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Travis343 posted:I wish it was possible to adapt this thread into something completely different with no similarities to any of the people posting in it That's real easy to do for your own personal frame of reference.
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Travis343 posted:I wish it was possible to adapt this thread into something completely different with no similarities to any of the people posting in it There's already alternate adaptations of this thread. On SA even.
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MacheteZombie posted:There's already alternate adaptations of this thread. On SA even. Yeah but the one in cineD blows since the Zack Snyder reboot
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Yeah but the one in cineD blows since the Zack Snyder reboot Certainly not for everyone. just wait until the Director's cut comes out though.
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Travis343 posted:I wish it was possible to adapt this thread into something completely different with no similarities to any of the people posting in it CD is right over there!
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Aug 19, 2016 18:17
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MacheteZombie posted:Certainly not for everyone. I don't think I can deal with that thread being even longer
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I don't think I can deal with that thread being even longer 300 more pages expanding upon the ambiguity in whether or not comic movies will end capitalism. How can you say no?
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Toxxupation posted:It was a mediocre show, and one of the (many) reasons it was mediocre was because it randomly included someone completely unrecognizable as Patsy Walker and then called her Patsy "Trish" Walker for no reason. It's not like people who aren't comic fans saw "Trish" onscreen went "Oh gently caress, it's that minor superhero who married the literal Son of Satan in the seventies!" and everyone who actually knew who "Trish" was supposed to be were confused why this random blonde lady who didn't look or act anything like Patsy Walker was supposed to be a virtually unknown minor Marvel superhero. It was pointless, and giving her the name of Patsy Walker either created an expectation for the character that she didn't live up to (if you knew who she was) or was totally pointless and unnecessary (if you were one of the vast, vast majority of people who didn't). What was even weirder is that, metatextually, the show even recognized that, but instead of giving her a completely different name they half-stepped it with a nickname, so she inhabits this weird sorta-is-Patsy-Walker-but-not-really grey area that pleased nobody. In contrast, if they kept her character exactly the same and just gave her a different name - well, it wouldn't fix Trish's character or arc in JJ entirely, but it would do a hell of a lot more to clean slate it so she's graded on her own merits over a sort of, kind of reference to a comic book character nobody but hardcore fans know about. 
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Lobok posted:Make sure you stay until the end of the movie! After ten minutes of credits, we'll see Mary Jane in a CVS looking at packages of hair dye and her hands hover over a RED one! That would rule.
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Aug 19, 2016 18:22
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I'm really glad I stayed out of this one, but I'm also perplexed it's not over yet.
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Actually, have we even had any actual confirmation that Zendaya is playing MJ, or we all  ing over nothing?
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Yvonmukluk posted:Actually, have we even had any actual confirmation that Zendaya is playing MJ, or we all It was just that article I posted. Though other sites are reporting the same thing.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:07
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I'm all for Zendaya being Mary Jane. The people upset over this are probably the same kind of people who were upset that Gal Gadot was too skinny and doesn't have blue eyes or a bigger bust. Did the same people get all weirded out when Will Smith was cast as Deadshot? Or when it was officially announced that Kiersey Clemons is going to be Iris West?
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So, Henry Cavill's been photographed filming Justice League in the traditional blue Superman costume, with a spit-curl. And Cyborg is gonna show up in The Flash film. Let's talk about that instead. 
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teagone posted:I'm all for Zendaya being Mary Jane. The people upset over this are probably the same kind of people who were upset that Gal Gadot was too skinny and doesn't have blue eyes or a bigger bust. Did the same people get all weirded out when Will Smith was cast as Deadshot? Or when it was officially announced that Kiersey Clemons is going to be Iris West? Jesus christ dude let it go
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Dan Slott is on Twitter slaying in the name of this girl. I am really pulling for her to make the most of this. Looking at that redhead shot, she's definitely hot enough for the role. The argument of how much diversion from canon is acceptable doesn't actually have a resolution. It's arbitrary.
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Grasping at straws, but I wanna believe that the suit means Superman will actually have a role in Justice League Part 1, not just a glorified cameo at the end. Also, I'm pretending that Cyborg in The Flash film means they've figured out how to space introductions and cameos better.
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Ignite Memories posted:Jesus christ dude let it go Did you think I was singling you out or something? I was just making a general comparison that had a lot of fanfare. 
