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Nckdictator posted:Some people get way into Nazi Germany for their own good. To quote some reply's from a supposed "Historical-research" message board I found. These " clean werhmacht" wehraboos are the loving worst. I've never met a single one who wasn't a giant creep who was coincidentally a " race realist". Just admit you're a racist who gets off on painting little nazi models and airplanes.
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Nckdictator posted:Some people get way into Nazi Germany for their own good. To quote some reply's from a supposed "Historical-research" message board I found. Mods rename me Well-Developed Lolita tia
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Nckdictator posted:Some people get way into Nazi Germany for their own good. To quote some reply's from a supposed "Historical-research" message board I found. holy poo poo.  those last loving 3 are scary as gently caress. what the gently caress is wrong with people. He loving gutted girls as he raped them. GUTTTED AND RAPED. he had nurse raped and roasted alive with flamethrowers. had kids killed in mass. but its ok because the women/all of them were all commie whores or something. i honestly hope these people loving die horribly.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:These " clean werhmacht" wehraboos are the loving worst. I've never met a single one who wasn't a giant creep who was coincidentally a " race realist". Just admit you're a racist who gets off on painting little nazi models and airplanes. agreed, but i could at least understand it (africa korp i guess was probably the "cleanest"). but defending and excusing the behvarior of Dirlewanger is hosed up as all hell. it doesnt even help your naziboo ideals.
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I'm a huge metalhead so obviously I've read all the Mayhem drama before, but I'd never even heard that NME story before. Thanks for sharing! On a similar note, these two bands might be of interest to the thread, but purely for musical reasons. -Remember how earlier in the thread it was a running joke that every serial killer has a metal song dedicated to them? Church of Misery has done one for just about every killer in the book. Despite playing the typically non-evil subgenre of stoner metal, this Japanese group writes exclusively about serial killers, both famous and obscure. All set to the grooviest riffs in the world. https://youtu.be/aRm_JThG35g -If you're fascinated by Dahmer, check out Chicago death/grind band Macabre, who did a concept album that tells his life story (it's called Dahmer, of course). They clearly had fun with it, but also did their research. https://youtube.com/watch?v=HxLaxQyBGjE&autoplay=1 Henchman of Santa has a new favorite as of 05:57 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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There used to be a little girl Nazi band, though I think they've renounced Nazism as they've gotten older.
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WickedHate posted:There used to be a little girl Nazi band, though I think they've renounced Nazism as they've gotten older. Apparently they've toned the whole Nazi thing way down, and become stoners. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2165342/Prussian-Blue-twins-Lynx-Lamb-Marijuana-changed-Nazis-peace-loving-hippies.html
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When you're named Lynx and Lamb, the only paths in your life are hippie or militant white nationalist.
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This may not completely fit in with this thread, but tonight I came across a sort of unnerving thing, at least to me. I was half-assedly doing some genealogy searches earlier, and when I typed my paternal grandfather's name in, I came across what looked like engagement and wedding announcements for my dad... but my mom wasn't the bride, and this wedding occurred seven years before theirs did. Signed up for a trial of newspapers.com to read the article, and yep, it's him. Our last name is really unusual, and there was absolutely no mistaking that it was him... it was the California town I was born in years later, my grandparents are mentioned in the article, his alma mater is correct, and he's rocking the sweet Jewfro he had back then. Only thing is, I had absolutely no idea he'd been married before. Neither he or my mom ever mentioned it. No judgment or anything, of course, people get divorced. My family's always been pretty open, though, and I'm not sure why he'd keep it a secret. It's totally none of my business, but I'm incredibly curious and don't know how to bring it up, or if I even should. I tried researching further, but her name is super common and I'm getting nowhere. I realize this is incredibly dull compared to a lot of the content itt, but this is sort of blowing my mind a little. Not what I expected to come across this Sunday evening, at any rate.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:jesus christ he looks like loving ghoul. i remember reading some hosed story about how some of his soldiers(maybe him as well) raped a girl and gutted her with a bayonet at the same time and she was only like 13 or something. i mean he led a penal battalion of brutal loving monsterts. its like a nazi dirty dozen if they were all that rapist played by telly savalis. he was in charge of this number right here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wola_massacre this poo poo made even the standard SS sick. i am glad he died horribly. It's weird to me how the Nazis were all big about how they were the master race but they looked like a bunch of deformed hobgoblins. Like what, was the master race the mole people?
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BattleMaster posted:It's weird to me how the Nazis were all big about how they were the master race but they looked like a bunch of deformed hobgoblins. Like what, was the master race the mole people? Once, the Nazis championed a newborn as an example of pure Aryan grace and beauty. She was, of course, Jewish. Then this happened again when they got a particularly handsome blonde hair blue eyed Jewish soldier.
