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super macho dude posted:really cool gee-tar! the origins of the drifter
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Here's a hot take from the WO boardquote:Rollins is a reckless wrestler. The flying knee he hit on Cena - at full force, literally pulling Cena's head to his knee flying through the air - how could anyone expect that to have gone well?
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He's completely correct
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Chris James 2 posted:He's completely correct
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Man who does crossfit injures self and others isn't a huge stretch.
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the only stupid opinion about seth rollins being too dangeous is that it probably feels good to be injured when he does harmful strikes and throws. That sounds very stupid because it is nearly impossible to feel good if trhat happened
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Seth Rollins: dumb as gently caress
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At least Sting had the professionalism to go on a podcast and specifically not blame Seth Rollins.
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I'm sure Seth gave Sting spinal stenosis, and it wasn't a pre-existing injury from 30 years of bumps RIP Sting, just entering his prime
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Seth actually rules.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:I'm sure Seth gave Sting spinal stenosis, and it wasn't a pre-existing injury from 30 years of bumps oh, I have no doubt about that. I'm still mad Jerry Lawler had the temerity to tell everyone who listened that Dolph's elbow drops caused his heart attack. Because it certainly wasn't the 3 whattaburgers and strawberry shake he used to wash down his crushing realization he's a fuckin lecherous tool.
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coconono posted:oh, I have no doubt about that. I'm still mad Jerry Lawler had the temerity to tell everyone who listened that Dolph's elbow drops caused his heart attack. Because it certainly wasn't the 3 whattaburgers and strawberry shake he used to wash down his crushing realization he's a fuckin lecherous tool. Uhh, maybe you don't realize that those were shoot elbow drops from Dolph
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Marquis de Pyro posted:Uhh, maybe you don't realize that those were shoot elbow drops from Dolph Then Jerry should have protected himself. He sat ringside through all those Dolph matches and he just then realized Dolph wasn't powdering those elbows?
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coconono posted:Then Jerry should have protected himself. He sat ringside through all those Dolph matches and he just then realized Dolph wasn't powdering those elbows? I have it on good authority that Dolph could take Conor McGregor in a fight, what could Jerry do against that?
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Marquis de Pyro posted:I have it on good authority that Dolph could take Conor McGregor in a fight, what could Jerry do against that? Punch him very hard. Like the time he knocked Axl Rotten stupid(er)
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when middlebrow sites write about wrestling dot png 
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Alain Post posted:when middlebrow sites write about wrestling dot png Yeah but her reviews are pretty great so I don't care. It's not even as though she's overanalysing or anything so I'm not sure why people were complaining.
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I'm waiting for the Mecca people to hear about the DELETE chant on Raw and start saying "SEE THAT'S PROOF EVERYONE WATCHES IMPACT" instead of just that one match.
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DrVenkman posted:Yeah but her reviews are pretty great so I don't care. It's not even as though she's overanalysing or anything so I'm not sure why people were complaining. it's not about overanalysis or anything like that, wrestling is a worked sport and trying to write about it as a "storytelling medium" in a way that sidelines the actual matches shows a lack of understanding of the medium itself
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Alain Post posted:it's not about overanalysis or anything like that, wrestling is a worked sport and trying to write about it as a "storytelling medium" in a way that sidelines the actual matches shows a lack of understanding of the medium itself to be fair, when's the last time the WWE really told a great story simply through a match instead of just going straight through the formula
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ParanoidInc posted:to be fair, when's the last time the WWE really told a great story simply through a match instead of just going straight through the formula I want to say it happened more recently than the Dolph/Del Rio world title double turn but I'm probably being generous with that assumption That was a great story though
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Alain Post posted:it's not about overanalysis or anything like that, wrestling is a worked sport and trying to write about it as a "storytelling medium" in a way that sidelines the actual matches shows a lack of understanding of the medium itself There are like a hundred people doing the match by match breakdown. I think it's good to have a broader overview of what an episode is doing.
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Alain Post posted:it's not about overanalysis or anything like that, wrestling is a worked sport and trying to write about it as a "storytelling medium" in a way that sidelines the actual matches shows a lack of understanding of the medium itself They still cover the match, just not blow by blow, and WWE is increasingly using the show surrounding matches to tell their story rather than the matches themselves. Given the amount of time WWE give to non-matches then it's fair to review it as a TV show.
