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albany academy posted:Somebody is bringing this list to a fundraiser tournament: Holy christ I didn't realize Abby2 gives free charges. Actual question, how would you guys deal with this list? It's just so many things you have to kill and that many Shredders all flanking off each other and being bitey jerks and healing constantly. My first thought would be elite infantry (ala Dawnguard Sentinels), though the Archangel should be able to clear them really well with Dragon Breath, I think. I hope that list poops on everyone though because it's a hilarious list.
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I'd use AOEs, electroleaps, or sprays. they're armor 13, so even blast damage stands a good chance of pinging them. They've got 13 boxes, so even 4-5 points of damage per stands a good chance of knocking out an aspect or two.
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Khisanth Magus posted:But my PG, who just sold his Legion as part of his slimming down his factions as he just moved and doesn't have as much space in his new place, says that Shredders are trash! loving lmao, I love the transparent nerd excuses about bailing on a faction. It's always either moving or needing money for car repairs followed by buying a new army 2-3 weeks later.
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fnordcircle posted:loving lmao, I love the transparent nerd excuses about bailing on a faction. It's always either moving or needing money for car repairs followed by buying a new army 2-3 weeks later. I sold my circle because as much as I loved playing them and ended up doing consistently well with them, I wanted to use constructs and they were trash at the time. 3 months later they announce Bradigus and I cursed the stars
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albany academy posted:Somebody is bringing this list to a fundraiser tournament: Someone needs to take Nemo 1 with Fireflies against this just to see what happens on feat turn.
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Friendly Fire posted:Someone needs to take Nemo 1 with Fireflies against this just to see what happens on feat turn. I loving love popcorn shrimp
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So did they actually give Legion any good infantry in exchange for hamstringing their Warbeast game? I'm looking at the Legion infantry and god it all looks terrible. Like comparing them to Dawnguard Sentinels isn't necessarily the most fair comparison because Sentinels own, but at the same time if you took everything good about Legionnaires and Swordsmen, mashed it together, and made it even better you'd get Dawnguard Sentinels for 20% more cost and 1200% more effectiveness. Legionnaires are tougher but P+S 10 infantry that's 15 points for 10 of them and needs a character attachment to make them not toothless is pretty uninspiring. I want to like my Legion because they're basically the Kaiju faction and it's rad as hell, but when I look at their cards my reaction is a resounding  Other than the Hellmouth, which looks awesome and I need to buy one. Magres fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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gannyGrabber posted:Read the drat instructions on your glue, goons. I've never bought super glue that didn't say to refridgerate. I just read the back of my loctite pro box and I don't see refrigerator storage mentioned anywhere, so just to be safe I'm gonna store it in the oven preheated to 400 degrees.
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fnordcircle posted:loving lmao, I love the transparent nerd excuses about bailing on a faction. It's always either moving or needing money for car repairs followed by buying a new army 2-3 weeks later. And Abby2 is probably better with the Wasps, too. gannyGrabber posted:Read the drat instructions on your glue, goons. I've never bought super glue that didn't say to refridgerate. I always keep it wrapped in toilet paper in a glass jar because I'm irrationally afraid of not closing it properly and somehow seeing my entire fridge ruined by super glue.
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Magres posted:So did they actually give Legion any good infantry in exchange for hamstringing their Warbeast game? I'm looking at the Legion infantry and god it all looks terrible. Like comparing them to Dawnguard Sentinels isn't necessarily the most fair comparison because Sentinels own, but at the same time if you took everything good about Legionnaires and Swordsmen, mashed it together, and made it even better you'd get Dawnguard Sentinels for 20% more cost and 1200% more effectiveness. Legionnaires are tougher but P+S 10 infantry that's 15 points for 10 of them and needs a character attachment to make them not toothless is pretty uninspiring. Have you actually played any of it yet? Legion has a bunch of really good poo poo. Even in the infantry department.
