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beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

So rich, the media suddenly handwringing about bad manners. Where the gently caress were since the first day of Trump's campaign? Now because Hillary said something provocative it's completely unacceptable?

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Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
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Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

BiggerBoat posted:

The dumb thing is, aside from the dude referencing a "rivalry" from 20 or 25 loving years ago, it's perfectly fine to like or dislike either the RHCP or FNM. I like them both but it doesn't matter. I have lovely taste in certain ways.

I think that dumb, innocuous and ultimately harmless comment the guy tweeted speaks more to conservative's polarity, black and white worldview and their overall tendency to "choose sides" than anything having to do with music. I grew up liking both of those bands and never once heard anyone who liked either of them argue about choosing "sides". Most people I knew who liked one usually liked the other and owned CD's from both bands, along with Jane's Addiction, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Fishbone...

What a weird tweet.

I heard of the rivalry you're talking about, and it hasn't really affected my musical tastes. I like a lot of FNM's stuff, but I also like RHCP. The story about members of the Peppers sexually assaulting somebody does more to make me not like them than anything Greg Gutfeld or Mike Patton says about them.

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




BiggerBoat posted:

The dumb thing is, aside from the dude referencing a "rivalry" from 20 or 25 loving years ago, it's perfectly fine to like or dislike either the RHCP or FNM. I like them both but it doesn't matter. I have lovely taste in certain ways.

I think that dumb, innocuous and ultimately harmless comment the guy tweeted speaks more to conservative's polarity, black and white worldview and their overall tendency to "choose sides" than anything having to do with music. I grew up liking both of those bands and never once heard anyone who liked either of them argue about choosing "sides". Most people I knew who liked one usually liked the other and owned CD's from both bands, along with Jane's Addiction, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Fishbone...

What a weird tweet.

Edit: what I mean is I file this under "Who Gives a poo poo - 1993"

Music is a weird thing, and the more I think of it, the more meaningless musical arguments kinda match how many political arguments are had these days. When I was a teen, we'd talk endlessly about the dumb drama of things like this. I think it's just this weird human need to be connected to something important (which, when you're 15 is obviously your favorite musicians, since there is no other job that could possibly rule that much). You hit your 20's and the world expects you to be "serious" or maybe it's just a thing you put on yourself, and the lazy way to do that is to change the subject but not the flow of discussion. Maybe you branch to sports. Maybe you branch to politics. Maybe you branch to RAHOWA or whatever.

As usual, I kinda rambled here, but I think my point is that some people learn how to frame and discuss things at the Magical Age when everything is perfect (usually 14-16 or so), and just don't grow out of dumb schoolyard arguments, to the detriment of everyone else who shares an equal vote with them. (This could also branch into the whole "good old days"/why-is-life-not-Leave-it-to-Beaver argument, since that's obviously rooted in the same sort of stuck-in-a-time-period thinking).

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

Fried Watermelon posted:

Noah Patterson, 18, has never had sex. “I’d rather be watching YouTube videos and making money.” Sex, he said, is “not going to be something people ask you for on your résumé.”

What's the old saying?

"If the fox cannot reach the grapes, he says they are not ripe!"

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

MrUnderbridge posted:

What's the old saying?

"If the fox cannot reach the grapes, he says they are not ripe!"

Yeah, but this is in an article about a bunch of foxes, even those who can reach the grapes agreeing that they're not ripe.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Keeshhound posted:

Yeah, but this is in an article about a bunch of foxes, even those who can reach the grapes agreeing that they're not ripe.

Sure, buddy, okay.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
The foxes might already have grapes.

Tiny grapes.

It's a dick joke.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
I made a point to record Rachel last night so I could check it out after work, see what kind of attention the Alt Right was getting after Hillary's speech.

I have to hand it to Rachel. She started from way back as usual and got up to Kellyann Conway and Steve Bannon both being brought on to replace Manafort in the Trump campaign. She laid out how this one donor basically paid for the Cruz superPAC Kellyann worked for before switching to Trump. The same guy is also a big shareholder of Breitbart.com. So this is how you see both Conway and Bannon working on Trump's campaign now.
She also did a good job of explaining what the Alt Right is, how it relates to Breitbart, and showing lots of Alt Right style headlines. It was a good package of info.

