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al-azad posted:I have $500 wooden connectors for your PS1 to get that superior-to-every-format audio any takers? Do you have bags of very small rocks to put over your audio interconnects in order to have the widest soundstage, warmer mids and bright highs?
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Games?! I would never sully my SCP-1001 with game discs, this is purely a CD player.
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I AM THE TOILET posted:You guys realize the next logical step is for people to "rescue" repros and convert them back to the games they originally once were, right? Big long overproduced maudlin YouTube videos. Lol if you don't do this already. I also take rare carts and put madden roms in them.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:It's just SSF2T. "X" is the Japanese name for Turbo. The dipswitches already got mentioned, but I'll just add that a couple of them let you play Classics Collection or Hyper Street Fighter II are just fine, though, and IIRC one or both of them let you enable the previously exclusive 3DO soundtrack if you prefer. Uncle at Nintendo posted:I just wanted to chime in and say that the 8BITDO SNES gamepad with the wireless receiver is so great that I bought a 2nd one, and I can confirm the SNES will work with 2 wireless 8BITDO SNES pads without issue. I am not sure why I thought there could be an issue, but there isn't one. Works perfectly. Zero lag! I'm half considering it. And four of the NES ones. Wireless Spot and M.U.L.E.! Discount Viscount fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Aug 20, 2016 |
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Instant Sunrise posted:I'm gonna buy a Turbografix 16 and gut it for a mini ITX PC, but one of those ones where nothing actually fits so I have to cut holes in the case to get everything to fit. I finally finished the cabinet for my homebrew arcade game, Poopsnake Chaser. All I had to do was gut and repaint this old Bouncer machine.
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Discount Viscount posted:The dipswitches already got mentioned, but I'll just add that a couple of them let you play Fair warning, I have heard the NES one isn't as fantastic as the SNES one. I play the SNES way more than the NES so I never got them so I can't confirm. I can tell you that I play Super Mario World on the 8BITDO on the SNES as well as I do the original controller. I cannot say the same thing for playing with any wireless controller on Android emulators though. It's really weird but I find myself playing the SNES so much more now that I got these. I don't know why having wireless controllers makes such a big difference but it does. My wife and I play Tetris (the SNES one with doctor Mario) against each other every single night now. For some reason we weren't really doing that with the wired controllers.
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So I just put a backlight / bivert module into a Clear Play it Loud Game Boy and I couldn't be happier, I hope I am not doing retro games wrong  The DMG screen is really beautiful when it's properly illuminated 
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:So I just put a backlight / bivert module into a Clear Play it Loud Game Boy and I couldn't be happier, I hope I am not doing retro games wrong Wow, that looks great. How did you do it without getting dust particles or bubbles? is the motion blur still there? How did you get that white border? Awesome job!
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I'm in the repros are dumb camp. I own 2 repros that I got before I had the eureka moment that I'm wasting space and money. I bought bio force ape from someone here. I hadn't done any critical thought about it. It just seemed like it would be neat to have because I'm an impulsive collector and borderline hoarder. I bought Famicom Splatterhouse because I loved it and wanted to support a repro maker. Maybe the same as before. I own several homebrew because that's how the original creator intended it to be released. I'm really torn about repros, but I have financial bias. A repro nes copy of gun-nac is flat out counterfeiting, but a nes copy of Splatterhouse technically is even if it wasn't released for nes. I own several high end games so I have a vested interest in protecting value because I covet the monetary value more than their personal physical value. I felt bad about that reasoning until I realized it's because I still have access to the games via emulation. I'm a lifelong collector and counterfeiting irritates me in all hobbies. It's harder to take serious in modern hobbies, but if I see a collection of native American artifacts I don't want to see spear heads that someone whittled in their garage to make a quick buck.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:So I just put a backlight / bivert module into a Clear Play it Loud Game Boy and I couldn't be happier, I hope I am not doing retro games wrong nah, improving functionality is cool in my book, same goes for RGB mods etc. kthulu5k's hot rod analogy works here
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cosmicjim posted:I own several high end games so I have a vested interest in protecting value
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I also think retro gaming in general is really overpriced. Everything feels like it's going for more money than it should. I could easily sell most of my collection and make four times as how much I paid into it. But I don't like that it's expensive for someone to jump into collecting today. If anyone was starting from scratch, I'd tell them to invest in flashcarts and emulators and just hope you get lucky at garage sales or thrift stores. At least you can start off very well with a raspberry pi and 8bitdo controllers. And maybe slowly build up your collection. But the Era of having large shelves full of game is a rich boys dream now.