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Wizard Styles posted:Shredders are pretty poo poo, though. Abby2 can make them work, but who else? It's not like Legion players seem all that enamored with the Beast Mistress, although she looks okay to me. They look fun in theory with Thagrosh2, though they haven't worked super well for me. Adelphophagy (whatever the spelling is) is a huge pile of poo poo on a piece that otherwise lends itself really well to running swarms of them and just frenzying everywhere and ignoring your Fury. S.J. posted:Have you actually played any of it yet? Legion has a bunch of really good poo poo. Even in the infantry department. I haven't played much with the infantry but I've played some Legion since Mk3 and it didn't feel great (which is partly why I'm asking here). I ran something along the lines of Thag2, a Scythean, Warspears w/ UA, a Shepherd, a Forsaken, and a pile of Shredders. Not being able to do much, Fury-wise, with my Shredders without having them devour each other was really lovely. Running a ton of Shredders was probably a mistake, it's just something I've loved doing since Mk2 because they were hilarious in Mk2. For the record I'm totally open to being wrong (and even really wanting to be wrong!) about Legion feeling bad to play and being poopy in Mk3. I want to love all my factions, and most of the time when stuff doesn't feel good to play I assume it's because I'm doing dumb and bad things with it. I'm just not seeing where to do things better. Magres fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Magres posted:So did they actually give Legion any good infantry in exchange for hamstringing their Warbeast game? I'm looking at the Legion infantry and god it all looks terrible. Like comparing them to Dawnguard Sentinels isn't necessarily the most fair comparison because Sentinels own, but at the same time if you took everything good about Legionnaires and Swordsmen, mashed it together, and made it even better you'd get Dawnguard Sentinels for 20% more cost and 1200% more effectiveness. Legionnaires are tougher but P+S 10 infantry that's 15 points for 10 of them and needs a character attachment to make them not toothless is pretty uninspiring. Swordsmen, Banshees, Warspears and both Strider units are all good, I think (I haven't played against the Blightblades yet, though). And I expect to see a lot of double Hellmouths now that thing's out. And if you're playing a Minion-friendly Warlock, Brigands exist and are possibly the best Hordes unit. Legionnaires are bizarrely overcosted, though, and I have no idea why they even changed at all. They were fine the way they were in Mk2.
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S.J. posted:There were literally 6 in stock in another regions warehouse from one distributor and that was it. I'll let you know when they arrive so I can get your deets. mk3 has been crazy like that. the doofiest poo poo is sold out at alliance because of people jumping in and trying new poo poo
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Wizard Styles posted:PP not bringing Warmachine and Hordes infantry closer together the same way they did jacks and beasts is one of my main issues with Mk3, but Legion made out pretty well imo. My worry with Swordsmen is that they look like they'll die to a stiff breeze and I'll basically piss 15 points down the drain if my opponent has literally any AOEs. On the other hand, I feel like I'm basically the only player in my group who ever fields anything with AOEs and it's pretty hard to have P+S Weaponmasters actually be bad unless they're horribly expensive, and Swordsmen are reasonably priced. Banshees look phenomenal though, I've been playing with Reductors in CoC recently who have the same general idea (cheap infantry with decent POW SP6s) and loving them to bits because they like mow down enemy infantry like it's no one's business.
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Literally The Worst posted:mk3 has been crazy like that. the doofiest poo poo is sold out at alliance because of people jumping in and trying new poo poo
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Literally The Worst posted:mk3 has been crazy like that. the doofiest poo poo is sold out at alliance because of people jumping in and trying new poo poo Honestly, ACD has been way more consistent (and has better prices). Magres posted:My worry with Swordsmen is that they look like they'll die to a stiff breeze and I'll basically piss 15 points down the drain if my opponent has literally any AOEs. Dude, positioning. Almost all light infantry have to worry about AoEs by default but you can still spread your dudes out to mitigate it. Your gargoyle units/solos are legit though. S.J. fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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fnordcircle posted:loving lmao, I love the transparent nerd excuses about bailing on a faction. It's always either moving or needing money for car repairs followed by buying a new army 2-3 weeks later. Said PG already owned every faction I think. He sold several of his factions when he moved. Menoth, CoC and Legion I know for sure. He is considering selling his Cryx, which he's said the only real complain he has about them in MK2 is the changes to Goreshade2.
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Magres posted:My worry with Swordsmen is that they look like they'll die to a stiff breeze and I'll basically piss 15 points down the drain if my opponent has literally any AOEs. Also, Wrong-Eye & Snapjaw can help Swordsmen and many Legion beasts a lot.
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S.J. posted:That's not so bad honestly. If you guys get the chance to travel for tournaments you should, it's a lot of fun! Yeah, there's one in Norway in November that I'm seriously considering going to. Now to justify international travel to play with wardollies (with a baby on the way) to my fiancée. 
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Plus with premeasuring you can use those cool widgets to space out your dudes so you can minimize blast damage. Premeasuring is also great for setting up perfect cloud walls.
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Wizard Styles posted:AoEs are a problem, yeah, but 14/13 isn't a bad statline in Mk3, all things considered. I should definitely grab Wrong-Eye & Snapjaw, they look fun and like they'd also be a welcome addition to Trolls in non-Calandra lists.
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Pyrolocutus posted:Crossroads of Courage season 1 stuff up: http://privateerpress.com/organized-play/leagues/crossroads-of-courage Know what warmachine always needed? Escort quests.
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Alpha Phoenix posted:Know what warmachine always needed? Escort quests are the greatest things ever.
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Khisanth Magus posted:Escort quests are the greatest things ever. Can't blame the AI if he dies that. His blood will be on your hands.
