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Pierogi posted:That''s a repost from the other page, but still quality. He's really good and I won't apologize for reposting.
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think it means they want their internet to be self sufficient. No outside connectivity needed. This will evolve into no outside connectivity desired. They are going to hardwire themselves out of the rest of the worlds internet. Or at least have the capability to.
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Hurray for the Antifaschistischen SchutzFirewall
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Russia has gotten a new education minister, an orthodox ultra-conservative monarchist.
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kalstrams posted:Yeah it does, also stronger enforcement of censorship. Let's not forget they're going to monitor the poo poo out of everything, like that FaceFinder poo poo, so if anyone complains about anything, they'll get a visit from the FSB, Night Wolves, or whoever.
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Who does a monarchist want to be the monarch in a country where the previous monarchy was liquidated? Themselves? Some random? Or some random 5th cousin of the Romanovs?
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http://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/1706423.html St. Petersburg government cut spending on building of schools and hospitals in favor of soccer stadium construction (partly for the World Cup, partly for the local club).
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Best Friends posted:Who does a monarchist want to be the monarch in a country where the previous monarchy was liquidated? Themselves? Some random? Or some random 5th cousin of the Romanovs?
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I can't find anything about her in english sources except this nice quote at The Moscow Timesquote:Olga Vasilyeva, who was appointed to her new role on Friday, has previously praised the "efficiency" of the Stalin period and claimed that the leader's purges were both "necessary at the time" and "exaggerated" in history books.
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A Stalinist Monarchist. That's some high level efficiency in terribleness.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:A Stalinist Monarchist. Or "Russian-backed separatists" as many call them.  
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Best Friends posted:Who does a monarchist want to be the monarch in a country where the previous monarchy was liquidated? Themselves? Some random? Or some random 5th cousin of the Romanovs? Being a monarchist (or communist) in Russia does not mean that the person is politically active in pursuing a monarchy (or communism), since no thought besides Putin being the immortal ruler of Russia can be allowed to exist or discussed. Rather, it more often than not means that the person exhausts the most detestable aspects of Czarsist (or Stalin's) rule and wishes they be emulated within the existing framework of the current regime.
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Radio Prune posted:Or "Russian-backed separatists" as many call them.
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eigenstate posted:Being a monarchist (or communist) in Russia does not mean that the person is politically active in pursuing a monarchy (or communism), since no thought besides Putin being the immortal ruler of Russia can be allowed to exist or discussed. Rather, it more often than not means that the person exhausts the most detestable aspects of Czarsist (or Stalin's) rule and wishes they be emulated within the existing framework of the current regime. There is also Zhirinovskiy, who is in "opposition" to Putin's party on grounds of it not having declared Putin Tzar, if I am not getting some stunts mixed up.
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kalstrams posted:She seems to fetishise Romanovs. Maybe if somewhere in Tsarskoje Selo's gardens you could find a 100 year old mosquito with the Tsar's blood, embedded in some resin...
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Dwesa posted:I can't find anything about her in english sources except this nice quote at The Moscow Times Edit: In other Russian news, Navalnyi has announced plan to run for president in 2018. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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RIP Navalnyi.
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Rincewinds posted:RIP Navalnyi.
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Rincewinds posted:RIP Navalnyi. Meh, they might not even bother actually jailing him.
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Thing is here is that he still just plans it, they can just make a bureaucratic slog out of it and continue exchange of passive-aggressive statements over the social media.
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kalstrams posted:Thing is here is that he still just plans it, they can just make a bureaucratic slog out of it and continue exchange of passive-aggressive statements over the social media. Yeah, and that may be acceptable to the Kremlin. They know his popularity even in Moscow took a big hit, and that he has never had much sway outside of it.
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If I recall, election law in Russia stipulates only candidates who have their party registered in every jurisdiction of Russia can legally run. Not sure if Navalny can manage that if true.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:If I recall, election law in Russia stipulates only candidates who have their party registered in every jurisdiction of Russia can legally run. Not sure if Navalny can manage that if true. They'd just find his body on a bridge next to the Kremlin if he did.
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One of our most beloved Something Awful celebrities is a CIA shill, so that's fine. 
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Have actually considered writing a paper on the weird crossover between Tsarist-era nostalgia and Stalin-era nostalgia. It seems so bizarre to Western outsiders.. simultaneously fetishising Cromwell's Protectorate and Charles the first's bumbling absolutism? It's fascinating how opposed ideological / historical images can find rapprochement under neo-Slavophile thought. If anything, it's a reduction of substance to pure image - Stalin the national savior, the Orthodox purity of Tsarism, etc. It's crazy how they can backwards argue themselves up into a world view where these strains of thought are in any way compatible.
