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SonicRulez posted:Born Again was pretty drat great, I see why people rave about it. Does the Bendis run follow Matt reconnecting with Foggy and that sort of thing? That was the only part that didn't really tie off. The rest of it though? Hot drat. If they can somehow gather the Dragon Balls and get Evans to be in an episode, that would make a kickass Season 3 of the Netflix show. Everything is already in place. Bendis' run doesn't immediately follow Born Again, he reconnects with Foggy and Karen diesat some point between the 2 runs. But Bendis' stuff does follow up on the "Kingpin knows Daredevil's identity" stuff. Ann Nocenti wrote the book following Frank Miller and she deal with it too. Kingpin uses Typhoid Mary to gently caress with Daredevil's head.
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Skwirl posted:Karen dies Thanks, Kevin Smith. 
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Is this the appropriate place to ask about a one-shot you remember reading a quarter-century ago? I'm trying to remember the first Batman comic I ever read. It was a one-off story that's really about the villains--two bank robbers--where Batman and Robin only show up at the end. The narrator is a bank teller, a redheaded woman named Byrne, who decides to run off with a crazy bank robber. After a bloody spree, the two of them decide to go out in a blaze of glory, but are stopped by Batman and Robin and end up the only victims of their incendiary bomb. The irony is that after living by a motto of "Die Young, Stay Pretty," the two of them are going to rot in jail for the rest of their lives, horribly disfigured.
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site posted:I have no idea tbh. I only started reading Harley with the current series. Only thing that Harley needs is that she's BFFs with Ivy forever. 
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Aug 14, 2016 05:45
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I wonder if anyone ever figured out why comic book dialogue has random words in bold and italics.
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SynthOrange posted:Only thing that Harley needs is that she's BFFs with Ivy forever. Bffs? Just lol
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Lurdiak posted:I wonder if anyone ever figured out why comic book dialogue has random words in bold and italics. No one has ever known emphasis E: ugh double post, sorry bad habit
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Aug 14, 2016 06:07
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Panel three of that page is the most DC-rear end male gaze-rear end bullshit I've seen in a long loving while.
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Aug 14, 2016 06:28
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I must be the only person in the world who detests Harley/Ivy, and at least half of that is because most of the time it's just straight up lesbian wank bait for men.
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No I really dislike it too. I like the idea of these professional supervillains also being casual best pals. It's totally possible to have such things as platonic same sex best friends after all. Making them a couple who also casually hook up sometimes changes their relationship dynamic entirely and feels like something out of a bad fanfic (or Bruce Timm's private wank folder). But what do I know, after all I've hated Harley Quinn ever since DC decided to make her into Deadpool but her title apparently sells really well so joke's on me I guess.
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Aug 14, 2016 06:52
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For me their open relationship is not something that particularly affects my enjoyment of the book. I have no vested interest in either characters previous incarnations so its not ruining any sort of characterization for me and the amount of scenes like the one above that occur through the entire run you could probably count on one hand. As is being referenced in said scene, Harley dates other people and the Ivy thing is just there and they occasionally flirt. It's whatever, I'll give Amanda the benefit of the doubt.
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WickedHate posted:I must be the only person in the world who detests Harley/Ivy, and at least half of that is because most of the time it's just straight up lesbian wank bait for men.
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Aug 14, 2016 07:50
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The other half is that I just don't care for Ivy or any version of Harley that also includes in Ivy in that canon.
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Harley and Ivy are just good friends: loving DC, stop queerbaiting and have the balls to make a lesbian couple canon! Harley and Ivy are canon lesbians: loving DC, just putting hot chicks together for male wankbait! Nota bene: I'm not defending the topless panel in the page above but just the concept of Harley and Ivy
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WickedHate posted:I must be the only person in the world who detests Harley/Ivy, and at least half of that is because most of the time it's just straight up lesbian wank bait for men. No. I preferred it when they were just friends, possibly with a bit of wink-wink-nudge-nudge. Because a) it was funnier when they didn't feel a need to spell out what exactly their relationship was and b) keeping it ambiguous helps avoid pages like the one above.
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I find poison ivy and Harley being in an on-again-off-again lesbian relationship makes a whole lot of sense if you take the perspective that Ivy genuinely despises men and Harley is a noted victim of abuse at one of the single worst men in existence. I think the pairing is two uniquely broken and, indeed, kind of awful individuals finding romance where and when they can and there are times when their relationship works and feels really honest. And then you get stuff like that page which takes that angle and goes *shredding chord* HOT LESBIANS HAVIN SEX WEEEOWWWWW WE'RE DC AND WE ARE INCAPABLE OF WRITING ANYTHING THAT ISNT FOR STRAIGHT YOUNG TWENTYSOMETHING MEN YEAH! and it just ruins any potential goodwill out of the pairing. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Aug 14, 2016 |
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I like Ivy and Harley's relationship. When they scale it back, I think it adds a layer of depth to both. I feel like most people, let alone women, have a friend who keeps going back to someone who is terrible to them. So you try and try to pull them out and be the best friend you can, but they can't help it. The entire abuse cycle is, for better or for worse, at the heart of Harley's character. Them having sex...I'm not so sure about that part. Travis343 has a solid point. There's no winning for DC when you get to that point. I don't mind it being more subtle, but then it comes off as DC burying their gays.
