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what is the best form of transit
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infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

why would that be the case?

# ? Aug 17, 2016 19:04

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# ? May 28, 2024 13:58

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Cygni posted:

that dont locally pollute, move 4 times as many people, are more reliable, generally have much more grade separation, and are much harder for lovely local politicians to get rid of

as an engineer my favorite at-grade light rail lines have much more grade separation

# ? Aug 17, 2016 19:06

theflyingexecutive: Apr 22, 2007

Cygni posted:

that dont locally pollute, move 4 times as many people, are more reliable, generally have much more grade separation, and are much harder for lovely local politicians to get rid of

for sure. but the question was "what should be on roads?" and light rail does not belong

# ? Aug 17, 2016 19:07

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

the streetcar goes from union station to the anacostia along h st/benning road. the x2 bus goes out to minnesota ave on the east end and lafayette square on the west (a much longer, more useful distance), so it's going to be used by local (black) commuters a lot more. the street car is primarily intended to shuttle non-locals (white) to the slowly gentrifying atlas district to drink.

on the plus side the streetcar is free because dc never bothered to install pay terminals in the several years they were sitting in a trainyard waiting for the rails to be built nor in the multiple years they spent testing the cars without passengers

# ? Aug 17, 2016 19:18

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

oh, so it's not actually the same route.

are they cutting the bus service now that the street car is in place?

# ? Aug 17, 2016 19:23

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

here in toronto our subways are racist bullshit

specifically the one-stop subway they're "building"* to replace an aging SRT line. it connects a suburban mall to the subway, instead of having 7 stops through a transit desert and connecting to a larger 21 stop network planned. the neighbourhoods it will run under, rather than through are largely ethnic low income. instead of serving the ~70% of transit trips that begin and end in the region, it will serve those who commute into downtown and no one else

*not actually under construction in any sense and no route has been selected yet

# ? Aug 17, 2016 19:26

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

yeah, it's not exactly the same, i guess that is important.

and no, bus service is the same as far as i'm aware. they're owned and operated by different authorities.

# ? Aug 17, 2016 19:29

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

it's still ~~racist~~classist maybe, with the attendant racial issues? it's just racist in the sense that it's clearly targeted to more affluent transit users who can afford to live in better neighbourhoods, meaning it's siphoning people out of the rest of the system, potentially depriving them of revenue needed to keep the other routes viable

# ? Aug 17, 2016 19:34

blugu64: Jul 17, 2006; Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

why would you say DOUBLE-U instead of whatever word that it's abbreviating in the first place

because it's pronounced dubya

# ? Aug 17, 2016 21:22

TheShazbot: Feb 20, 2011

If you think bombardier is bad, my local transit company had to directly pay their supplier's bills (colorado railcar)

http://www.oregonlive.com/special/index.ssf/2008/12/trimet.html

We paid 166 million dollars for leasing of 15 miles of track, and the daily ridership is less than 2000 people.

Basically, it was lovely and doesn't really help commuters at all, given where the trainline goes, and the limited service (daytime commuters only, weekdays)

The coolest thing about the "Westside Express Service" is this:

http://railfan.com/extraboard/rf_extra_mar2011.php

Two 1950's Budd RDC units as backup cars, because they couldn't find a supplier. Pretty cool. I haven't went and tried to ride one of these yet, as it's a bit out of the way.

# ? Aug 18, 2016 01:06

Cygni: Nov 12, 2005; raring to post

TheShazbot posted:

We paid 166 million dollars for leasing of 15 miles of track, and the daily ridership is less than 2000 people.

sadly thats not that terrible in the national context. the projected ridership was only 2500 a day to begin with, which actually meets the federal numbers for grants and such.

reminder that adding 1 lane of highway in semiurban areas (without reconstructing any bridges or intersections) cost upwards of $8 million a mile, not counting any maintenance, and serves roughly the same number of cars. also highways, you know, fill up again and make traffic worse

basically the best way to invest in transportation of any kind is to have already done in 60 years ago

# ? Aug 18, 2016 02:53

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Cygni posted:

reminder that adding 1 lane of highway in semiurban areas (without reconstructing any bridges or intersections) cost upwards of $8 million a mile, not counting any maintenance, and serves roughly the same number of cars. also highways, you know, fill up again and make traffic worse

basically the best way to invest in transportation of any kind is to have already done in 60 years ago

p much tho i'd estimate at closer to 10 or 11 based on right of way acquisitions nowadays (more where even the nowhere land is expensive like california)

and interchanges (ramps) and bridges are hellishly expensive all by themselves which can easily dwarf the rest of the project's cost just for rehabbing or replacing one or two "minor" ones

roads are a big stupid waste of money

# ? Aug 18, 2016 03:02

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

agreed lets replace them w/ trains

# ? Aug 18, 2016 03:30

Beast of Bourbon: Sep 25, 2013; Pillbug

what kind of train is the best train?

