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Like I would be defending this the exact same way if this poo poo happened this exact way to Brietbart or *insert lovely right wing site here*.
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predicto posted:I notice that all the people who don't think there is a problem here want to talk about how bad Gawker is/was, not the underlying problem of billionaires having the ability to silence media foes and chill any future investigation into their activities. What is the Mother jones situation?
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Just like the ACLU was in the right when they went to bat for Limbaugh against the feds, even though he's a poo poo, Thiel destroying gawker is awful.
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predicto posted:I notice that all the people who don't think there is a problem here want to talk about how bad Gawker is/was, not the underlying problem of billionaires having the ability to silence media foes and chill any future investigation into their activities. because billionaires have always had this ability, like that's part of being rich for some reason people are just now noticing hey having buckets of money lets you throw your weight around like an rear end in a top hat and this somehow started in 2014 apparently
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Aug 24, 2016 19:35
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Popular Thug Drink posted:because billionaires have always had this ability, like that's part of being rich Yeah, no poo poo, what's shocking is that people are saying that this is a good thing.
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Aug 24, 2016 19:39
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Flaggy posted:What is the Mother jones situation? Frank VanderSloot, a Republican megadonor, tried to sue them into oblivion for truthfully reporting that he supported anti-gay groups.
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Tl;dr: he didn't win, but he almost bankrupted mother jones. which is a long established and prominent organization, if not a wealthy one. god forbid you are small time. and then he established a slush fund for suing left wing media
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Aug 24, 2016 20:45
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MizPiz posted:Yeah, no poo poo, what's shocking is that people are saying that this is a good thing. Not that it's a good thing, but it isn't bad thing either. It's just a thing.
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Aug 24, 2016 20:57
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MizPiz posted:Yeah, no poo poo, what's shocking is that people are saying that this is a good thing. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. Not saying they should have been shut down, but neither should Gawker get off with nothing.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:22
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Antti posted:They purposefully structured the lawsuit so that Hogan didn't get as much in damages but Gawker's insurance didn't cover them, and they filed it in Florida just so that the damages have to be ponied up in escrow even though the case is in appeal. It's the lawsuit equivalent of a smart bomb. It wasn't about getting justice for Hogan but about destroying Gawker. The courts aren't run by computers where Hogan and Thiel took advantage of some kind of exploit in the code. There's a judge and jury who heard a case presented by lawyers for the defense and plaintiff. While I don't know if the jury was privy to the whole situation with Gawker's insurance, they definitely acted under the impression that such a hefty punishment would at least cripple the organization: remember they were so disgusted by Gawker that they actually asked if they could increase the judgment. It's obvious they didn't have Hogan's losses in mind, they were specifically looking to punish Gawker. Gawker didn't "make a mistake", their conduct in the Hogan case is what they were; the case was won on the specifics of the Hogan story but the court's decision to so readily award the huge sum was based on an unofficial referendum on whether an outfit such as Gawker should exist at all. Now whether this civil court case should have become that is a subject in itself, but the whole issue with Gawker has specifics to it that make me feel people are being hasty in their pearl-clutching.
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MizPiz posted:Yeah, no poo poo, what's shocking is that people are saying that this is a good thing. A dude had a sex tape blasted all around the internet because some retard thought 'washed up idiot who hit people with chairs said something about black people between bouts of pork fueled loving' was breaking news. Do you believe this is a valid thing to sue over, yes or no?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:A dude had a sex tape blasted all around the internet because some retard thought 'washed up idiot who hit people with chairs said something about black people between bouts of pork fueled loving' was breaking news. Do you believe this is a valid thing to sue over, yes or no? If by sex tape you mean a heavily cut down edit of a sex tape with nearly all the sex cut out by time and censoring (approximately 4 minutes out of a ~50 minute video). So yes there's no problem with what they actually put out.
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http://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farage-and-donald-trump-to-appear-on-stage-together-10550059 This should be good.
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Does it count as mudslinging, if you're just pointing out that someone else is covered in mud and is playing with other people who are also covered in it?
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The Milo headline reads are brilliant, especially when the guy gets to the word "human being" and just mentally shuts down. It's refreshing to see more "this is what normal non-interner people think of the alt-right" stuff out there. Sunshine really is a great disinfectant.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:34
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I never knew it was pronounced "bright-bart" I always pronounced it "Bree-it-bart"
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It's literally one letter removed from Brexitbart
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Chilichimp posted:It's literally one letter removed from Brexitbart "Let's tell the EU to eat our shorts!" - Brexitbart "Yes, eat all of our shirts!" - Boris
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Chilichimp posted:Does it count as mudslinging, if you're just pointing out that someone else is covered in mud and is playing with other people who are also covered in it? "They took it all out of context!!" Will likely be the most common excuse. It's how people scum always try to protect themselves from people pointing out their own actions.