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Toxxupation posted:And then you get stuff like that page which takes that angle and goes *shredding chord* HOT LESBIANS HAVIN SEX WEEEOWWWWW WE'RE DC AND WE ARE INCAPABLE OF WRITING ANYTHING THAT ISNT FOR STRAIGHT YOUNG TWENTYSOMETHING MEN YEAH! and it just ruins any potential goodwill out of the pairing. Fortysomething. 
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Ivy only cares about her because, when they are both full grown, of all the trees that are in the wood, the Harley bears the crown.
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Good one, Bing. The thing I don't get about the Harley/Ivy relationship is what about all the times Ivy decides she wants to kill all the humans?
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Halloween Jack posted:Good one, Bing. Ivy's usually given Harley a shot or some other kind of inoculation against whatever toxin she's working with. Since N52 Harley has undergone a Joker-style chemical bath I would assume she's immune to most poisons and toxins already. And Harley would probably talk Ivy out of trying, anyway. They're a pretty good influence on each other. purple death ray fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 14, 2016 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Good one, Bing. It's like Fry and Bender, duh, some humans still get a pass due to being fun enough that their humanness isn't a glaring issue.
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Halloween Jack posted:Good one, Bing. im a good pornfinder
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Travis343 posted:Ivy's usually given Harley a shot or some other kind of inoculation against whatever toxin she's working with. Since N52 Harley has undergone a Joker-style chemical bath I would assume she's immune to most poisons and toxins already. Yup. The super ivy formula made her immune to most poisons.
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Travis343 posted:Harley and Ivy are just good friends: loving DC, stop queerbaiting and have the balls to make a lesbian couple canon! Their whole friendship started with "wink wink, their lesbians, hot amiright", didn't it? I wouldn't think it was queerbaiting if they were just friends because people of the same gender are in fact capable of being just being friends.
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Doesn't Harley still hook up with dudes though?
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Yes she has a boyfriend, in fact that page is right before she goes to save him H/I are in a sort of open relationship
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Right so not a lesbian then. Because being bisexual is more attractive to men. "SHE'S SUPER HOT AND SHE MIGHT BRING ANOTHER GIRL TO BED." Ugh.
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Eh not really so much on the second part cuz Ivy still doesn't like dudes, she just doesn't mind if Harley dates other people
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WickedHate posted:Their whole friendship started with "wink wink, their lesbians, hot amiright", didn't it? I wouldn't think it was queerbaiting if they were just friends because people of the same gender are in fact capable of being just being friends. The first Harley and Ivy episode is more like Thelma and Louise except they rob banks. I really don't think it started on that kind of exploitative note. Like granted Bruce Timm is a huge pervert but the initial episode was really not on that level of gross leering.
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Travis343 posted:The first Harley and Ivy episode is more like Thelma and Louise except they rob banks. I really don't think it started on that kind of exploitative note. Like granted Bruce Timm is a huge pervert but the initial episode was really not on that level of gross leering. Okay, well, that's not queerbaiting then.
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Travis343 posted:The first Harley and Ivy episode is more like Thelma and Louise except they rob banks. I really don't think it started on that kind of exploitative note. Like granted Bruce Timm is a huge pervert but the initial episode was really not on that level of gross leering. ... well, except for the scene where they're walking around their house without pants on. As you do.
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Selachian posted:walking around their house without pants on. As you do.
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Selachian posted:... well, except for the scene where they're walking around their house without pants on. As you do. Have you never had roommates
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After a day of hard criming, I need to go completely freeball around the lair and I don't care who sees.
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Squizzle posted:After a day of hard criming, I need to go completely freeball around the lair and I don't care who sees. PM me
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As I told previous roommates this is my house, my space and as a common courtesy I will walk around in my underwear instead of complete nakedness. That is my compromise.
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I haven't read Worst X-man, but I know the premise. How did the character discover what his power is?
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Uthor posted:I haven't read Worst X-man, but I know the premise. How did the character discover what his power is? Beast told him after genetic study.
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I am literally laughing my head off that people in here are saying Harley/Ivy is a bad relationship because clearly it's just for straight men. You know what literally all of my queer nerdy friends are super happy about right now? It's that there's a canon lesbian relationship, that the LGBT comics community has been pulling to become canon for years. You know what's even better? Yes, one of them is Bi, because yes, bisexuality is a thing, Rhyno. One that is notably attacked even in the LGBT community as being 'not real', because a lot of people think you have to be either straight or gay. So one panel is a bit titillating [it exists to show how comfortable they are together, though that could be done just as well via the later 'aw, you love me' stuff.] That doesn't mean the entire relationship is only built for straight men. I know at least two lesbian girls who liked said panels. Maybe it's juvenile that sex sells, but... I dunno. It does. People enjoy it. Not just straight, white men either. LGBT people like representation, and like titillation too, at times.
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