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You can still have shelves full of games, you just need to import them or get into the Genesis.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:Wow, that looks great. How did you do it without getting dust particles or bubbles? Thanks! It was my first mod and first time soldering in a long time. I was really diligent about keeping the screen and polarizer clean with a microfiber cloth before I packaged it all up. Next time I'll probably grab some diatomaceous earth to slip in between them. The white border is a glass replacement screen cover (I grabbed the game boy from ebay and the screen cover was missing). I got both the screen cover and the backlight / bivert mod from https://handheldlegend.com The blur is still there but feels improved - I'll try to grab a video later e: now I've got the bug and am probably going to do this to a couple of the other Play it Loud models I have - thinking of leaving the screen inverted for the black. But Rocks Hurt Head fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Aug 20, 2016 |
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d0s posted:weirdly also as an owner of lots of expensive games, I'm all for non-destructive ways to make those games less valuable. these games shouldn't be so expensive, if people want to make fakes from scratch (as long as it's obvious somehow) I don't give a fuuuuuck. it's a good thing if more non-rich people can enjoy a rare game on real hardware I'm not mad about it and don't generally make a fuss about it, but I don't understand what the point of making a fake replica of a thing is if you have other ways to experience it. I like Charlie Chaplin movies, but I'm not going to make a fake celluloid reel. I'm going to watch it digitally. If we compare it to display replicas, then most people don't take their fake cartridge and hang it on the wall for full display like a replica sword. At best it's on a shelf with the spine displayed among other games. But if that's what makes you happy, go for it.
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Ineffiable posted:I also think retro gaming in general is really overpriced. Everything feels like it's going for more money than it should. I could easily sell most of my collection and make four times as how much I paid into it. Pretty much, yeah. Ten years ago I was firmly in the camp of Authentic Collections and Large Shelves Full of Games. Nowadays I tell anybody getting into it to just go the flashcart/emulation route. Even thrift stores and garage sales aren't as great as they used to be. Back in the late '90s and most of the '00s I could regularly find popular NES and SNES games in lots, or the occasional near mint US Saturn JRPG for $5. Lately I've been seeing people descend on a stack of random worthless SNES sports titles like vultures, browsing their phones hoping that Madden '93 is actually $40.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:Fair warning, I have heard the NES one isn't as fantastic as the SNES one. I play the SNES way more than the NES so I never got them so I can't confirm. The receivers both work great and accept the same controllers, so you could use an SNES30 with the NES receiver, or the NES30 with the SNES one. Or a Wii U pro controller, or a Dual Shock 4. I hope they keep making more receivers. Genesis, N64, Gamecube, PS1/2... It'd be great to play PS1 and PS2 games with a Dual Shock 4.
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cosmicjim posted:I'm not mad about it and don't generally make a fuss about it, but I don't understand what the point of making a fake replica of a thing is if you have other ways to experience it. oh definitley I think using a flashcart makes way more sense than a fake cart but going by this thread lots of people like fake carts even over flash carts. not my taste but I don't see the problem as long as it's not destructive, the fact that it devalues a legit "collector's item" should be considered a good thing, imo
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I have some games, around 20-30 for my systems each (NES/Famicom, SNES/SFC, Megadrive/Genesis) but I've mostly bought them a few years back when the market was still more affordable. This year I've bought very little, if anything, trimming my collection (getting rid of my PAL stuff etc.). I'm not exactly swimming in cash so I have a real hard time telling myself that I should get a 100 € game instead of one 100 € flashcart. Although I don't own any flashcarts yet (a lot of is me still contemplating on whether the cheaper Super Everdrive would be sufficient for my current erratic gaming style) I will get 'em in the future. On the other hand I don't think I'd want to sell my collection even if I do get flashcarts. I might still pick up games if a good deal comes along. And knowing myself I'd go mad if I sold my NES/Famicom/SNES/MD stuff and kept my burned Saturn and PS1 games. (which is another thing I'm more than happy to do nowadays). All in all I'm firmly in the camp who wants to play the games on the original hardware - got my PVM and RGB consoles, but I have no nostalgia about the cart itself.
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Mercury Crusader posted:Even thrift stores and garage sales aren't as great as they used to be. Nowadays, all the Goodwills around here shuffle their video game stuff into the Saturday afternoon live auction cases because they know some ebay flipper rear end in a top hat is going to grab it for an unreasonable amount. There's no such thing as a good deal anymore because everybody knows how much a thing goes for and everybody knows to price it at like 150% of that or more. I didn't even bother going in on the auction for a Jazz Chorus I saw recently because even though the starting bid was $50, I knew it was going to go for like ten times that. Last time I found something interesting at a thrift store, it was Rambo on the NES for $7. Not the sort of story you come to the thread with like "YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT I FOUND."