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Geostomp posted:"They took it all out of context!!" Will likely be the most common excuse. It's how people scum always try to protect themselves from people pointing out their own actions. If I had a magic power, it would be for every time someone says "I was taken out of context" all the doors lock and they are forced to explain the context
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Aug 24, 2016 22:50
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Geostomp posted:"They took it all out of context!!" Will likely be the most common excuse. It's how people scum always try to protect themselves from people pointing out their own actions. A friend pointed out to me the staggering like:dislike ratio the video's already racked up. Like, I knew the alt-right/MRA/Gamergate/[other buzz term here] scene was full of hair-trigger easily offended pissbabies, but this is just hilarious. These are the words of your gods here people, don't get mad at the tone of the messenger, own them... Unless, maybe, you're starting to realize that they actually sound quite awful and offensive when repeated verbatim by incredulous normal people.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:56
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nine-gear crow posted:A friend pointed out to me the staggering like:dislike ratio the video's already racked up. The Alt-Right has a very weird belief that arbitrary domination of minor markers, such as like/dislike ratios and online polls is somehow representative of real world power
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Aug 24, 2016 22:58
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nine-gear crow posted:A friend pointed out to me the staggering like:dislike ratio the video's already racked up. I mean... those aren't "normal" people. They're paid actors in a political spot.
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nine-gear crow posted:A friend pointed out to me the staggering like:dislike ratio the video's already racked up. They think it's unfair because it doesn't make them look good. If they commercial picked the "right" headlines, surely the incredible truthiness and "race realism" of their gods would shine through!! Mel Mudkiper posted:The Alt-Right has a very weird belief that arbitrary domination of minor markers, such as like/dislike ratios and online polls is somehow representative of real world power It's what happens when you base your entire identity around exalting being an immature, bigoted, entitled manbaby: any criticism is an unbearable affront to the greatness you think you have.
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Aug 24, 2016 23:03
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nine-gear crow posted:A friend pointed out to me the staggering like:dislike ratio the video's already racked up. That's the best part of the MRAs to me. For all the yelling they do about oversensitive liberals, they are they whiniest mofos ever
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Aug 24, 2016 23:09
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I never knew it was pronounced "bright-bart" ...what? I can sort of understand someone thinking it's pronounced like "bratebart" or "breetbart" since "ei" is sometimes pronounced like "A" or "E", but it's hard to imagine a native English speaker pronouncing "Breit" as "bree-it".
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Ytlaya posted:...what? I can sort of understand someone thinking it's pronounced like "bratebart" or "breetbart" since "ei" is sometimes pronounced like "A" or "E", but it's hard to imagine a native English speaker pronouncing "Breit" as "bree-it". 
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The Alt-Right has a very weird belief that arbitrary domination of minor markers, such as like/dislike ratios and online polls is somehow representative of real world power You don't think the ability to determine who hears your message and whether or not it has credibility is power? Or is it that you don't think the Internet is the real world? Because both of those views are hopelessly outdated.
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TildeATH posted:You don't think the ability to determine who hears your message and whether or not it has credibility is power? Or is it that you don't think the Internet is the real world? Yes, the real world power of YouTube likes and dislikes
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Aug 24, 2016 23:38
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yes, the real world power of YouTube likes and dislikes Likes and dislikes drive the recommendation algorithm. That determines what you see. Y'all sound like get off my lawn old people when you pretend that social media fiddling is a waste of time. It's the same attitude that allowed the Right to make talk radio into the creepazoid echo chamber of doom because originally people said it was just radio, it didn't affect anything. Then the next thing you know we've got actual political candidates talking like Limbaugh and Levin. What I mean to say is Gamergaters need to be sent to reeducation camps. In Cambodia. For the good of all of us.
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TildeATH posted:Likes and dislikes drive the recommendation algorithm. That determines what you see. Y'all sound like get off my lawn old people when you pretend that social media fiddling is a waste of time. It's the same attitude that allowed the Right to make talk radio into the creepazoid echo chamber of doom because originally people said it was just radio, it didn't affect anything. Then the next thing you know we've got actual political candidates talking like Limbaugh and Levin. MODS! Please ban for hate speech. *tries not to cry into body pillow*
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BigRed0427 posted:MODS! Please ban for hate speech. *tries not to cry into body pillow* What's Khmer Rouge for "Free speech zone" and "safe space"?
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TildeATH posted:What's Khmer Rouge for "Free speech zone" and "safe space"? Depends on how good your natural vision was
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TildeATH posted:Likes and dislikes drive the recommendation algorithm. Yeah, maybe 10+ or 15+ years ago companies like Reddit 1.0 were using naive like/dislike metrics, but Facebook and Youtube in 2016 certainly aren't. The recommendation algorithms are so personalized nowadays that I doubt it matters very much other than likes/dislikes informing Google what kind of videos your user account specifically likes or dislikes. Then they can cross reference the viewing histories of accounts that have similar patterns to yours in order to feed you stuff it thinks you'll be into. So they can go like or dislike all they want. It probably won't have that much effect on who ends up seeing the video other than making it so Gamergaters don't see it. It has about as much relevance as people zerg rushing online polls to prove Ron Paul was totally gonna win the presidency. ErIog fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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BigRed0427 posted:That's the best part of the MRAs to me. For all the yelling they do about oversensitive liberals, they are they whiniest mofos ever i find that the kind of people who get all smug about [insert group here] being oversensitive or thin-skinned tend to themselves be hilariously thin-skinned—and cripplingly self-unaware to boot
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TildeATH posted:Likes and dislikes drive the recommendation algorithm. That determines what you see. They do they drive the recommendation algorithm but it doesn't matter whether you like or dislike it more engagements is better treated in the recommendation and search relevance.
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nine-gear crow posted:A friend pointed out to me the staggering like:dislike ratio the video's already racked up. It came from reddit  this one is good too peter banana fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:"Let's tell the EU to eat our shorts!" - Brexitbart my journalism website is also named Breitbort
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