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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



just get the ultra thin condoms smh

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kosherpickle
Aug 6, 2009
He pulled some really old moves I'd known about cus reddit but I let it go because most men and women do some of this poo poo and I was severely lonely. He had it in the drat bag and just hosed it all up all on his own.

epileptic_ev
Aug 25, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
its almost as if the library is a real place with encylopedias and then they invte comptar

house of the dad
Jul 4, 2005

I'm lucky to get a solid 2 bangs per year

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Business Gorillas posted:

just get the ultra thin condoms smh

If I don't buy Magnum xxxl my girlfriend won't be able to tell I have a big dong!

kosherpickle
Aug 6, 2009
I am allergic to latex and he made this super big deal about having gotten non-latex and honoring my wishes. I suspect he thought he would get me so turned on I wouldn't care/notice.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

E1M1 posted:

The weird side-effect of the era of teaching kids "just be you and things will work out" is that if you improve yourself in any way you'll be wary of or even irritated by the benefits that come with it

Yep. That and they don't think they need to, even when it will make their life better in really simple ways. Clothes are more flattering when you're fit, you'll live longer, whatever.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

kosherpickle posted:

I am allergic to latex and he made this super big deal about having gotten non-latex and honoring my wishes.

I feel like nice guys always want so much credit and praise for just acting normal and not creepy.

Cyber Punk 90210
Jan 7, 2004

The War Has Changed

Pick posted:

Actually the embittering thing is that everyone treats you far better, including teachers, parents, coworkers, basically everybody. At my last residence, the guy who worked at the corner store gave me free coffee at all times. And it's like, ok, add that to my list of free drinks I get now I guess, definitely the kind of thing that happened when I was borderline overweight (as if)

I was overweight my whole life and recently I lost a lot of weight (like, a lot) and this is the thing that hosed me up the most. Going from being actively ignored by everyone to being stopped in the grocery store by a woman "just curious how [my] day is going" really got in my head. For a few months I was genuinely depressed that people were nice to me now because I wasn't fat.

I'm better now, I came to terms with "Well, people are awful/gently caress this gay earth"

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
When my anxiety is at its worst, I can't eat. People who know me in real life know that I can go for 4-5 days without eating because of it. ( but usually only one or two.) It vastly improved my quality of life even though, in reality, it's symptomatic of a problem and unhealthy in its own right

Mr. Belding
May 19, 2006
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Business Gorillas posted:

It's this at first and then you realize "wait, the only thing different about me from when I got rejected is how I look. I'm still the same person" and then you get on the express train for massive resentment

Edit: if you already think that women are shallow and then a change in your physical appearance makes people more interested in you that's some pretty concrete reinforcement in that belief

I listened to an NPR story about this, but it was a woman's perspective. She had lost a lot of weight but felt like the fat her was the "real" her, and she resented that her fiancé probably would not have been interested in her when she was fat.

I think she is a broken sadbrains, and needs to get the gently caress over herself, and people need to tel her that instead of validating her crazy attempts to self-sabotage, but whatever.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
You can be fat, you can be thin, you're all welcome with me and my penis

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
People need to stop creating their identity around one singular thing like their weight, or their favorite sports team, or their sexuality, or whatever.

Why is the fat you the "real" you. Your past self isn't you. You don't need to do X just because you always have. The "self" is a constantly changing illusion. Hell you don't even have the same cells in your body you did 7 years ago, you're like 99% a different organism if you get technical with it.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

It's kind of funny how helpful strangers are now, and how much I realize that my days are now filled with small-talk instead of silence. Checkout lines, bus stops, wherever, people suddenly want to talk. Even my worst dad jokes are hilarious apparently, and my conversations have a totally different dynamic.

I think it's a good point that if you were already resentful towards people that can quickly turn to anger.

Is this what people who grew up being attractive feel their whole lives?

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut

Dreddout posted:

If I don't buy Magnum xxxl the cashier won't be able to tell I have a big dong!

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

i've never understood why some dudes are so adverse to wearing a rubber. physically it doesn't feel all that much different. psychologically it is a very slight downer, but not enough to actually kill the fun. just think of unprotected sex as something to look forward to when the relationship gets more serious, that way you get some of the benefits of abstaining from sex until late in a relationship whilst also getting your slut on the whole time.

in my experience its always been women that are negligent about the need for a condom while i am super insistent about it. so many girls tell me to just pull out, and then when i explain how that doesn't work they are all like "ohhhhh, so that explains how i got the herpes and also the three children".

Cyber Punk 90210
Jan 7, 2004

The War Has Changed

Mr. Belding posted:

She had lost a lot of weight but felt like the fat her was the "real" her,

I was morbidly obese by 7, I very much feel this way. However, I try to use it as a motivational tool instead of a crutch. "Okay, fat Rufus T. Turnbuckle would use this negative experience as an excuse to stay up until 3am and eat 4 bags of Haribo gummies. But that guy was an rear end in a top hat so I won't do that and I'll do healthy thing instead."