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d0s posted:oh definitley I think using a flashcart makes way more sense than a fake cart but going by this thread lots of people like fake carts even over flash carts. not my taste but I don't see the problem as long as it's not destructive, the fact that it devalues a legit "collector's item" should be considered a good thing, imo I'm not even worried about it devaluing my collection. My lizard brain likes to collect things, but it for whatever reason It has to be authentic things. To me a collection of fake games is like having a collection of fake Coach purses.
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cosmicjim posted:I'm not even worried about it devaluing my collection. My lizard brain likes to collect things, but it for whatever reason It has to be authentic things. To me a collection of fake games is like having a collection of fake Coach purses. I agree that getting fake games for "collector" reasons is strange, and apart from a few edge cases flash carts provide way more utility. I have a shitload of legit games and no flash carts or repros (but lots of burned CDs), but I don't really consider myself a collector, I got most of my games when this stuff was still cheap and have almost everything I want. to me a collection is a hassle and I keep getting closer and closer to cashing out and getting all the flash carts
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Yeah I can't think of flash carts as things to collect. They're more tools that allow you to get games on real hardware that you might not have been able to afford. 8bitdo stuff is the same way. It's a tool to help enjoy the retro gaming scene, but in no way is it a collectible item. Now here's a new thing: how you guys feel about repro boxes and manuals? Works for getting shelf candy, just like repro carts.
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xamphear posted:Can confirm. I have an NES30 and an SNES30 and the SNES30 has a higher build quality. The NES30 isn't bad or anything, it's just not as good. My NES30 also has a mushy D-pad Up, so I'm going to swap it out, hoping that's just a one-off defect. Has anyone else experienced a slight buzzing with the NES30 plugged in? I haven't tried it on my setup yet but a friend had noticable audio buzzing as soon as the bluetooth light came on.
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That means that your AC adapter is poo poo, you should get a stronger one.
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cosmicjim posted:I'm not mad about it and don't generally make a fuss about it, but I don't understand what the point of making a fake replica of a thing is if you have other ways to experience it. that's why you're not a film nerd and you're a game nerd. talk to a movie nerd about film projection vs digital and they'll tell you about 35mm and why it's better than digital etc
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I am surprised no one posted this article about NES games on the Microsoft VR thing! http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/08/video_augmented_reality_nes_gaming_finally_gives_us_a_reason_to_want_microsofts_hololens xamphear posted:The receivers both work great and accept the same controllers, so you could use an SNES30 with the NES receiver, or the NES30 with the SNES one. OK this I had NO idea about. That is amazing. I am now buying 2 NES receivers. Yeah it will be a bit blasphemous playing NES games with an SNES controller, but not having my 1 year old rip the consoles out of the wall and me not having to worry about where the wire is dangling is huge. As for you wanting to replace the mushy d-pad in your NES30, though I cannot confirm with the NES30 because I do not own one, the SNES30 is absolutely identical to the original SNES controller inside (meaning the membranes and stuff). As an experiment I swapped out the d-pad, the d-pad membrane, the ABXY buttons, the ABXY membranes, and the L and R buttons and membranes between a real SNES controller and the SNES30 and it fit perfectly. Ineffiable posted:Yeah I can't think of flash carts as things to collect. They're more tools that allow you to get games on real hardware that you might not have been able to afford. The only reason I would buy more than 1 flashcart is because I am very paranoid and if my SD2SNES or Everdrive N8 dies or gets stolen in 20 years, I am pretty sure I am 100% poo poo out of luck in ever finding a replacement. I thought I was insane for having two Sega Saturn modchips but here we are in a situation where there are zero out there now. The only thing that stopped me from actually doing it is that they are not cheap.
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Ineffiable posted:Yeah I can't think of flash carts as things to collect. They're more tools that allow you to get games on real hardware that you might not have been able to afford. But there's lots of forever discontinued ones to collect.  Not to mention all the disk based copiers and the like.
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Jesus I'm sorry I touched off a shitstorm. I considered a repro of Gun Nac as it's the cheapest short term option to have the game to shove into my NES, but definitely not the best long term option. Hell I am one of those cart loving freaks, I could buy a flashcart but I couldn't sell out the rest of my collection to do it (see my stack of NGPC games in addition to a flashcart). Plus I'm not sure I could handle the pressure of owning a $170 game. I'd be too afraid something would happen to it.Ineffiable posted:Now here's a new thing: how you guys feel about repro boxes and manuals? Works for getting shelf candy, just like repro carts. Like reproducing the originals or those universal plastic clamshell game cases? I don't mind the universal cases with a nice insert in the front but redoing the original packaging is kinda dumb and opens up a big can of worms. A good chunk of those game boxes were probably meant to be disposable anyway.
