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Cao Ni Ma posted:I too was surprised. I wanted you to have to deconstruct your ship (at both a monetary and time cost), then have to make a contract for a player to ship the ship parts to the station you want, then you'd have to wait for the ship to get there and pay a fee to put it back together while you wait for that to be done. Oh and if the person transporting your ship died on route then you lose the ship and they get hit with a massive insurance cost. Holy lol how did I miss this terrible idea.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Holy lol how did I miss this terrible idea. That's basically how it works in EVE Online.  No-one forces you to take your ship apart, of course. Assembled ships just take a lot of space, making it harder to find people willing to transport your ship. But nowadays EVE Online has several ships large enough so you (very slowly) can transport your own ships, always at the risk of getting ambushed and losing everyhing. Fun!
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Aug 21, 2016 20:12
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Eve has the 'advantage' that anyone who is still bothered to play it is so absurdly rich that they have their own carrier fleet across their ten characters (£9 a month, each) to move their ships anywhere they want
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Holy lol how did I miss this terrible idea. I though that dude was joking. But personally i think that the way FSDs work is too gamey. Time should jump dozens if not hundreds or thousands of years every time someone makes a jump, so that after they do it the servers are dead and the game crashes and your computer is broken and you instantly turn into a pile of bone dust
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Rah! posted:I though that dude was joking. lmao same, here let me try this: Cao Ni Ma posted:I too was surprised. I wanted you to have to deconstruct your ship (at both a monetary and time cost), then have to make a contract for a player to ship the ship parts to the station you want, then you'd have to wait for the ship to get there and pay a fee to put it back together while you wait for that to be done. Oh and if the person transporting your ship died on route then you lose the ship and they get hit with a massive insurance cost. source your quotes
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Aug 21, 2016 20:25
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Rah! posted:I though that dude was joking. Upon emerging the player should instead be left to contemplate how time's inexorable march has left them adrift and utterly alone in an uncaring universe, as the civilisation they left behind no longer exists and everyone they know and love is long dead. Actually, doesn't sound too different to the game now tbh.
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Aug 21, 2016 21:19
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Helter Skelter posted:No, I'm pretty sure we all agree that the rep grind for the big ships is kind of terrible. You just decided to pick a weird hill to die on. Also I legit thought that dude was trolling when he first made that post because it was so dumb
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Aug 21, 2016 21:27
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It sounded like brown sea satire to me.Kurr de la Cruz posted:I am hard at work preparing a comprehensive guide for engineers, and it DOES in fact include a section on how to get the elusive Modified Embedded Firmwares. The Tadpoles Uplifting Engineering Primer will be available soon. Looking forward to this though! I've managed to level up a few of them and have a rank 4 FSD range on my asp but without knowing where to get the really obscure poo poo rank 5 mods are going to be loving awful to get.
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Aug 21, 2016 21:28
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Sultan Tarquin posted:It sounded like brown sea satire to me. Inara has a database of all of the components/materials and where to find them! For Arsenic, check the system map for planets with arsenic. You will want a bunch for FSD-boosting anyways! The other two you can get from killing transport ships. Type-6/7/9s will do fine for that. Just fly around interdicting them in an anarchy system for no bounty! 
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Aug 21, 2016 21:47
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Thought I'd take a look at this thread after being uber casual about Elite for ages. What is this Brown Sea you speak of? I too haven't touched Engineers because I dunno how to find one anywhere close to me that would want to speak to me. And I have been too lazy to read up on it.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Holy lol how did I miss this terrible idea. Wow you actually thought I was being serious 
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In my defense I was tired after working all night and biking home. And I'm an idiot too so there you go.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Wow you actually thought I was being serious
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Aug 21, 2016 22:15
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if only Eve never existed so its players weren't around to infest every single game remotely related to space
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Shipon posted:if only Eve never existed so its players weren't around to infest every single game remotely related to space The way Eve players burn out and move to other games then complain they aren't enough like Eve is an excellent example of Double Plus Good thinking.
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gently caress, fit my Asp for max cargo and flew out to Robigo. Can't take any missions because I need to be cordial and there's no way to raise rep because I'm not cordial. Sothis and Ceos got UA bombed too so you can't do anything there till it updates that they're fixed. gently caress.
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Aug 21, 2016 23:18
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DancingShade posted:The way Eve players burn out and move to other games then complain they aren't enough like Eve is an excellent example of Double Plus Good thinking. I was thinking battered spouse.
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Aug 21, 2016 23:20
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Insert name here posted:I mean to be fair the last person who posted something like that turned out to be actually serious so can you blame him Don't look at me, man, I can't help that many people are saying instantaneous ship repair is an immersion-killer
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Sultan Tarquin posted:gently caress, fit my Asp for max cargo and flew out to Robigo. Can't take any missions because I need to be cordial and there's no way to raise rep because I'm not cordial. Sothis and Ceos got UA bombed too so you can't do anything there till it updates that they're fixed. gently caress.
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Aug 21, 2016 23:21
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By the way, since we can move ships around, can we do credit transfers yet? Or is that too much of an affront to serious gamers?