Also her guest was a guy who's been following these "Race Realists" etc. for many years and ended his interview by interrupting Rachel as she was trying to throw to commercial. She used the term Alt Right and he interjected that we shouldn't allow them to name themelves, because they're white wupremacists, full-stop. It was good.

I'm really glad the Clinton campaign addressed them head-on they way they did. I'm not the least bit surprised that they'll try to spin this as great exposure, but I doubt that will be how it turns out for them. Many people will deny reality but the sheer weight of evidence (e.g. David Duke saying we've taken over), the people behind them running Trump's campaign, and Trump's extreme toxicity with women and minorities is something that the GOP is going to have to address.

At this point with Trump committing the mortal sin of being squishy on "amnesty" and his poll numbers I could see Hillary winning by a lot more than I ever imagined before this week.


Also, high-fives to the Fishbone fans.

E: Don't let work distract ya from just posting.

Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Aug 26, 2016

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Shugojin posted:

I still can't believe "cuck" escaped stupid internet jokes and became part of stupid internet political discussions.

e: wordfilter my friend :allears:

And now they've circled back to stupid internet jokes:

https://twitter.com/timheidecker/status/769268304452083712

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Trump: surrounding himself with the best people. Terriffic people!

Sorry about the pic size. Didn't realize it was so large. Still getting used to this tablet.

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Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Aug 26, 2016

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
'Yay we can be openly racist now - oh wait, people won't vote for us if we are and that's why we were avoiding being openly racist. poo poo.'

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Sir Tonk posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXl0S1UYF5w

The slow destruction of FoxNews this year has been quite an interesting thing to witness, I look forward to Trump's new channel he'll be starting with Bannon and Ailes.

LOL,

"People want to know the truth, they're waking up"

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)
TNN, colloquially known as WET.

It will be the same as old TNN except show more (Nazi)-metal and (Nazi)-punk.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Dr. Faustus posted:

Also her guest was a guy who's been following these "Race Realists" etc. for many years and ended his interview by interrupting Rachel as she was trying to throw to commercial. She used the term Alt Right and he interjected that we shouldn't allow them to name themelves, because they're white supremacists, full-stop. It was good.

I'm really glad the Clinton campaign addressed them head-on they way they did. I'm not the least bit surprised that they'll try to spin this as great exposure, but I doubt that will be how it turns out for them. Many people will deny reality but the sheer weight of evidence (e.g. David Duke saying we've taken over), the people behind them running Trump's campaign, and Trump's extreme toxicity with women and minorities is something that the GOP is going to have to address.
The alt-right, like Trump, thrives on ambiguity and collapses when pinned against the wall, and what the Clinton machine is doing is pinning both to each other in the hope they sink together.

Also Pepe is hilarious. I think it really has an almost hypnotic effect. Like the one where Pepe's conducting the Trump train. And he's got this playful, mischievous grin. I feel ridiculous taking the meme seriously but something about Zizek saying that for ideology to function today it cannot take itself too seriously. It's an anti-Semitic Nazi frog and you're taking that seriously? But it's a Nazi frog that happens to be deadly serious in its anti-Semitism.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Pepe doesn't have to be antisemetic. I can't tell with this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhNkv4ryuM

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

I feel bad for the cartoonist who created Pepe. Those comics are really fun and weird and now he's a mascot for white supremacy. :(

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

codenameFANGIO posted:

I feel bad for the cartoonist who created Pepe. Those comics are really fun and weird and now he's a mascot for white supremacy. :(

Huh. I never realized he was anything but that.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Dr. Faustus posted:

Trump: surrounding himself with the best people. Terriffic people!

Sorry about the pic size. Didn't realize it was so large. Still getting used to this tablet.



God damned Mud Bloods! :argh:

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Spun Dog posted:

Huh. I never realized he was anything but that.

