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Crazycryodude posted:I need these. Are they hiding in the old thread somewhere? Just click on the little question mark on the lower right section of one of her posts in the old thread. You can't really go wrong. Also pro-click are P-Mack on China, Bewbies on planes and tanks, lenoon on conscientious objectors, and trim triangle on WWI. JaucheCharly has good posts about recurve bows, but they're kinda divided between the old mil-hist thread and the medieval one.
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aphid_licker posted:Clockwork solve all problem thats seriously gay black hitler poo poo
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aphid_licker posted:Clockwork solve all problem Everyone lives in repurposed flakturme.
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OwlFancier posted:Everyone lives in repurposed flakturme. They're war projects and incidentally the only ones that really held up ok. Most of the prewar prestige projects are in bad shape from the top of my head. Shoddy construction and neglect. The Flak towers are a really interesting topic though. The ones in the Augarten and the two in the Arenbergpark still held mounds of trash that La Speranza excavated, he was invited to workshop that I did a few years back. There's an exhibition on the finds somewhere, which looked quite interesting. The larger tower in the third district is open for tours on certain days, but I've never been there so far. Only one of the hidden air raid shelters. There's some of those left, but they blend in really well with the city. The Flak tower in the Arengbergpark is also nice for the signs of combat that you can still see on the eastern side.
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HEY GAL posted:i thought you belonged to Altblau, and i thought Altblau was still a thing in the later part of the war--like, baner loved those guys Altblau was indeed, our group is a part of it in some events since there isn't that many of us, but the unit we portray is the Savolax infantry regiment.
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Ataxerxes posted:Altblau was indeed, our group is a part of it in some events since there isn't that many of us, but the unit we portray is the Savolax infantry regiment. my condolences
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lenoon posted:but more cuirassiers means less Demi Lancers Dragoons are best, but nobody gives a poo poo 
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OwlFancier posted:And yet my takeaway is "Why the gently caress did anyone invent the wheellock?" I think the difference in simplicity can be overestimated. Yes they are simpler overall but they still require a lot of forging, filing, and some fairly tricky tempering. I think Cyrano is also correct in saying that the wheelock is more reliable. At the very least, it provides a greater shower of sparks.
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wheellocks use iron pyrite wrapped in a little blanket of lead instead of a flint wrapped in leather, so you don't have to worry about snapping flints either
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If WW2 happened 20 years later, would all the belligerents be close enough to the atomic bomb for it to end in a nuclear hellstorm?
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SeanBeansShako posted:Somebody was covering the history of trucks and general motorised logistics in the younger days of the old thread, he started but then got distracted and didn't get very far I'm behind by quite a bit. That was me, and the pause has been due to a lack of time, mostly. The single posts can be found here: Truck chat begins (History of Truck Chat) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=456170532 Truck chat continues (WW1 Trucks) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=456498751 Truck chat continues (WW1 End) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=456529549 Truck chat continues (Interwar Period) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=456972375 Truck chat continues more (WW2 Trucks) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=457012477 Truck chat: Revenge of Truck Chat (Mostly Russian Truck-chat) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=458405879 Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:If WW2 happened 20 years later, would all the belligerents be close enough to the atomic bomb for it to end in a nuclear hellstorm? It's hard to overestimate the kick in the pants that nuclear development got due to a multi-continent war consuming the world. Also, without WW2 you don't get the obvious split between two superpowers that leads to that military investment continuing on through the cold war.
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Disinterested posted:This is a good opportunity to ask a question Stahel doesn't answer: why, in the figures I listed above, would the IV's losses be 75% of total strength, while the III and II's losses were at 50%? Given most of the losses were reliability or supply related, were the IV's in 1941 that much more unreliable than the rest of the tank fleet? He says that they tended to ditch the heavier armour when they had to ditch vehicles for fuel and parts reasons as well, so I'm assuming that might have been a factor? Less Panzer IVs in service allows for a higher loss percentage due to breakdown and/or failure?
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Endman posted:From what I've read, Winter wouldn't have been as huge of a problem if it wasn't for Autumn and the prolonged rainy season that turned the already appalling Russian roads into rivers of mud. German logistics became bogged down and ensured the Winter punched Jerry right in his frozen, unprepared testicles. It would've also been a lot better if the Germans weren't forced to delay Barbarossa until mid-June. I guess what I'm saying is that its not the Brits, the Americans, the French, the Australians, the New Zealanders, or even the Russians that won WW2, but the Yugoslavians and Greeks instead.
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lenoon posted:Also that my grandad still says ilka for "the same", I didn't know he was a saxon. Whoah, where is your Grandfather from?