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FronzelNeekburm posted:By the way, since we can move ships around, can we do credit transfers yet? Or is that too much of an affront to serious gamers? Wash your mouth out with engine coolant, you affront to purity! Honestly I don't get why stuff like that isn't a thing. Luckily I rarely interact with real people in ED despite always playing on open so it hasn't been an issue. But I would like to have a storage locker.
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I never knew I even wanted instant ship transfer until the brown sea started bitching about it. Now I want it more than anything. The added bonus of so many literal slaps in the face is wonderful.
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Sultan Tarquin posted:gently caress, fit my Asp for max cargo and flew out to Robigo. Can't take any missions because I need to be cordial and there's no way to raise rep because I'm not cordial. Sothis and Ceos got UA bombed too so you can't do anything there till it updates that they're fixed. gently caress. Can you not sell exploration data any more? That's how I got my faction raised. If not: get rep with Sirius Corporation back near Sol/Sirius (you need it for Marco Qwent anyways): they have a faction at Sothis.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Can you not sell exploration data any more? That's how I got my faction raised. If not: get rep with Sirius Corporation back near Sol/Sirius (you need it for Marco Qwent anyways): they have a faction at Sothis. Sothis mining is unaffected so I got a cargo full of legal goods. Might have to go work on sirius rep then.
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Seeing all the posts about Sothis being UA bombed, is there any reason people don't do the Aditi - Synuefe RT-R c20-7 Diamond Vision run?
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Trustworthy posted:Don't look at me, man, I can't help that many people are saying instantaneous ship repair is an immersion-killer Look, I agree that "oh hey, my entire fleet can teleport" is absolutely horrible from a suspension of disbelief standpoint, for people who care about such things in video games. A lot apparently don't but neither of these things mean anything much; they are facts to be recognized. It is quite annoying from a gameplay standpoint, though, to find, oh, you want to do some thing today but can't because you didn't think of that earlier and prepared for this thing you just now decided to do. So consider this: The teleport-my-ship button, as a gameplay device, is a time machine. It makes your fictional character have sent the ship on its way in the fictional past, because, other than the real-world player, they were planning ahead. For consistency, they could calculate the time of departure and deny the teleport if you've used the ship since then.
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Aug 22, 2016 00:04
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Imagine the loading screen had a spongebob timecard on it.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Can you not sell exploration data any more? That's how I got my faction raised. If not: get rep with Sirius Corporation back near Sol/Sirius (you need it for Marco Qwent anyways): they have a faction at Sothis. You can even just trade. Both selling and buying stuff from a station raises rep with the station owner. (Selling only if you make a profit, losing money makes your rep go down.) There are a lot of factions I'm only on friendly terms with thanks to trading-CGs
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tooterfish posted:Ridiculous. Everyone knows time doesn't progress for a ship in witchspace. Imagine this in a text box, plus a 2 minute, wide-screen shot of the horizon telling you you achieved an  milestone in the game, and you basically have the entirety of No Man's Sky, minus all the video game content.
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to me what gets me immersed in a game is it being fun to play
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Dabir posted:Imagine the loading screen had a spongebob timecard on it. Could there be an arbitrary 90-second post-loading cooldown timer before it let me play the game? If so, I'm down
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crayon85 posted:Seeing all the posts about Sothis being UA bombed, is there any reason people don't do the Aditi - Synuefe RT-R c20-7 Diamond Vision run? Can you elaborate? I checked on the galaxy map and they're directly next to each other, unless you buy from both then just sell in the bubble?
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Trustworthy posted:Could there be an arbitrary 90-second post-loading cooldown timer before it let me play the game? If so, I'm down Don't they take that long already?
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frank.club posted:to me what gets me immersed in a game is it being fun to play This is it.
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I liked it how in Sonic, when you jumped on the spikes and died, you had to chase down a pregnant hedgehog, hit it with a can of spraypaint, wait for it to give birth, steal one of its young, and then force it to act out a 1980's training montage before you could go on with the game.
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I agree the brownsea is bad at expressing opinions (the people who say they're quitting now that "magic is canon" ) but I dunno, I think they're right QoL should always take precedent over gameplay unless it's outright detracting from the premise of the gameplay, and in the case I think it is. I mean, the game is about scale, right? It's going to be a pretty big disconnect when you spend hours or days flinging yourself across the galaxy only to then instantly teleport all your poo poo without explanation There's like a dozen different ways they can find some sort of compromise, and I hope they will find something a bit more elegant than what they showed off
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DreadLlama posted:I liked it how in Sonic, when you jumped on the spikes and died, you had to chase down a pregnant hedgehog, hit it with a can of spraypaint, wait for it to give birth, steal one of its young, and then force it to act out a 1980's training montage before you could go on with the game. Good point except Elite's a science fiction space simulator and not a cartoon platformer for literal children edit: seriouspost: Didn't Sothis already get UA bombed a while back? I was under the impression that stations were impervious to UAs after their first incident. Has this been disproven? Or am I misremembering and this is really Sothis's first round of UA hijinks?
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SirPenguin posted:I agree the brownsea is bad at expressing opinions (the people who say they're quitting now that "magic is canon" (it's a video game, having a timer to migrate your poo poo is pointless)
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SirPenguin posted:I agree the brownsea is bad at expressing opinions (the people who say they're quitting now that "magic is canon" Honest question: Why does instantly teleportating poo poo without explanation OK when you die?
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