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Eh, Putin is the messiah and he'll happily embody whatever historical atrocity you happen to be fond of.
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DangerousDan posted:Have actually considered writing a paper on the weird crossover between Tsarist-era nostalgia and Stalin-era nostalgia. It seems so bizarre to Western outsiders.. Why? It seems pretty straightforward to me. Tsarist Russia was a stronk authoritarian empire; Stalinist Russia was a stronk authoritarian empire; people who want a stronk authoritarian empire are nostalgic for when it was so. The differences in ideology between monarchy and soviet communism take second place, what matters is nationalism, strenkth and authoritarianism.
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DangerousDan posted:Have actually considered writing a paper on the weird crossover between Tsarist-era nostalgia and Stalin-era nostalgia. It seems so bizarre to Western outsiders.. simultaneously fetishising Cromwell's Protectorate and Charles the first's bumbling absolutism? Combining American patriotism with Confederate flags?
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Couldn't make this poo poo up if I tried. What I don't think they mentioned - they staged the whole thing on the anniversary of occupation by Soviets, probably in order to make some kind of connection. Which is kinda funny given that a lot of the anti-immigrant sentiment is firmly based on Russian propaganda... anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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DangerousDan posted:Have actually considered writing a paper on the weird crossover between Tsarist-era nostalgia and Stalin-era nostalgia. It seems so bizarre to Western outsiders.. simultaneously fetishising Cromwell's Protectorate and Charles the first's bumbling absolutism? It makes a lot more sense when you consider the fact that Stalin actually backed off his anti-religious campaign during the WW2 and allowed the partial rehabilitation of some groups such as Cossacks. Even relatively minor things from our perspective (like bringing back St.George Ribbons) mattered quite a bit from a symbolic perspective at that point. Furthermore, Stalin began pushing Russian language and culture much more than Lenin did (who had favored far more linguistic and cultural autonomy for ethnic minorities). If you look at Stalin through simply the frame of hard right/far-right Russian nationalism there is plenty to find acceptable including the brutality he inflicted. From a Western perspective, he as bad or worse than Hitler, from a Russian nationalist perspective he was the savior of the nation that defeated both Russia's internal and external enemies and "returned" Russian language and culture to its rightful place. It also indicates how much revanchism is at the heart of present-day Russian nationalism considering how much present-day Russian nationalism focuses on territorial extent of the Russian Empire at its height as well as the amount of influence the USSR had after the Second World War. It is also brings up some of the present complications of Russian politics, especially the connection between United Russia and a syncretic form of Russian nationalism (that relies both Tsarist and Soviet callbacks). To Russians it doesn't matter as much formally if something is communist, monarchist or capitalist but how it relates to Russia's history. Someone being "pro-monarchist" and "pro-Stalinist" really means they are a right-wing nationalist that is cherry picking "when Russia was great." Ardennes fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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This kind of stunt is a good way to get yourself killed. E.g.:quote:Their shouts of "Allahu Akbar" from an army truck caused one local restaurant owner to pull out his shotgun Also I'm always amused by those people who believe pigs to repel Muslims in the same way garlic repels vampires. quote:Tomio Okamura, an MP who heads opposition movement Dawn of Direct Democracy, told people to walk pigs near mosques as an "instruction for the protection against Islam" in a Facebook post last year. (Also, I found the name not very Czech-sounding and looked him up. You'd think someone who got bullied presumably for being foreign would be a bit more tolerant...)
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:I would say the incompetence detailed in the article was ridiculous, but maybe the FSB actually likes people to know that it's them. cargo cult fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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Cat Mattress posted:(Also, I found the name not very Czech-sounding and looked him up. You'd think someone who got bullied presumably for being foreign would be a bit more tolerant...) Still, no one seems to mind that the rallies against the absolute evil that is economic immigrants are actually led by one.
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Young Freud posted:Not a coincidence. Manafort and Flynn are actually just two Putin-connected advisers, you still have Carter Page as well, who is connected through his petroleum links to the oligarchs. Also another Donbass cheerleader.
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The staged anti-islam public farce in Prague just got even more absurd, if you can believe that: the movement responsible the whole thing claims that they were approached and bothered by a muslim that "didn't know whether to join in shouting Allah akbar or the opposite" (whatever that means) - turns out the man in question's name is Aaron Günsberger. And he runs a kosher restaurant. The reason why they considered him a muslim? He has a beard.