# ? Aug 18, 2016 03:34

There Will Be Penalty: May 18, 2002; Makes a great pet!

Beast of Bourbon posted:

what kind of train is the best train?

# ? Aug 18, 2016 03:56

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Beast of Bourbon posted:

what kind of train is the best train?

the kind where a buncha chicks bang me in a row

# ? Aug 18, 2016 03:57

distortion park: Apr 25, 2011

Beast of Bourbon posted:

what kind of train is the best train?

https://youtu.be/8skXT5NQzCg

# ? Aug 20, 2016 15:27

Asymmetric POSTer: Aug 17, 2005

Beast of Bourbon posted:

what kind of train is the best train?

http://youtu.be/x_zC7QK64Ks

# ? Aug 20, 2016 15:54

EIDE Van Hagar: Dec 8, 2000; Beep Boop

~aaaactually~

35w is pronounced "thitty fahv dubya" in texas

# ? Aug 21, 2016 00:36

Wild EEPROM: Jul 29, 2011; oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

i am the most qualified person in all of yospos to talk about transit

Wild EEPROM fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Jan 15, 2017

# ? Aug 21, 2016 01:33

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Wild EEPROM posted:

i work for a transit company and this makes me the most qualified person in all of yospos to talk about transit

i've helped design light rail projects and also have enough autism to enjoy trains

checkmate

# ? Aug 21, 2016 02:12

Cygni: Nov 12, 2005; raring to post

im a idio t

checkmate

# ? Aug 21, 2016 02:42

Lutha Mahtin: Oct 10, 2010; Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

i have to deal with our local paratransit agency on a weekly basis and sometimes i wonder how the contractors manage to keep their buses on the road :sigh:

# ? Aug 21, 2016 03:04

blugu64: Jul 17, 2006; Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

I drive on 35 dubya

# ? Aug 21, 2016 03:39

Wild EEPROM: Jul 29, 2011; oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i've helped design light rail projects and also have enough autism to enjoy trains

checkmate

I ride a train every single day and they pay me to do so.

# ? Aug 21, 2016 04:23

Beast of Bourbon: Sep 25, 2013; Pillbug

if I need to go downtown i'll take the gold line, it works out pretty great for $1.75

# ? Aug 21, 2016 04:26

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Wild EEPROM posted:

I ride a train every single day and they pay me to do so.

*surreptitiously hides boner*

well i ride one to commute most days and my boss gives me extra money to do so tho it doesn't cover the entire monthly pass

*boner evaporates in shame*

# ? Aug 21, 2016 05:14

Asymmetric POSTer: Aug 17, 2005

Wild EEPROM posted:

I ride a train every single day and they pay me to do so.

nice

# ? Aug 21, 2016 05:17

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I'm in school for urban planning

# ? Aug 21, 2016 07:01

oh no blimp issue: Feb 23, 2011

im an engineer

# ? Aug 21, 2016 14:23

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

i read "trainspotting" once

# ? Aug 21, 2016 15:56

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

i once saw a bus in a poor neighbourhood

# ? Aug 21, 2016 17:03

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

I ride a bus to work for free

# ? Aug 21, 2016 17:20

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

i rode a bus today instead of taking the subway, because taking the bus meant a few minutes less walking

# ? Aug 21, 2016 17:24

super nailgun: Jan 1, 2014

I commute on America's Best Transit System 1989-90

Mostly on buses instead of light rail since moving though :rip:

# ? Aug 21, 2016 19:30

Asymmetric POSTer: Aug 17, 2005

Bloody posted:

i rode a bus today instead of taking the subway, because taking the bus meant a few minutes less walking

not cool

# ? Aug 21, 2016 23:54

Lutha Mahtin: Oct 10, 2010; Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

# ? Aug 22, 2016 00:46

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
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Lutha Mahtin posted:

Lmfao

# ? Aug 22, 2016 01:06

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Lutha Mahtin posted:

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blugu64: Jul 17, 2006; Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

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# ? Aug 22, 2016 01:17

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