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Crow Jane posted:I tried researching further, but her name is super common and I'm getting nowhere. Find a library with an ancestry.com subscription and search both names. Ancestry's pretty good at narrowing focus with just a name and a place. These kinds of genealogy puzzles fascinate me. (I just spent a weekend chasing dead ancestors in libraries and graveyards.)
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BattleMaster posted:It's weird to me how the Nazis were all big about how they were the master race but they looked like a bunch of deformed hobgoblins. Like what, was the master race the mole people? Someone post that comic. You know the one.
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Mak0rz posted:Someone post that comic. You know the one. 
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We all know what the Aryan Superman, Varg Vikernes, would do. I'm still working on writing up the next part of the story, so here's an excerpt: Satanic panic was in full swing in America, the fall of the Soviet Union had many Europeans on edge, and perfectly well-adjusted, normal Norwegians like Varg Vikernes were stockpiling ammunition and explosives in preparation for the upcoming American invasion of Norway. I believe he acknowledged, in retrospect, that he might have overreacted a bit. So, what did he do when McDonalds came to Oslo? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRfi7add7P0
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Crow Jane posted:This may not completely fit in with this thread, but tonight I came across a sort of unnerving thing, at least to me. I was half-assedly doing some genealogy searches earlier, and when I typed my paternal grandfather's name in, I came across what looked like engagement and wedding announcements for my dad... but my mom wasn't the bride, and this wedding occurred seven years before theirs did. Signed up for a trial of newspapers.com to read the article, and yep, it's him. Our last name is really unusual, and there was absolutely no mistaking that it was him... it was the California town I was born in years later, my grandparents are mentioned in the article, his alma mater is correct, and he's rocking the sweet Jewfro he had back then. Only thing is, I had absolutely no idea he'd been married before. Neither he or my mom ever mentioned it. Could you ask your mum? Is there anyone in the family who might help? Do you know any of your dad's old friends? Let us know how it works out. It is kind of unnerving to find out your family history is a lot odder than you expected. Has anyone else in this thread discovered things about their family histories that they would rather have not known about? Anyone done an ancestry search and discovered a criminal?
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Could you ask your mum? Is there anyone in the family who might help? Do you know any of your dad's old friends? Let us know how it works out. It is kind of unnerving to find out your family history is a lot odder than you expected. I learned that my grandmother was potentially a black-widow, as she became moderately wealthy after marrying about 7(?) dudes with moderately good salaries, who died within a five year window. My mother's father is the only one that survived beyond divorce from her, and he had scars on his chest from her attacking him with a box-cutter. She also would poison strays (according to HER father, before he passed), but before we knew this, we left our dog with her when she offered to take give him a forever home. My mother had two long term dogs with her when she was a kid, and thought for sure Coco would be in good hands; he died less than a month later, with the story changing from "ran away" to "hit by car" to "found under the house." Now, she's a single dog-whistle racist and openly homophobic and every year she makes amends with my lesbian mother only to later bemoan how she won't be able to spend eternity with her daughter because she's an unrepentant sinner. Some of the stories my mother and her sister tell are like some straight up Mommy Dearest poo poo, with a dash of RAHOWA forced camping trips in NorCal. I didn't understand all of this as a kid and how my mother kept giving her chances to be changed, but seriously, witnessing an abusive relationship between your grandparents and parents is really tragic, if not unsettling, when you consider everyone else has a bevy of sweet nana stories to share. Wasabi the J has a new favorite as of 10:01 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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Zodijackylite posted:We all know what the Aryan Superman, Varg Vikernes, would do. I'm still working on writing up the next part of the story, so here's an excerpt: Nothing Dionysus wouldn't grant forgiveness for, I'm sure.
