it based on theorycrafting. Personally I haven't ruled out the possibility that powers-that-be wanted the war to happen for just this reason. Assuming you are correct and everyone agreed with you, the only difference between what you wanted and what has happened was the method (now that GSF is in Delve). Something that still bothers me is a comment Youtuber made about the meta, that most of us have no idea what's really going on. And yeah I think it's possible PL was paid by GSF to take part in this war, and the move. I just can't rule it out.
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Aug 13, 2016 23:23
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Elsa posted:PL was paid by GSF to take part in this war, and the move. I just can't rule it out nah i was reading one of them skype log dumps from a while back and in there elise was saying their #1 priority as they inched towards vale was "not to spook the goon" mister vee always said elise is a snake and i believe it
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Aug 13, 2016 23:26
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Elsa posted:And yeah I think it's possible PL was paid by GSF to take part in this war, and the move. I just can't rule it out. Are you saying that lenny is secretly the mittani? 
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Aug 13, 2016 23:30
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Orange Red Bull posted:mister vee always said elise is a snake and i believe it Tbh you don't get much significant done in this game without being at least slightly sneaky
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Aug 13, 2016 23:31
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speaking of mister vee does anyone hear from him or is he completely unplugged? how is being a sexhaver treating him? some of my best times in eve were flying in his fleets with EG
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Aug 13, 2016 23:31
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Unfunny Poster posted:Hey Deadtear, the darkest timeline
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Aug 13, 2016 23:31
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except china is gonna win if im wrong, im happy and if im right, im right 
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Aug 13, 2016 23:32
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Orange Red Bull posted:nah Oh. I mean sure. Anything that is leaked could be planted propaganda.
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Aug 13, 2016 23:33
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:the darkest timeline It'll be cannon.
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Aug 13, 2016 23:36
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canon you illiterate
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Aug 13, 2016 23:44
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:canon you illiterate No, cannon. We'll be shooting Slacks out of a cannon.
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Aug 13, 2016 23:46
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Wait did I misread or did you peace out or something Rain? Also hi Mo exe are cool dudes just sayin I understand why you guys left and I don't think anyone in the entire gimperium is calling you fcon mk2 or anything. We always hated fcon, but always loved y'all. That didn't change because you got tired of the bullshit. We're tired of it too but we're dancing with the one who brought us. You dudes were always strong enough to stand on your own anyways.
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Aug 14, 2016 01:18
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dreamin' posted:If you truly think that leaving people like bastion or lawn stranded in vale with heaps of assets stuck/lost, losing triple digits of allied supers making the exodus from the north and more than half the player numbers/alliances of the imperium was the best possible way of adjusting to fozzie sov and that the massive benefits of ??? that you reaped in the months you didn't adjust somehow make up for this, more power to you Stop arguing with the village idiot, everyone here hates the same retards you do too
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Aug 14, 2016 01:25
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dreamin' posted:Oh, my farewell post on goonfleet.com is pretty much a glowing review of our experience. Just got really tired of trying to play the sovereignty game in a coalition when we aren't sure which lessons people chose to take from the experience of the last year You realize that you are arguing with the stupids right? I remember when we used to take any given alliance update with a grain of salt. These days idiots actually seem to believe it all.
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Pro-tip: Ignore anything the guy who draws underage cartoon characters naked has to say.
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