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Frosted Flake posted:

It's kind of funny how helpful strangers are now, and how much I realize that my days are now filled with small-talk instead of silence. Checkout lines, bus stops, wherever, people suddenly want to talk. Even my worst dad jokes are hilarious apparently, and my conversations have a totally different dynamic.

I think it's a good point that if you were already resentful towards people that can quickly turn to anger.

Is this what people who grew up being attractive feel their whole lives?

Yeah I think so. It also makes people weird about being generous or loving because there's this poisonous attitude that being kind is a fallback if you've got nothing else, instead of an important character trait for everyone

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Moon Atari posted:

i've never understood why some dudes are so adverse to wearing a rubber. physically it doesn't feel all that much different. psychologically it is a very slight downer, but not enough to actually kill the fun. just think of unprotected sex as something to look forward to when the relationship gets more serious, that way you get some of the benefits of abstaining from sex until late in a relationship whilst also getting your slut on the whole time.

in my experience its always been women that are negligent about the need for a condom while i am super insistent about it. so many girls tell me to just pull out, and then when i explain how that doesn't work they are all like "ohhhhh, so that explains how i got the herpes and also the three children".

Eh cumming doesn't feel as good but yeah it's not that different just get the ultra thins or whatever. I don't really get what the huge deal is either.

Although fwiw, pull out isn't as bad as you think (in terms of preggo risk, obv it helps not at all for STD avoidance):

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/withdrawal-pull-out-method posted:

Like all birth control methods, the pull out method is much more effective when you do it correctly.

Of every 100 women whose partners use withdrawal, 4 will become pregnant each year if they always do it correctly.
Of every 100 women whose partners use withdrawal, 27 will become pregnant each year if they don't always do it correctly.

ofc you gotta trust that the dude isn't an idiot and can tell when he's gonna cum and doesn't pull out after he's already started shooting

Given that condoms have a 2-3% fail rate when used right and pull out clocks in at 4% when used right, it's decent. Although I think a condom is easier to 'use right' if we're being fair due to aforementioned idiot dude shooting before he pulls out.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
Wait does the person being hot suddenly make it socially acceptable to bother them on the bus with my advances? This changes everything!

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

cheetah7071 posted:

Wait does the person being hot suddenly make it socially acceptable to bother them on the bus with my advances? This changes everything!

No no, the hotter you yourself are the more acceptable it is.

Although being a creep is just being a creep either way.

epileptic_ev
Aug 25, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

cheetah7071 posted:

Wait does the person being hot suddenly make it socially acceptable to bother them on the bus with my advances? This changes everything!

aw poor oppressed attractive person :( :(

Space Poodle
Nov 11, 2007
Don't young lawyers work 100 hours a week? Where are they supposed to find the time to gym hard enough to be adequately ornamental for lonely internet dudebro? Such mystery.

Space Poodle
Nov 11, 2007

Rufus T. Turnbuckle posted:

I was overweight my whole life and recently I lost a lot of weight (like, a lot) and this is the thing that hosed me up the most. Going from being actively ignored by everyone to being stopped in the grocery store by a woman "just curious how [my] day is going" really got in my head. For a few months I was genuinely depressed that people were nice to me now because I wasn't fat.

I'm better now, I came to terms with "Well, people are awful/gently caress this gay earth"

I would just like to point out: that happens to people who get cancer.

Can you imagine? "Oh, wow, you look great! What's your secret?"

LITERAL DYING. THAT IS LE SEEKREET.

kosherpickle
Aug 6, 2009

Moon Atari posted:


in my experience its always been women that are negligent about the need for a condom while i am super insistent about it. so many girls tell me to just pull out, and then when i explain how that doesn't work they are all like "ohhhhh, so that explains how i got the herpes and also the three children".

This quote fits quite nicely in this thread.

edit: also, are you bi?

kosherpickle fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Aug 25, 2016

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Space Poodle posted:

Don't young lawyers work 100 hours a week? Where are they supposed to find the time to gym hard enough to be adequately ornamental for lonely internet dudebro? Such mystery.

Clearly get a treadmill desk.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Space Poodle posted:

LITERAL DYING. THAT IS LE SEEKREET.

geez can we use the LES please?

Gotta nongender ALL THE WORDS.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Moridin920 posted:

No no, the hotter you yourself are the more acceptable it is.

Although being a creep is just being a creep either way.

Yeah, but the threshold for creepiness is way higher the more attractive you are. The hottest people in the world would probably have to literally be wearing a necklace made of the severed ears of previous people they've "dated" in order to come across as creepy.

All a super ugly person has to do is say "Hi".

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Moon Atari posted:

I hate that all black guy on white girl porn gets a little back story attached about cvcking now, when it didn't in the past. Why can't the black guy and white girl be in a loving relationship? Why do we need to think some wimpy white dude is getting hurt by it in order to get off? Why can't the fifteen black guys be gangbanging the blonde chick purely out of love and camaraderie? Why do we need to think about some loser being tortured by mixed feelings of arousal and crushed self-esteem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpcmfjFN8OI

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
if you're hot enough, being broken becomes being quirky. Thank god

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
It still varies greatly depending on who you are talking to though. People with higher sex drives are more likely to respond positively.