Look up Boy's Club. It was a chill funny comic about some animal bros including Pepe.:feelsgood:

Ivan Shitskin
Nov 29, 2002

What the hell is it with alt-right nerds and anime? I don't watch anime so is there something in there that appeals to fascists? Looking in the alt-right twitter world, like with the people harassing Leslie Jones, there are legions of anime avatars screaming about SJWs and blah blah.

Are we facing a jackbooted fascist movement marching under the banner of a cutesy little nazi anime girl?

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Spun Dog posted:

Huh. I never realized he was anything but that.

Boy's Club by Matt Furie.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Kenzie posted:

What the hell is it with alt-right nerds and anime? I don't watch anime so is there something in there that appeals to fascists? Looking in the alt-right twitter world, like with the people harassing Leslie Jones, there are legions of anime avatars screaming about SJWs and blah blah.

Are we facing a jackbooted fascist movement marching under the banner of a cutesy little nazi anime girl?

A huge amount of anime is basically porn but unconstrained by physics so it can be degrading towards women in ways that the standard industry can only dream of. This plays well into the culture of alt-right nerds.

Joshmo
Aug 22, 2007

Dr. Faustus posted:

Trump: surrounding himself with the best people. Terriffic people!

Sorry about the pic size. Didn't realize it was so large. Still getting used to this tablet.



So being born to American parents who happen to be in another country when they have sex still doesn't count? Is there something special about people having sex in any particular area? I mean, George Romney became governor and a cabinet member, so... failure? The other guy became President. Wouldn't this be a failure on pure breeds part? Not quite as great as every racist makes them out to be.

Schizotek
Nov 8, 2011

I say, hey, listen to me!
Stay sane inside insanity!!!

Kenzie posted:

What the hell is it with alt-right nerds and anime? I don't watch anime so is there something in there that appeals to fascists? Looking in the alt-right twitter world, like with the people harassing Leslie Jones, there are legions of anime avatars screaming about SJWs and blah blah.

Are we facing a jackbooted fascist movement marching under the banner of a cutesy little nazi anime girl?

They're all giant loving nerds and fetishize Japanese people.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Let's look at totally sane Texas GOP . . . something Robert Morrow.

https://twitter.com/RobMorroLiberty?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Likes:

Anime
Big Titties
Conservativism

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

Shbobdb posted:

Let's look at totally sane Texas GOP . . . something Robert Morrow.

https://twitter.com/RobMorroLiberty?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Likes:

Anime
Big Titties
Conservativism

Well, two out of three ain't bad.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

codenameFANGIO posted:

I feel bad for the cartoonist who created Pepe. Those comics are really fun and weird and now he's a mascot for white supremacy. :(

He's doing alright with the whole situations http://www.cbr.com/meet-pepes-daddy-matt-furie-talks-boys-club/

Don't feel bad, it's all good!

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
The Jacobin has a good article on Alex Jones and Trump.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Joshmo posted:

So being born to American parents who happen to be in another country when they have sex still doesn't count? Is there something special about people having sex in any particular area? I mean, George Romney became governor and a cabinet member, so... failure? The other guy became President. Wouldn't this be a failure on pure breeds part? Not quite as great as every racist makes them out to be.

The Inside of Katrina Piersons head must be a real strange place.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Schizotek posted:

They're all giant loving nerds and fetishize Japanese people.

Japan is extremely racially homogeneous, incredibly racist, deeply homophobic, and profoundly repressive of women. Exactly the kind of society and culture the alt-right wants to live in.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

Cythereal posted:

Japan is extremely racially homogeneous, incredibly racist, deeply homophobic, and profoundly repressive of women. Exactly the kind of society and culture the alt-right wants to live in.
The alt-right wouldn't dig on Japan's homophobia and racism because it doesn't have most of the trappings of Western racism and especially Western homophobia. Like, they don't conflate gay folks with child molesters or the mentally insane, instead they just don't allow anyone LGBT into their popular culture unless they tick off a long list of offensive stereotypes first.