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Aug 19, 2016 19:31
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Dario the Wop posted:So, Henry Cavill's been photographed filming Justice League in the traditional blue Superman costume, with a spit-curl. Aw. That's cute.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:32
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Dario the Wop posted:So, Henry Cavill's been photographed filming Justice League in the traditional blue Superman costume, with a spit-curl. This was confirmed to be taken on the set of BvS, not Justice League.http://geektyrant.com/news/superman-dons-the-classic-look-in-picture-from-justice-league-set
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Dario the Wop posted:And Cyborg is gonna show up in The Flash film. Or maybe he's not! http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-flash-director-doesnt-agree-that-cyborgs-going-to-b-1785443430
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teagone posted:Did you think I was singling you out or something? I was just making a general comparison that had a lot of fanfare. No, you're just doing that thing again where everything is about wonder woman
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teagone posted:This was confirmed to be taken on the set of BvS, not Justice League.http://geektyrant.com/news/superman-dons-the-classic-look-in-picture-from-justice-league-set Super Dan posted:Or maybe he's not! 
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Ignite Memories posted:No, you're just doing that thing again where everything is about wonder woman Well, I am a WW fan  But why is that a problem? It's not like what I mentioned wasn't a topical/relative issue similar to Zendaya potentially being cast as Mary Jane. Sorry for triggering you by bringing up the controversy surrounding Gal's casting into comparison here.
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Okay since there isn't a ton of comic movie news and we need SOMETHING to get us out of the last two or three pages of bad faith pointless arguing Purge night posting: Overwatch Yeah it's a videogame but it also has a series of comics and it definitely wears its comic book inspirations on its sleeve as the whole premise is basically a superhero team objective game. Since the game itself is multiplayer and not story driven, the lore and narrative is done through comics and little one-off mini movies that are surprisingly high quality and fun. They have a very Pixar/Incredibles feel. Here are all of them. Overwatch Theatrical Teaser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBIwGKDwnWY Overwatch Cinematic Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqnKB22pOC0 Recall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB5zlHMsM7k Alive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U130wnpi-C0 Dragons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ09xdxzIJQ Hero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPRRupAM4DI The Last Bastion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8yh83jlXg I have no doubt in my mind that we'll see Blizzard develop this property into something more than an arena shooter timesink. I don't know if they're itching to do another movie after how badly World of Warcraft farted, but who knows. I could easily see them going for an animated series. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Do you like them? Hate them? Complete ambivalence? I dunno man I just can't deal with three more pages of people arguing over the definition of fuckboy or whether actors dying their hair is racist or what the precise hot/old ratio of Aunt may needs to be. SlimGoodbody fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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I would watch an overwatch movie if they got someone else to make it other than blizzard. Basically keep chris metzen as far away as possible.
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SlimGoodbody posted:I don't know if they're itching to do another movie after how badly World of Warcraft farted, but who knows. Bad reviews aside, didn't the Warcraft movie do really well financially?
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Hair Color chat is done in this thread. If you post about Hair Color in this thread again you're done as well. Also if you whine about a character being a different race from the comic you're done as well.
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SlimGoodbody posted:I have no doubt in my mind that we'll see Blizzard develop this property into something more than an arena shooter timesink. I don't know if they're itching to do another movie after how badly World of Warcraft farted, but who knows. I could easily see them going for an animated series. The major flaw I see with Overwatch is frankly that the 'lore' is a mess because it is salvaged from the remains of an MMO and bolted to a shooter so there's no real cohesion there.The characters and plot make no sense with the backstory and any characterization given to them through dialogue basically is nonsense. The latest Bastion short REALLY highlights that because they do an Iron Giant "death robot learns to love nature and reject violence" thing except... in-game he is defined as being a super-effective killing machine who turns into a turret and tank and murders people as a for-money mercenary. They'd either need to buckle down and make real lore/characterization/whatever or they'd just have this weird mess of a FPS with a completely contradictory story bolted onto it that they can't synergize well with.
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Ignite Memories posted:I would watch an overwatch movie if they got someone else to make it other than blizzard. Seriously. That guy is such a doofus and he has no idea. Soldier 76 is the much better (and still pretty dorky) reworking of a terrible comic book idea he had from when he was a teenager. mycot posted:Bad reviews aside, didn't the Warcraft movie do really well financially? Oh snap, did it? I guess I just assumed. Who is our numbers guy again, there's a poster who does really good breakdowns of how movies are performing and I can't remember who it is.
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SlimGoodbody posted:Okay since there isn't a ton of comic movie news and we need SOMETHING to get us out of the last two or three pages of bad faith pointless arguing Purge night posting: Overwatch I'm a big Overwatch nerd, and love everything about the game and the lore. Relevant to this thread's interests, there's a series of OW comic shorts that are pretty great: http://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us/ana-old-soldiers and they're even better in motion comic form: http://madefirestudios.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=%2F&q=overwatch There's also an OW graphic novel coming out (digitally) this upcoming November. As for an OW movie? Maybe. I'd prefer them to make a deal with Netflix or something and put together an animated miniseries instead.