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lenoon posted:edit: and nobody will convince me otherwise Is that good? 
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cheerfullydrab posted:Could we have a discussion about war movies? What is everyone's favorite war movie? Most accurate? Guilty pleasure? The Battle of Britain is probably my favorite war movie, and a contender for favorite movie of all time. The planes aren't accurate thanks to demobilization and lack of conservation efforts/groups, and I don't like the romance subplot all that much, but overall it touches on so many different aspects of the war that I can't help but enjoy it. Also, I think the air combat is some of, if not THE, best WW2 aerial combat captured on film, CGI or otherwise.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:The Battle of Britain is probably my favorite war movie, and a contender for favorite movie of all time. The planes aren't accurate thanks to demobilization and lack of conservation efforts/groups, and I don't like the romance subplot all that much, but overall it touches on so many different aspects of the war that I can't help but enjoy it. I had a VHS copy of that as a kid that I wore the gently caress out. Years later, in college, I was at some airplane museum (maybe Chino?) and they had one of the Spanish 109s that were in the film. I geeked out about that more than any of the actual rare aircraft they had.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I had a VHS copy of that as a kid that I wore the gently caress out. Years later, in college, I was at some airplane museum (maybe Chino?) and they had one of the Spanish 109s that were in the film. I geeked out about that more than any of the actual rare aircraft they had. Those Spanish 109's are equally rare  I would've totally geeked out too, just like how I geek out at the Avro Arrow every time I see it. There's a museum near my place with an Me-163 Komet and a Salamander and I absolutely love talking about how much of a piece of garbage the Komet is. And I recently discovered they have a position open for a tour guide... might have to apply and see where that takes me! 
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my dad posted:If I remember right, one of the mercenaries Hey Gal studies had a habit of being drunk as gently caress and shooting a pistol out of the window before having dinner with his buddies. One day, the gun didn't fire. He tried to figure out what was wrong with the pistol while the muzzle was pointing at his best friend. Guess what happened next.
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Endman posted:Dragoons are best, but nobody gives a poo poo Lol no go chase some guerillas loser
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TBoB was good as hell, but the Netflix transfer is really sketchy whenever the camera pans. Unless that was my iPad crapping out.
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I just saw the new movie Anthropoid, which is about the commando operation that killed Heydrich. It is very good and worth seeing. Definitely doesn't shy away from the ugliness of the whole business.
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Has there been any recent analysis on how well the Iraq army is doing against ISIS? Always had a soft spot for armies in these kinda lovely situations.
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Monocled Falcon posted:Has there been any recent analysis on how well the Iraq army is doing against ISIS? A little too recent for military history. Abu Hajar is timeless though
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:A little too recent for military history. Countless poor bastards throughout history have been Abu Hajar.
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HEY GAL posted:counterpoint: cuirassiers are real, and strong, and they are my friend Sarah: Mama, Iggy has promised to bring me a cuirassier's helmet to use as a work basket - without blood in it, Mama. Duchess of Richmond: And one for me, young man - with the blood. Sir William Ponsonby: And where do you plan to stick your Frenchman, Hay? Lord Richard Hay: I thought under the right arm, sir. Sarah: See? He has it all planned. General Picton: When you meet a cuirassier beam-to-beam, you'll be lucky if you bring away your life with you, never mind his helmet. Boy, you'll learn the art of fighting from the French.
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Zereth posted:Wasn't it because firing it was easier than unloading it properly? You might want to pour water or something in there first, just in case.
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Endman posted:Dragoons are best, but nobody gives a poo poo Dragoons rule, infantry and cavalry drool.
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Cyrano4747 posted:It's hard to overestimate the kick in the pants that nuclear development got due to a multi-continent war consuming the world. Hmm, I'm curious what happens to the British and French Empires, though. As-is, given both were flat broke after the war while the US had built up a massive military, and because both new superpowers were not big fans of (overt) imperialism, it became obviously fairly quickly that that stuff was over. Otherwise, well, India goes to some sort of Dominion status regardless if I recall, but things could get real ugly in Africa with Britain and France trying to hang on, the Soviet Union probably stirring trouble, and the US largely not giving a poo poo about anything other than the Western Hemisphere.
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feedmegin posted:Hmm, I'm curious what happens to the British and French Empires, though. As-is, given both were flat broke after the war while the US had built up a massive military, and because both new superpowers were not big fans of (overt) imperialism, it became obviously fairly quickly that that stuff was over. Otherwise, well, India goes to some sort of Dominion status regardless if I recall, but things could get real ugly in Africa with Britain and France trying to hang on, the Soviet Union probably stirring trouble, and the US largely not giving a poo poo about anything other than the Western Hemisphere. We're getting dangerously clancy here.