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Glad to have something to contribute to this thread I hadn't seen before - the Order of the Solar Temple, a Swiss/French/Quebecois cult based around past lives, Knights Templar, the Antichrist, and (of course) Sirius.Wikipedia posted:The Order of the Solar Temple, also known as Ordre du Temple Solaire (OTS) in French and the International Chivalric Organization of the Solar Tradition or simply as The Solar Temple, is a secret society that claims to be based upon the ideals of the Knights Templar. OTS was started by Joseph Di Mambro and Luc Jouret in 1984 in Geneva as l'Ordre International Chevaleresque de Tradition Solaire (OICTS) and later renamed Ordre du Temple Solaire. Bonus creepy video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThUBxnaMwCo
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WickedHate posted:There used to be a little girl Nazi band, though I think they've renounced Nazism as they've gotten older. In Louis Theroux's documentary on Neo-Nazi's, the twins and their mother are featured (the documentary opens with their mother making a swastika on the floor with tape and the twins dance around it). Needless to say the mother and her father are whacko and I'm glad the girls got out of that lifestyle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShFz7oHlms
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Glad to have something to contribute to this thread I hadn't seen before - the Order of the Solar Temple, a Swiss/French/Quebecois cult based around past lives, Knights Templar, the Antichrist, and (of course) Sirius. Good full documentary here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2KrCctV8V0 I was going to do an effort post on this a while back but forgot. Apparently there was police involvement (cops being members) and a a lot of the "suicides" were from a police handgun. It seems it was more like a Masonic, wife-swapping sort of deal (with harvesting of wealthy members' assets) which turned dark. there was definitely some sort of cover-up as there was no proper investigation. "Suicide" closes a lot of lines of inquiry. Conveniently. A number of cults which suffered outbreaks of suicide were often partly murder (see Jonestown).
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Has anyone else in this thread discovered things about their family histories that they would rather have not known about? Anyone done an ancestry search and discovered a criminal? Geneology is a fun little hobby for this reason. My mom got into geneology and tracking the family tree, but definitely discovered a lot she didn't expect; some fun examples include first-cousin marriages (one of them as recent as, I believe, my great-great grandparents), and the fact that much of the tree is actually uncertain, because someone liked the family so much that he renounced his own family, adopted the family surname, and became the only surviving 'heir' of that generation. His original name is thought to be known, but for unsurprising reasons the family tree is very hazy before him on that side.
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Glad to have something to contribute to this thread I hadn't seen before - the Order of the Solar Temple, a Swiss/French/Quebecois cult based around past lives, Knights Templar, the Antichrist, and (of course) Sirius. If you cross this with the black metal talk from the last page you get this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_Black_Light
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Has anyone else in this thread discovered things about their family histories that they would rather have not known about? Anyone done an ancestry search and discovered a criminal? Some stories like that are in this thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748217
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Could you ask your mum? Is there anyone in the family who might help? Do you know any of your dad's old friends? Let us know how it works out. It is kind of unnerving to find out your family history is a lot odder than you expected. I'm not certain my mom knows, and I'm hesitant to bring it up with her or my dad in case she doesn't. I know they were both seeing other people when they got together, but I assumed they were just boyfriends/girlfriends. If he left his wife for her (they got married in part because my mom was pregnant with me), that might go some ways towards explaining why my grandma on that side was always hostile towards my mom. My godfather might be a safer bet, but I haven't talked to him in years and I'm pretty sure he'd tell my dad if I contacted him out of the blue. Other than that, no. His family were fairly recent immigrants; there weren't a ton of them in this country to begin with and almost anyone who would've known is dead now. Plus my folks and I moved clear across the country when I was a toddler, so I don't really know any of their old friends. The whole thing feels sneaky as hell, but I can't let it rest. It's not that I necessarily think anything sketchy is going on, but it seems like there must be a reason for the secrecy. I think I'm going to sign up for an ancestry.com trial when I get home from work and see what I can find. May as well go full internet detective, I guess. Wish me luck. Weirdest thing is, his first wife and my mom look like they could be sisters. He's clearly always had a thing for the shiksas 
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El Estrago Bonito posted:If you cross this with the black metal talk from the last page you get this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_Black_Light quote:During their investigations, the police interrogated former members of the MLO, who described the organisation and narrated the occult ceremonies they had attended. Rituals included meditation, invocations of demons and animal sacrifices – cats, which were bought through classified ads. During the weeks that preceded the murder of Josef ben Meddour, Vlad had been more and more extremist in his speech, and the idea of performing human sacrifices, followed by a mass suicide, was discussed at length. During a meeting at Nödtveidt's place, a list of possible victims was made. It included a former follower who had defected, band members from Dissection, and even Nödtveidt's girlfriend. ETA: Crow Jane, your dad has a thing for the shiksas? I'm guessing that previous marriages have nothing to do with why your grandma didn't like your mom.
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Nah, he's never been a practicing Jew, just a partially ethnic one, and my grandma's family was Christian. Previous marriages aside, she had beef with the fact my mom's Polish, because old people's racism is fairly all-encompassing Anyway, I think his paternal grandparents focused pretty hard on assimilation once they came to the US. The fact that my short, swarthy dad married two tall blonde ladies might play into that somewhat, at least subconsciously.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Has anyone else in this thread discovered things about their family histories that they would rather have not known about? Anyone done an ancestry search and discovered a criminal? I recently learned that my Great Grandfather had the family franchise operation going on while he was a travelling salesman. My dad was on the "legit" side and there was a slightly less legit operation elsewhere. My dad learned recently too and found it amusing.