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Ardennes posted:It makes a lot more sense when you consider the fact that Stalin actually backed off his anti-religious campaign during the WW2 and allowed the partial rehabilitation of some groups such as Cossacks. Even relatively minor things from our perspective (like bringing back St.George Ribbons) mattered quite a bit from a symbolic perspective at that point. Furthermore, Stalin began pushing Russian language and culture much more than Lenin did (who had favored far more linguistic and cultural autonomy for ethnic minorities). If you look at Stalin through simply the frame of hard right/far-right Russian nationalism there is plenty to find acceptable including the brutality he inflicted. From a Western perspective, he as bad or worse than Hitler, from a Russian nationalist perspective he was the savior of the nation that defeated both Russia's internal and external enemies and "returned" Russian language and culture to its rightful place. I understand this - he was "the great Russian chauvinist", etc. Nonetheless the quasi-rehabilitation of the Church & appeals to nationalism during WW2 were political contingencies rather than an ideological turn. Although the heights of paranoia during the yezhovshchina weren't reached after the war ended, coded comments made by Solzhenitsyn were enough to get the man sent off for 're-education'. I understand that fringe / nationalist figures will do all they can to cherry pick history in order to fit their world-view, but this Czarist Stalinism seems a particularly egregious example of weird history. There's been a consistent movement (in the west and in Russia) to 'de-ideologisize' Stalin, to paint him simply as an authoritarian brute, a power-hungry madman. I don't personally buy this line - I think that everything he did was more or less guided by an (admittedly warped) ideological imperative. See: Socialist Realism, the Caucuses banditry period, etc. This is why the whole thing is crazy and masochistic. If someone in '47 had openly called for a Czarist restoration, while admittedly praising the Great Leader, they'd have ended up floating in the loving Neva. Hindsight does crazy things to analysis, leads us down all sorts of bizarre paths of justification. It is, at its core, an insanity. Wishing repression upon oneself - I'm sure Freudian hacks could make reams of lovely arguments about this complex. It's the same thing when you see the Azov Battalion doing Nazi salutes and posing with Swastikas. It's like - dude do you not realize what Hitler thought of Slavs lol.
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anilEhilated posted:The staged anti-islam public farce in Prague just got even more absurd, if you can believe that: the movement responsible the whole thing claims that they were approached and bothered by a muslim that "didn't know whether to join in shouting Allah akbar or the opposite" (whatever that means) - turns out the man in question's name is Aaron Günsberger. And he runs a kosher restaurant. I don't see how the perpetrators could have just left without being arrested for public endangerment or something. What they did is the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theatre. Yet according to the officials, the event was sanctioned because there was no grounds for banning it. What?
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DangerousDan posted:I understand this - he was "the great Russian chauvinist", etc. Nonetheless the quasi-rehabilitation of the Church & appeals to nationalism during WW2 were political contingencies rather than an ideological turn. Although the heights of paranoia during the yezhovshchina weren't reached after the war ended, coded comments made by Solzhenitsyn were enough to get the man sent off for 're-education'. I understand that fringe / nationalist figures will do all they can to cherry pick history in order to fit their world-view, but this Czarist Stalinism seems a particularly egregious example of weird history. There's been a consistent movement (in the west and in Russia) to 'de-ideologisize' Stalin, to paint him simply as an authoritarian brute, a power-hungry madman. I don't personally buy this line - I think that everything he did was more or less guided by an (admittedly warped) ideological imperative. See: Socialist Realism, the Caucuses banditry period, etc. The issue for Russian Nationalists is there is no way to forget or write off the Soviet period completely especially since the Soviets were once a super-power. Elevating Stalin is a way of co-opting that history while ignoring most of the ideological baggage. As for the insanity part, nationalism especially revanchist nationalism is all about creating a narrative of the past, one that often is both a historical and emotionally bound. As for everything Stalin did being entirely ideologically bound, that isn't true. I mean look at everything that happened as far as Soviet foreign policy from the mid-1930s to 1946 and how many times it shifted depended of realpolitik. If anything Stalin flip-flopped constantly. Russian nationalists just take they want out of him and ignore everything else.
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anilEhilated posted:Couldn't make this poo poo up if I tried. What I don't think they mentioned - they staged the whole thing on the anniversary of occupation by Soviets, probably in order to make some kind of connection. quote:"Until a few Muslims started shouting aggressively and pushing toward the performers, everything was going very peacefully," Mr Konvicka wrote on his Facebook page." "up until I put my dick into a blender and pressed the power button, everything was totally fine. I dunno what happened  "lmao, this article really made my day. you can get eastern Europe out of eastern Europe, but you can never get the eastern Europe out of eastern Europe. stay classy, eastern Europe.
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