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DrVenkman posted:They still cover the match, just not blow by blow, and WWE is increasingly using the show surrounding matches to tell their story rather than the matches themselves. Given the amount of time WWE give to non-matches then it's fair to review it as a TV show. Yeah but this is kind of buying into WWE's hosed-up view of wrestling, one which honestly isn't that far removed from Vince Russo poo poo (I mean, WWE doesn't really abuse worked shoots, but still)
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There should be a Godwin's Law but for Vince Russo
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St Evan Echoes posted:There should be a Godwin's Law but for Vince Russo Godwinn's law. 
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Alain Post posted:Yeah but this is kind of buying into WWE's hosed-up view of wrestling, one which honestly isn't that far removed from Vince Russo poo poo (I mean, WWE doesn't really abuse worked shoots, but still) No more than, say, Lucha Underground's is. At heart wrestling uses a combination of matches and angles to tell stories and draw in audiences. WWE's problem is not and has never been that it has story segments. It's a problem when the writing for those segments is bad.
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WWE's unique(in terms of pro wrestling) that they really eschew the competitive aspect of the artform for the storytelling. Match results only matter in the grand narrative. Very rarely does an act in the match actually matter. That's also where the criticism that WWE's writing is terrible comes from.
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coconono posted:WWE's unique(in terms of pro wrestling) that they really eschew the competitive aspect of the artform for the storytelling. Match results only matter in the grand narrative. Very rarely does an act in the match actually matter. That's also where the criticism that WWE's writing is terrible comes from. They are also unique in that the grand narrative also doesn't matter.
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The_Rob posted:They are also unique in that the grand narrative also doesn't matter. not as long as TNA or ROH still exist
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Right, essentially WWE in their dedication to be 'Sports Entertainment' have created a TV show with characters and storylines that also happen to include fighting. It's not cheating to review them in accordance with how they're trying to present themselves (Which makes it all the more frustrating when they do get it right, like Smackdown recently).
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DrVenkman posted:Right, essentially WWE in their dedication to be 'Sports Entertainment' have created a TV show with characters and storylines that also happen to include fighting. It's not cheating to review them in accordance with how they're trying to present themselves (Which makes it all the more frustrating when they do get it right, like Smackdown recently). Which is why I feel like there's a decent amount of people like me who don't watch any of the story or promo segments (unless I hear they're awesome) and just search out specific matches cause they seem like they have their own totally seperate storylines. Or just watch the awesome match promos they put together. You can watch all the Zayn-Owens matches and get basically the entire background from them without a single backstage segment or whatever
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peter kaasa seems like a super chill dude. wonder if he's going to have to scrub this if he wants a chance at better bookings/more dg tours. https://twitter.com/roundhousekiss/status/769297440201646080
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:peter kaasa seems like a super chill dude. wonder if he's going to have to scrub this if he wants a chance at better bookings/more dg tours. I'm hoping he just gets hosed.
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What an idiot, doesn't he know intergender matches are cool and good now? Someone link him some Lucha Underground
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I can kinda see how a transwoman might have an advantage over cis women in an MMA fight if we're talking purely physical attributes, but the domestic violence comparison pretty much obscures anything he's trying to say there. Too bad, Kaasa's crazy good in the ring. I wonder what he thinks of Yosuke Santa Maria since they're both in DG.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:What an idiot, doesn't he know intergender matches are cool and good now? Someone link him some Lucha Underground The match wasn't intergender tho
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sticklefifer posted:I can kinda see how a transwoman might have an advantage over cis women in an MMA fight if we're talking purely physical attributes, but the domestic violence comparison pretty much obscures anything he's trying to say there. Too bad, Kaasa's crazy good in the ring. I wonder what he thinks of Yosuke Santa Maria since they're both in DG. I know the Olympic standard is transwomen can compete as women so long as they've been on hormones for a certain amount of time- after a while their muscle production slows and they don't have any advantage.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I know the Olympic standard is transwomen can compete as women so long as they've been on hormones for a certain amount of time- after a while their muscle production slows and they don't have any advantage. Yeah, at that stage the only advantage Fox has is MAYBE reach, and that's just part of the MMA game.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I know the Olympic standard is transwomen can compete as women so long as they've been on hormones for a certain amount of time- after a while their muscle production slows and they don't have any advantage. Well that's entirely reasonable then. Fact is if it's early in transition they WOULD have an advantage, but I'm sure there's a cutoff point of some sort. Honest, non-trolling question: would time of transition matter? In my admittedly limited exposure, transwomen who transition later in life tend to have a...bumpier transition (which makes sense, the body is more malleable the younger it is, see also skin bouncing back after big weight loss, women losing baby weight, whatever). Does that factor in here?
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