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Crow Jane posted:I'm not certain my mom knows, and I'm hesitant to bring it up with her or my dad in case she doesn't. I know they were both seeing other people when they got together, but I assumed they were just boyfriends/girlfriends. If he left his wife for her (they got married in part because my mom was pregnant with me), that might go some ways towards explaining why my grandma on that side was always hostile towards my mom. My godfather might be a safer bet, but I haven't talked to him in years and I'm pretty sure he'd tell my dad if I contacted him out of the blue. Other than that, no. His family were fairly recent immigrants; there weren't a ton of them in this country to begin with and almost anyone who would've known is dead now. Plus my folks and I moved clear across the country when I was a toddler, so I don't really know any of their old friends. You could do a public records search in the city where the marriage happened to see if there is a divorce record. Also maybe try obituaries that mention your dad's name along with hers.
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Crow Jane posted:I'm not certain my mom knows, and I'm hesitant to bring it up with her or my dad in case she doesn't. I know they were both seeing other people when they got together, but I assumed they were just boyfriends/girlfriends. Back in the day you basically had to marry to be boyfriends/girlfriends. It might not be a big deal. My dad married a girl in the 60's because they wanted to go to the movies (her dad was a strict Christian). Now for some content. Surprisingly good writing for a buzzfeed article, and one of the more disturbing stories about disability I've read. creepy family posted:"Dee Dee was 48 years old, originally from Louisiana. She was a large, affable-looking person, which she reinforced by dressing in bright, cheerful colors. She had curly brown hair she liked to hold back with ribbons. People who knew her remember her as generous with her time and, when she could be, generous with money. She could make friends quickly and inspire deep devotion. She did not have a job, but instead served as a full-time caretaker for Gypsy Rose, her teenage daughter. Sounds like a model mother of a disabled child, right? Keep reading. https://www.buzzfeed.com/michellede...jx7#.ib8aDYN7qx lizard_phunk has a new favorite as of 18:15 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-brewery_syndromequote:Auto-brewery syndrome, also known as gut fermentation syndrome, is a rare medical condition in which intoxicating quantities of ethanol are produced through endogenous fermentation within the digestive system.[1][2] One gastrointestinal organism, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, a type of yeast, has been identified as a pathogen for this condition. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...d764f7b0929ec82 quote:IMAGINE being able to brew beer in your stomach without having a drop of alcohol. That may sound like heaven to some, but in fact, it’s a living nightmare.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Anyone done an ancestry search and discovered a criminal? I don't need to do an ancestry search to find the criminals in my family, a lot of them are still kicking it/in living memory: A quick break down of stuff from my hosed up family: - Grand dad (Who was a member of several occult fraternities in the UK and also quite high up in the Masonic Order) got grandma institutionalised in a Seventh Day Adventist run facility for about six months. That twisted gently caress died painfully and alone of a blood disorder and that continues to make me happy. - Relatives throughout my family (and extended family) (not going to say who or what they did because SoL lol) did a handful of big black market deals to help get their families set up in life (finance houses, private school, etc) - Narrative on the other side of my family is that grand dad was killed as a pedestrian involved in an MVA. If the bus that hit him was systemic organ failure from being a massive alcoholic then yes he died in the gutter with tyre tracks on his face. - Great Great Grandad worked as a headshrinker during WW1, so that shell shocked troops could be returned to the trenches faster. That might not technically be criminal but I consider him to be a dog oval office for doing it. There's plenty more I could list out but frankly I'm not proud of my family background or their past.