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Ineffiable posted:I also think retro gaming in general is really overpriced. Everything feels like it's going for more money than it should. I could easily sell most of my collection and make four times as how much I paid into it. I mean you're gonna have some games like Fire Emblem Path of Radiance that cost way too much but thankfully they're the exception FOR NOW for now (for now)
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Ineffiable posted:I also think retro gaming in general is really overpriced. Everything feels like it's going for more money than it should. I could easily sell most of my collection and make four times as how much I paid into it. This is pretty much what I did over the past few years, and I haven't regretted it. I kept my favorites for each system, and I only re-bought one or two of the games I sold off. And that was because they were cheap to acquire again. Of course, if you're cashing out you could wait and see if prices will get even more insane. Anything deemed rare seems to go up at least 20 percent each year. I wonder how much further it'll go. People pay almost $500 for the Hagane box (yes, just the box) these days. Will we see a future where Pocky & Rocky costs more than a house and the evening news does a piece on someone who found a "million dollar" video game called Metal Warriors?
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Ineffiable posted:Now here's a new thing: how you guys feel about repro boxes and manuals? Works for getting shelf candy, just like repro carts. shame candy
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Quest For Glory II posted:Right now the best place to start with retro collecting is the PS2 generation because you can still get many games really cheap, and though ps2 emulation has gotten really good it's still not 100% (I'm not sure where OG Xbox emulation is at). Although being honest I don't know how long this is gonna last. That price creep is slowly settling in. But FOR NOW you can jump in there. How about a complete copy of Blood Will Tell? I was looking up prices really quick to make some jokes; when the gently caress did Yakuza 2, Echo Night Beyond, and Obscure become so absurdly expensive? The escalating prices on Rule of Rose and Kuon is to be expected since those are severely underprinted horror games that never really got cheap, but you couldn't give Obscure away! Also loose disks of Dark Cloud 2 going for $25? I bought a copy a couple of weeks ago for $3...
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Ineffiable posted:Now here's a new thing: how you guys feel about repro boxes and manuals? Works for getting shelf candy, just like repro carts. I'm cool with people doing nice graphics or reproduction box art for those clamshell cases you can get for your old cartridges, that's totally reasonable in making a shelf look nice and neat. But cardboard? Nah, gently caress that.
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I think that's a reasonable fear. There's not really that many out there and there's only a few individuals who bother making them. And it's pretty easy for them to get tired of making them or trickle out at a glacial pace which leads to year long wait lists or something. That's why I bought the dream cast gdu flash drive thing. I know cd drives are gonna have more of a chance to crap out than anything else so I effectively made my dream cast immortal (I even have a spare system I can use for parts or transfer the gdu into) I hope to do the same thing for my Saturn one day. I feel like it's highly unlikely a flash cart could die without it being an accident and I'll find it funny if someone has to report a flash cart on a police report. Just seems like they'd just take your TV and be done with it.
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Random Stranger posted:How about a complete copy of Blood Will Tell? Yeah its funny but I think ps2 is already too late. The turning point was when gamestop was clearing out about 3 years ago. And sadly, gamestop threw out a lot of cases and manuals and sold them as disc only to save space. Getting good ps2 game cases and manuals might be almost as rare as cart games which is funny because you'd think it'd just be an easy thing to get complete.
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I solve the box dilemma by not displaying boxes, even if I have em (except optical disc games). boxes go in storage or sold, bare carts go on the shelf. even genesis games 
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Ineffiable posted:Yeah its funny but I think ps2 is already too late. The turning point was when gamestop was clearing out about 3 years ago. And sadly, gamestop threw out a lot of cases and manuals and sold them as disc only to save space. Getting good ps2 game cases and manuals might be almost as rare as cart games which is funny because you'd think it'd just be an easy thing to get complete. We're in this situation now for DS games. The point in which you can get good ds games sub $10 at gamestop is over now only the shovelware crap is left in store. And again they chucked the cases to save space. DS game cases are currently cheap on ebay, but I suspect that will rise eventually, especially as Dumpster diver/gamestop employees/savvy trade in people run out of a steady supply of them.
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Ineffiable posted:Yeah its funny but I think ps2 is already too late. The turning point was when gamestop was clearing out about 3 years ago. And sadly, gamestop threw out a lot of cases and manuals and sold them as disc only to save space. Getting good ps2 game cases and manuals might be almost as rare as cart games which is funny because you'd think it'd just be an easy thing to get complete. I doubt Gamestop deliberately threw out cases and manuals in bulk, so much as people traded in disc only games, or games in hosed up cases missing the manual/cover art paper or with that stuff ripped up. I mean they had all those blank DVD cases available for games they only had a disc for after all. I mean I remember plenty of times picking up some game or other and there was someone ahead in line trading in games with literally the whole front half the case ripped off, or a disc or DS cart rubber-banded to a beat up manual fishmech fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Aug 20, 2016 |
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