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ImpAtom posted:The major flaw I see with Overwatch is frankly that the 'lore' is a mess because it is salvaged from the remains of an MMO and bolted to a shooter so there's no real cohesion there.The characters and plot make no sense with the backstory and any characterization given to them through dialogue basically is nonsense. You're not wrong, though I tend to look at the game as sort of being like Smash Bros. It's taking all your action figures and bashing them together in your lego town and on top of your Ninja Turtles bus. I think I've even heard someone say the game is the thing that's non-canonical, which is pretty funny. Plus, it's not like comics have the greatest history of building relationships and histories that make any sense or work with each other at all. It's why they keep having a multiverse collapse event every decade or so. It would be nice if they tried to hash the world out into making more sense though, yeah.
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mycot posted:Bad reviews aside, didn't the Warcraft movie do really well financially?
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No joke it's easier to write fanfiction this way when the lore/characterization is so half-assed and has giant holes in it. There's another numbers guy on this forum, but for # of fanfictions written, and Overwatch's are insane despite most of the characters not interacting meaningfully in any way. redbackground posted:In China. Hey that's how we're getting Pacific Rim 2.
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SlimGoodbody posted:I think I've even heard someone say the game is the thing that's non-canonical, which is pretty funny. I've heard something similar. It's a video game that exists within the Overwatch universe based on the heroes currently running around the universe.
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SlimGoodbody posted:I think I've even heard someone say the game is the thing that's non-canonical, which is pretty funny. This is the correct answer. It's an arena shooter with respawning and multiple copies of one-of-a-kind heroes on each team. The plot of the lore would be really dumb if they had to account for the fact that sometimes zenyatta and bastion work together to commit genocide on all mexican robots. I know TF2 worked all that poo poo into the plot, but it had a really stupid plot as a result.
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SlimGoodbody posted:You're not wrong, though I tend to look at the game as sort of being like Smash Bros. It's taking all your action figures and bashing them together in your lego town and on top of your Ninja Turtles bus. I think I've even heard someone say the game is the thing that's non-canonical, which is pretty funny. Well, in addition, I think it runs into a lot of weird tone problems. They don't really stand out in the game itself but On one end of the scale you have D.Va and Mei and Lucio and on the other hand you've got Soldier 76 and Reaper. The Justice League has proven you can absolutely make different tones work together but it requires a bit of effort that I'm not sure Blizzard can pull off. I think the backstory ("Evil robots attack, every nation develops their own superpowered arsenal to compensate") is probably the most interesting bit of the whole thing but also is apparently relentlessly grim and would really need a deft touch to handle well. That said I think the characters are the strongest point of Overwatch but part of that is that they're just cheerful and divorced from consequences and reality so they can be silly and fun instead of trying to make sense.
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SlimGoodbody posted:You're not wrong, though I tend to look at the game as sort of being like Smash Bros. It's taking all your action figures and bashing them together in your lego town and on top of your Ninja Turtles bus. I think I've even heard someone say the game is the thing that's non-canonical, which is pretty funny. That was me! I learned that from reading the musings of someone who attended the Overwatch SDCC panel. The devs straight up said the game is not canon in the OW universe and is instead basically what you described. quote:Plus, it's not like comics have the greatest history of building relationships and histories that make any sense or work with each other at all. It's why they keep having a multiverse collapse event every decade or so. I've kept up with the lore through a masterpost on tumblr (yeah, yeah) that is continually updated: http://starcunning.tumblr.com/post/144518806494/overwatch-lore-masterpost. It is the most comprehensive collection of every bit of media containing bits of the OW backstory. When you piece it all together, I personally think the world building that Blizzard has done is pretty solid, if overly unorthodox in its execution. It dawned on me recently that Overwatch is like the sleek/updated version of G.I. Joe when you think about it. teagone fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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teagone posted:I've kept up with the lore through a masterpost on tumblr (yeah, yeah) that is continually updated: http://starcunning.tumblr.com/post/144518806494/overwatch-lore-masterpost. It is the most comprehensive collection of every bit of media containing bits of the OW backstory. When you piece it all together, I personally think the world building that Blizzard has done is pretty solid, if overly unorthodox in its execution. It dawned on me recently that Overwatch is like the sleek/updated version of G.I. Joe when you think about it. Well there goes my afternoon (and the G.I. Joe parallel is spot on) You know come to think of it the game is probably the imaginings of the little kid with the green arm cast from the original short. Like after that little adventure he went home and made up elaborate battles with his Overwatch toys and that's what we're playing.
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MacheteZombie posted:I've heard something similar. It's a video game that exists within the Overwatch universe based on the heroes currently running around the universe. The Myst series actually did that. When the Myst MMO came around (which failed spectacularly) it reconned a bunch of stuff, the way they justified that in-universe was by saying that the previous games and books exist in-universe and were based on real events with some artistic license.
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