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fnordcircle posted:I just read the back of my loctite pro box and I don't see refrigerator storage mentioned anywhere, so just to be safe I'm gonna store it in the oven preheated to 400 degrees. I use loctite 416 and it says to. Maybe your glue has an old label or is just a wildly different mix..? Anyways, you should try it!
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fnordcircle posted:loving lmao, I love the transparent nerd excuses about bailing on a faction. It's always either moving or needing money for car repairs followed by buying a new army 2-3 weeks later. I can't complain, because I've been the beneficiary of this beforehand (near full faction of Skorne for 20-25% of retail) but watching people jump off perceived bad factions for good ones is a bit sad. I guess I'm not much better (started Ret in the runup to MKIII, though way before the previews) and I have to say the faction change is why I've been more successful now. Not having to fight against your army to get it to work is a novel war machine experience to me. As an aside, I'm caster swapping next week for the Journeyman. Helynna has been way too much of a ball buster in early play, and I'm looking to tone things down with a less good caster. So I'm thinking Kaelyssa if only because she doesn't play shoot and scoot beyond the single refuge target (usually herself) and lacks a spell to to generalized buffing on the same level as Hand of Destruction. Is this a good plan, or did I yet again choose one of the Ret power casters? I can do anything but Thyron and Assyria, and would prefer to avoid Ravyn since the other Ret player wants to use her for some unknown reason. Maybe I go with Garyth and just play 3 weeks of assassination only, but that seems to be pretty awful to play against in most cases when you're still learning.
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Magres posted:I should definitely grab Wrong-Eye & Snapjaw, they look fun and like they'd also be a welcome addition to Trolls in non-Calandra lists.
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S.J. posted:Honestly, ACD has been way more consistent (and has better prices). Daves House of Totally Not Bootlegs is more consistent than a Diamond owned distributor gently caress diamond
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S.J. posted:Honestly, ACD has been way more consistent (and has better prices). I guessed you got the Heavy Rifle Teams from ACD earlier and almost posted something about it then. I noticed last week their Middleton and Fresno warehouses had a treasure trove of hard to find pieces. I ended up buying tons of their Lanyssa's and Wrong Eye & Snapjaws, since everyone at my store needs them and you can barely find them. Peachstate Hobby has some things too if you get really desperate.
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Literally The Worst posted:Daves House of Totally Not Bootlegs is more consistent than a Diamond owned distributor loving truth, what a garbage poo poo company. Diamond being lovely so loving consistently made us stop carrying comics.
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S.J. posted:loving truth, what a garbage poo poo company. Diamond being lovely so loving consistently made us stop carrying comics. Sorry couldn't hear you there was some interference on the line (I'm primarily a comics guy, to the point that that was the big skill that got me hired here the first time, literally can't imagine not carrying comics) Turns out the reason we haven't gotten the new No Quarter yet is Alliance dicking up and not sending us our standing order BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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rkajdi posted:I can't complain, because I've been the beneficiary of this beforehand (near full faction of Skorne for 20-25% of retail) but watching people jump off perceived bad factions for good ones is a bit sad. I guess I'm not much better (started Ret in the runup to MKIII, though way before the previews) and I have to say the faction change is why I've been more successful now. Not having to fight against your army to get it to work is a novel war machine experience to me. See, I really don't mind faction hoppers. It's only silly when people pretend to have other reasons. Just be honest about it.
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Kind of a random question but anyone here near the Providence, RI area? Gonna be traveling and I'm bringing my Imperial Assault stuff with me to play with my younger siblings back home and I figure I might as well get some gamer strange on the side.
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Literally The Worst posted:Sorry couldn't hear you there was some interference on the line (I'm primarily a comics guy, to the point that that was the big skill that got me hired here the first time, literally can't imagine not carrying comics) We're primarily a board game store, and that's by far most of our revenue. I love comics and honestly I'm kind of sad it isn't worth it for us to carry them. And don't get me started on Alliance loving up our standing orders.
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Is anyone else planning on sending Hungerford weird erotic slash fiction for the Holden event stories each week? Asking for a friend. 
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In other news I'm putting in an order for a guildball starter tomorrow. Going Brewers, because they uh They look like trolls honestly Like they were just using their troll models the whole time they were play testing
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Literally The Worst posted:In other news I'm putting in an order for a guildball starter tomorrow. Going Brewers, because they uh Well what else were they going to use those models for, Warmahordes is a dead game, haven't you heard?
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Finally got my Cryx and Skorne battleboxes (Khador is still sold out!), and it came with a bonus surprise: Maddox's spell and feat card instead of Agathia's! By far the most bizarre mispack I've had yet.
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koreban posted:Is anyone else planning on sending Hungerford weird erotic slash fiction for the Holden event stories each week? Holden My Balls
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koreban posted:Is anyone else planning on sending Hungerford weird erotic slash fiction for the Holden event stories each week? Pounded In The Butt By My Narrative Campaign-Developed Miniature Wargaming Model
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