The sexism would make them feel right at home, though.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Shlomo Palestein posted:

My understanding was that Patton and Anthony Keidis were still on iffy terms because Keidis accused Patton of ripping off his style years ago, and Patton responded by having Mr. Bungle mockingly cover RHCP songs.

The big thing was Keidis having Mr Bungle kicked off a bunch of festival dates they were both scheduled to perform at since they were the headliner and had final say over the lineup.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Cythereal posted:

Japan is extremely racially homogeneous, incredibly racist, deeply homophobic, and profoundly repressive of women. Exactly the kind of society and culture the alt-right wants to live in.

I think one key difference though is that Japan is quiet about it, nor does it have the ugly history of a country splitting civil war. The gajin insult is well known, but beyond that, they're pretty quiet about the homophobia and sexism (at least what I see here). The homophobia is starting to die off (literally), and the sexism possibly? Grain of salt and whatnot.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

iospace posted:

I think one key difference though is that Japan is quiet about it, nor does it have the ugly history of a country splitting civil war. The gajin insult is well known, but beyond that, they're pretty quiet about the homophobia and sexism (at least what I see here). The homophobia is starting to die off (literally), and the sexism possibly? Grain of salt and whatnot.
I mean, no. Like within the last year there's been this shocking sukyandaru whereby a well-known Japanese TV personality had some random affair with a married person, and now their career is in shambles. The twist is that, this time, the TV personality in question is a woman, thus the shambles because if Becky was a dude no one would give a solitary gently caress. poo poo, Hitoshi Matsumoto is famously promiscuous - that's part of his gimmick (or was, until he got a woman pregnant - a woman formerly also in show business and I'll leave it to you to figure out why she isn't anymore).

No one notices the racism because how could you in a country as ethnically homogeneous as Japan. They definitely have rampant homophobia but it doesn't set off most of the homophobia alarm bells for Westerners - why, just look at all the LGBT folks they have on TV, after all! The sexism is blatant though, and not going anywhere - I'm not sure how anyone could come to any other conclusion.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Kilroy posted:

I mean, no. Like within the last year there's been this shocking sukyandaru whereby a well-known Japanese TV personality had some random affair with a married person, and now their career is in shambles. The twist is that, this time, the TV personality in question is a woman, thus the shambles because if Becky was a dude no one would give a solitary gently caress. poo poo, Hitoshi Matsumoto is famously promiscuous - that's part of his gimmick (or was, until he got a woman pregnant - a woman formerly also in show business and I'll leave it to you to figure out why she isn't anymore).

No one notices the racism because how could you in a country as ethnically homogeneous as Japan. They definitely have rampant homophobia but it doesn't set off most of the homophobia alarm bells for Westerners - why, just look at all the LGBT folks they have on TV, after all! The sexism is blatant though, and not going anywhere - I'm not sure how anyone could come to any other conclusion.

As I said, grain of salt. Basically said "I could be wrong, and if proven wrong, I'll accept that I am".

You proved that I was wrong, and thus I am accepting that I am.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Schizotek posted:

They're all giant loving nerds and fetishize Japanese people.
They buy into the stereotype of Asian women as petit, demure, and submissive. The thought of having a wife who is pretty, easy to manhandle, quiet, and never talks back or complains is pretty much heaven on earth to these shitbags.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
isn't the dude who does attack on titan a straight up japanese nationalist and/or has excused war crimes in korea?

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Instant Sunrise posted:

isn't the dude who does attack on titan a straight up japanese nationalist and/or has excused war crimes in korea?

there's a few nationalistic anime/manga that have that kind of thing going on, also a hate-boner for China.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Instant Sunrise posted:

isn't the dude who does attack on titan a straight up japanese nationalist and/or has excused war crimes in korea?

Even if he's not, the series is pretty fascist. It's evolved into a story about a corrupt civilian government that can't do anything right and a glorious, noble military fighting for the people.

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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Instant Sunrise posted:

isn't the dude who does attack on titan a straight up japanese nationalist and/or has excused war crimes in korea?

It can't be any worse than Koichi Sugiyama.

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