I know a couple people who say they are asexual either bc their sex drive is so low or idk but whatever the case may be they've both told me it doesn't matter how hot someone is if they are being gross they're being gross.


e: but yeah your shotgun method chances improve the more attractive you yourself are

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Aug 25, 2016

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

kosherpickle posted:

I seriously dodged a bullet and the way he is online vs. in person has really cemented the idea of what the vast majority of these dudes are like.

Legit curious, can you describe said majority of dudes?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I guess it's a process.

Guys who don't exercise or socialize become weird Nice Guys. When that doesn't work they end up becoming Red Pill dudes, or MGTOW, or working out. If they work out they still have all the social problems and need some time to work them through.

So, what 3 years from doughy neckbeard nerd to cool fit dude who isn't a crazy misogynist?

e: I don't really get online dating. Surely once you reach the point of a few hundred Tinder matches or people actually coming up to you in public you don't need to navigate OKC or POF. I checked them out once and the number of women who had been members for months was concerning.

Frosted Flake fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Aug 25, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Frosted Flake posted:

I guess it's a process.

Guys who don't exercise or socialize become weird Nice Guys. When that doesn't work they end up becoming Red Pill dudes, or MGTOW, or working out. If they work out they still have all the social problems and need some time to work them through.

So, what 3 years from doughy neckbeard nerd to cool fit dude who isn't a crazy misogynist?

They just lack empathy and the ability to see a situation from someone else's perspective usually. Imo because they are so focused on themselves and their own thing.

A red piller doesn't have social problems bc they are fat and ugly, a red piller has social problems because he treats half the population like objects or video game NPCs, and most of the other half like jerks too. Everything is ultimately about them and how it affects them. They have issues admitting fault bc it's always something else outside their control causing them grief (or so they believe).

Just look at George Elliot, dude simultaneously thought he was god's gift to humanity and also couldn't figure out why he was estranged from everybody and thus responded by acting even more socially awkward rather than fixing his own issues or acknowledging any fault. He blamed the entire world for not 'giving him his due' when he lost the lottery. And he wasn't bad looking or ugly or fat.

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Aug 25, 2016

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

kosherpickle posted:

edit: also, are you bi?

I don't think so, but so many of my posts are bizarre gay fiction or about swallowing cum that I've started to ask some questions of myself lately.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

if you're hot enough, being broken becomes being quirky. Thank god

Nah. It's still annoying.

The threshold level for people willing to deal with it rises, that's all.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Moridin920 posted:

Nah. It's still annoying.

The threshold level for people willing to deal with it rises, that's all.

:frog::respek::haw: True dat stupid poo poo.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Moridin920 posted:

Nah. It's still annoying.

The threshold level for people willing to deal with it rises, that's all.

It's doubly annoying when you don't have to play that game anymore. Which again, I can see some people taking too far. Not every pretty girl is also going to be a great conversationalist or have a huge breadth of knowledge but that's just because they're normal people and not because they're dumb whores. It's like they can't just take people off the pedestal, they have to take out their anger for ever putting anyone up there.

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot

Rufus T. Turnbuckle posted:

I was overweight my whole life and recently I lost a lot of weight (like, a lot) and this is the thing that hosed me up the most. Going from being actively ignored by everyone to being stopped in the grocery store by a woman "just curious how [my] day is going" really got in my head. For a few months I was genuinely depressed that people were nice to me now because I wasn't fat.

I'm better now, I came to terms with "Well, people are awful/gently caress this gay earth"

Fat people look like sacks of garbage so you have to avoid them

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kosherpickle
Aug 6, 2009

CrazyLoon posted:

Legit curious, can you describe said majority of dudes?

Basically, look at his posts. He talks a lot of loving game, talks about being in shape and the gym (average body heading towards flabby in real life), women's looks and stuff about their age and being gold-diggers(he's over 30 and still struggling with his job, I actually make more than he does), etc etc. He talks about holding women off and how to control things when his only efforts to control things came off as super creepy (telling me I was childish) and his attempts at pua/redpill tactics were super obvious and lame. I am super average, like, body below average, actually. Short, chubby, a single mom, daddy issues. My face is all right and so's my personality so I think that all evens out to average. Yet he kept after me and still wanted to insert himself into my life all these years later even though he goes on about bangs, notches, and rating women on scales and who he will and won't go out with. He wasn't the only one like that either, just the only one I found definite proof of through his internet history.

To sum it all up, they all talk like they are some seriously awesome poo poo, got it all together (except when they ask for advice, very knowingly and yet simultaneously with insecurity, somehow), know how women "really" are, talk about their plates and their game blah blah...but in real life they are the dudes they claim to look down upon ("betas") or just plain rear end in a top hat, creepy, pathetic or a combination of it all. This dude also has the added bonus of being a pseudo-intellectual and talking a lot of poo poo on forums about others' intelligence (I didn't post those because they weren't relevant) that's so common to these groups. Like, I could practically see him writing [body] in his head when starting a topic.

I really, REALLY, wish I had my other phone with the pics of how he talks about the women he's dated. I'll try and see if I can get to them tonight.

kosherpickle fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Aug 25, 2016

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