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When my father's brother died a few years ago, I went through old family documents and also took possession of an autobiography he (my uncle) had written. For context, he was born in 1937 in what is now Poland. The marriage certificate of his parents - my grandparents - was one of the documents in the stash I went through. It had some details on it about both bride and groom being certified "racially clean" by the German government. That was creepy just by itself. Similarly, there was a death certificate for a 1 year old boy, and another for a 2 year old - both brothers of my father's. In the weeks after reading those documents, I also read the autobiography. My grandparents got married in Danzig in the 1936 and started having children. He was a brick layer. Before too long, he was drafted into the German military. For the first few years of the war, he got to have regular visits home. After early 1945, he was taken prisoner by the soviets somewhere along the Eastern Front. He would not return home until 1949. Meanwhile, my grandmother awaited some kind of rescue from the advancing Russians. More and more refugees arrived and food got scarcer. My uncle wrote about going on regular food runs trying to find anything to eat in abandoned houses and cellars. His 1-year old brother died of hunger on April 6, 1945. His 2-year old brother followed him on September 29, 1945. Eventually they fled the city on a nearly 300 mile foot trek westward, ahead of the advancing Russians. They settled near the Western border of what would become East Germany. My grandfather returned from Russian Kriegsgefangenschaft in 1949. A few years later, he left for West Germany and started a new family. My grandmother, undeterred and with a very much "gently caress you" attitude, never remarried. Instead, she became the mayor of the town she was living in and was said to be a pretty awesome person. Unfortunately, I never got to know her - she died of cancer in the late 60's. Anyways, it was and continues to be an unnerving story for me because it brings history right into my face. TotalLossBrain has a new favorite as of 05:11 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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As a teenager, I stumbled across some of my mom's old documents while looking for something in the garage. They had a last name that wasn't our family name or our maiden name, so I asked her about it. It turns out that she was briefly married before meeting my dad. That's also when I found out that that marriage ended because of a miscarriage.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Could you ask your mum? Is there anyone in the family who might help? Do you know any of your dad's old friends? Let us know how it works out. It is kind of unnerving to find out your family history is a lot odder than you expected. I am pretty closely related to Tonya Harding if that counts.
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TotalLossBrain posted:When my father's brother died a few years ago, I went through old family documents and also took possession of an autobiography he (my uncle) had written. I have something similar that I posted about in the family secrets e/n thread yesterday. It was a little black book that acted as a kind of family tree, filled out by my grandfather while he was living in Poland to prove neither he nor my grandmother were Jewish or whatever. Each page had a rubber stamped Nazi eagle on it. Just holding it and knowing some dick in the third reich had his grubby Nazi hands all over it was pretty messed up.
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my great uncle, a (minor) local politician, was tied up at gunpoint, tasered by hired goons, and shoved into his jacuzzi face first followed by a plugged in tv set. this was on the 80s when, i guess, that could kill you. hired goons are still in jail. uncle was also possibly a bootlegger since a distant relatives vineyard biography implicates him in the act.
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Crow Jane posted:This may not completely fit in with this thread, but tonight I came across a sort of unnerving thing, at least to me. I was half-assedly doing some genealogy searches earlier, and when I typed my paternal grandfather's name in, I came across what looked like engagement and wedding announcements for my dad... but my mom wasn't the bride, and this wedding occurred seven years before theirs did. Signed up for a trial of newspapers.com to read the article, and yep, it's him. Our last name is really unusual, and there was absolutely no mistaking that it was him... it was the California town I was born in years later, my grandparents are mentioned in the article, his alma mater is correct, and he's rocking the sweet Jewfro he had back then. Only thing is, I had absolutely no idea he'd been married before. Neither he or my mom ever mentioned it. I found this out about my dad when I was being put in a psych ward at 16. Either ask your mom or just research yourself imo. I asked my dad like a month later and it turns out he divorced his first wife because they had a child that died at the age of 2. Kind of a derail but that's my story Edit: this has stuck with me cause I attempted suicide literally like, three hours before I learned Dad had been married Twerkteam Pizza has a new favorite as of 07:26 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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My grandmother's great uncle owned a tavern/boarding house around the turn of the century. One of his patron's had been letting a friend sleep on the couch without paying anything. Well great-great-great-Uncle wasn't having a bar of this. He confronted his errant boarder while he was drinking at the bar, and told him that his friend had to pay up or get out. Things were getting heated, and a fight was obviously about to begin. Great-great-great-Uncle uttered the phrase "I am the strongest in Auckland, and I fear no man." In the ensuing brawl, he was hit in the head with a bottle of whisky and died some days later. I guess that's not really unnerving, but it's my favourite story I have about my family.
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The Endbringer posted:I have something similar that I posted about in the family secrets e/n thread yesterday. It was a little black book that acted as a kind of family tree, filled out by my grandfather while he was living in Poland to prove neither he nor my grandmother were Jewish or whatever. Each page had a rubber stamped Nazi eagle on it. Just holding it and knowing some dick in the third reich had his grubby Nazi hands all over it was pretty messed up. My great-Grandfather was really into that, so I have about three or four of those, all meticulously filled out, going back to the late 17th century. Pretty cool. Although asking Grandma about it she just casually mentioned that his sister (her aunt) killed herself along with her husband and their 16 year old daughter just before the Red Army marched into town. So I guess having a detailed family tree doesn't really feel all that hosed up in comparison.
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