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FAUXTON posted:Stick a screw on your ramrod to unload safely
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On the historical wargames thread Colonial Air Force posted this: http://www.20thgmb.com/rkaa-tactics.html It's a miniatures summary of soviet breakthrough tactics 1944-45. I have a question (besides the obvious "is it accurate"); how many guys would that be standing in for? I assume there's some scale involved, but if it's a stand = platoon or such then that's a lot lower level than I pictured deep battle operating.
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spectralent posted:On the historical wargames thread Colonial Air Force posted this: http://www.20thgmb.com/rkaa-tactics.html It's a miniatures summary of soviet breakthrough tactics 1944-45. This is was a really cool explanation of something I had been wondering about. In every documentary I've ever watched about the Eastern front this was always basically summed up as '... and the Red Army began their attack with an artillery bombardment involving 5 trillion guns" without further elaboration and this pretty much explained how that works. Also they called the bombardment "the treatment" which is awesome. Need more names for softening a position with artillery fire. "Giving them the business"?
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The article gets the gist of it right, but messes up on the details. The IS-2s are following too close and without an infantry escort, plus anything where a heavy tank brigade is used would be way too important for T-70s. Also all the fluff like "there was an expectation of friendly fire", "losses of 37% were normal" and "guns standing literally axle to axle" id nonsense. Also the Soviet rolling barrage was a lot more complicated than described. And finally the name for the barrage was "artpodgotovka" (artillery preparations), not whatever this author made up.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:It would've also been a lot better if the Germans weren't forced to delay Barbarossa until mid-June. Much better. An attack in Mid-May runs straight into the tail end of the spring thaw, meaning that the Panzers never get the kind of breakthroughs and wide ranging encirclements they did in reality. The Soviets wouldn't have felt under intense pressure to counterattack at every opportunity and would have been able to mobilize fully before committing forces to battle, simply because they weren't losing units at such a fast pace. There would have been a real chance that the Soviets hold onto the really important industrial areas in the western part of Russia and don't suffer the disruption of production that came with the evacuation. All that would have shortened the war by at least a year, if not more, and probably would have saved millions of lives. In all seriousness, the whole "Balkan campaign caused a delay that meant Barbarossa failed"-thing is problematic for several reasons. The first, as I said above, is that the necessary good weather simply wasn't there before mid-June. The second is that the forces committed to the Balkans weren't actually scheduled for Barbarossa, and after they were done they went into the operational reserve instead of straight to the front. The third is that the Germans suffered massive logistical issues throughout Barbarossa, with the Luftwaffe forced to use bombers to fly fuel to the forward Panzer divisions because ground based supply units couldn't keep up. Throwing more units into an overstretched logistics network won't help you at all. The fourth is the frankly ridiculous idea that capturing Moscow ends the war, and that the Germans were within X weeks of capturing it (where X < length of Balkans campaign). Both notions are problematic at best. Moscow is not a small city, and it was one that the Soviets would have defended to the death. It would have made Stalingrad look like an ugly football riot. Even if the Germans reach it before winter, it is by no means certain that they will be able to take and hold it. And even if they take it, the war would continue. Capturing Moscow in 1812 did not end the war, as Napoleon found out (he was no doubt somewhat annoyed by this). While Moscow was important to the Soviet war effort (mostly as a transportation hub), it was by no means critical. The comparison to Berlin in 1945 simply does not take. By the time of the Battle of Berlin, the Allies had already captured the Ruhr and with it the heart of the German war industry. By comparison, the Soviet industry had relocated behind the Ural mountains and was safely out of reach of the Germans. So, yeah. Even if the Germans hadn't gone into the Balkans, they couldn't have attacked sooner. Even if they had attacked sooner, they couldn't have used the forces they sent to the Balkans. Even if they had used the forces for Barbarossa instead, it wouldn't have helped. Even if it would have helped, it wouldn't have been enough.
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Ensign Expendable posted:And finally the name for the barrage was "artpodgotovka" (artillery preparations), not whatever this author made up. This is so disappointing.
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Ensign Expendable posted:The article gets the gist of it right, but messes up on the details. The IS-2s are following too close and without an infantry escort, plus anything where a heavy tank brigade is used would be way too important for T-70s. Also all the fluff like "there was an expectation of friendly fire", "losses of 37% were normal" and "guns standing literally axle to axle" id nonsense. Also the Soviet rolling barrage was a lot more complicated than described. What kind of scale-ratio should I be inserting for the diagrams? How many tanks are those figures standing in for? Is it pretty much as-is or should I be expecting a company wherever there's a team stand or whatever?
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