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They could stuff their SKY-G poo poo into it making it a miller cycle turbo rotary. Higher static compression ratio and miller cycle lowering overall combustion pressures would fix emissions. A 10 speed transmission or even mild hybrid would fix the fuel economy thing.
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Make it a hybrid with a cvt. The increased fuel economy will allow for a smaller gas tank, which will free up space for a 5 gallon oil reserve tank.
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eyebeem posted:Make it a hybrid with a cvt. The increased fuel economy will allow for a smaller gas tank, which will free up space for a 5 gallon oil reserve tank. They already have some pretty good manuals and automatics, so it might be cheaper to use those instead of buying a CVT from Jatco or someone. Not sure how much power they can typically handle also.
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eyebeem posted:Make it a hybrid with a cvt. The increased fuel economy will allow for a smaller gas tank, which will free up space for a 5 gallon oil reserve tank. CT just had an anyerusm.
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Aug 26, 2016 05:32
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FBS posted:I just want a Miata I can fit in. I test drove an NC and sat in the new one at the dealer and neither one would be usable as a daily driver. My heart was broken Why is it so heavy, and where the gently caress is my OPEL GT gm?
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Aug 26, 2016 09:39
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Also make it brown and a station wagon
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Aug 26, 2016 13:36
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RX-9 was always a shooting brake you know
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Aug 26, 2016 14:42
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Brown rotary turbo diesel AWD shooting brake. With a CVT.
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Aug 26, 2016 15:54
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eyebeem posted:Brown rotary turbo diesel AWD shooting brake. The best car nobody will ever ever ever buy. Not even one sale.
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Aug 26, 2016 15:56
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Make it a PX-9 with a proper piston engine and not some stupid self-destructing dorito spinner and they might actually sell some that make it past 80,000mi on it's first engine. Come at me, RADL.
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BloodBag posted:Make it a PX-9 with a proper piston engine and not some stupid self-destructing dorito spinner and they might actually sell some that make it past 80,000mi on it's first engine. Come at me, RADL. Everyone likes to joke about brown manual transmission diesel wagons but the eternal want-but-don't-buy vehicle is always a rotary Mazda.
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wargames posted:Why is it so heavy, and where the gently caress is my OPEL GT gm? 2900lbs. Is pretty drat good.
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BloodBag posted:Make it a PX-9 with a proper piston engine and not some stupid self-destructing dorito spinner and they might actually sell some that make it past 80,000mi on it's first engine. Come at me, RADL. Yup. RWD 2+2 with the turbo Skyactiv 2.5 would be so much smarter.
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Aug 26, 2016 22:48
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Airbag laws and crash standards basically mean it's going to have to be at least 20-30% larger than the miata. Probably close to the mustang. 230hp wouldn't be enough.
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Aug 26, 2016 22:57
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The 2.5T in the CX-9 is tuned for torque over revs, and puts out 310 ftlbs (and 250hp on premium gas.) I'd imagine in a performance application at least 300hp would be very doable.
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:The 2.5T in the CX-9 is tuned for torque over revs, and puts out 310 ftlbs (and 250hp on premium gas.) I'd imagine in a performance application at least 300hp would be very doable. Well no one's gonna pay $79k for 300hp.
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davebo posted:Well no one's gonna pay $79k for 300hp. I was about 5 when the NSX came out but I very clearly remember going to look at a green one with my dad and because of the $ and HP factor he ended up with a '93 ZR1 instead. Of course I like to remind him that he could have basically made his money back on an NSX by now but man that ZR1 could move
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There's a window of opportunity that may be closing soon for Japanese manufacturers to cash in on 90's nostalgia. There are plenty of people that grew up idolizing the RX-7/Supra/3000GT/300ZX that now have money. Mazda won't even make a Mazdaspeed 3 even though it's staring them in the face. Why would they go out on such a limb and make a new rotary car? Look I like rotaries as much as the next disfunctional enthusiast but no one is paying 80K for that poo poo. Not in a world with GT350s and C7 Grand Sports. Also these rumors are dumb and I suspect people are getting tired of hearing about things that never come to fruition. Also I'd buy one tomorrow because I'm a sucker.
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:Also I'd buy one tomorrow because I'm a sucker. I wholeheartedly agree. The only thing that I would prefer over a rotary - and if Mazda dug deep and went with the rotary goes "mmmmmmm", would be a turbine. It still laterally fits the rotary ethos of rotational energy only and Jag had a lot of positive response with the first revision of the C-X75 concept. How's the Mazda 2 / Demio rotary hybrid doing anyways? http://www.mazda.com/en/innovation/stories/rotary/newera/
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Has anyone posted that new Jaguar SUV thing? I saw one yesterday at the grocery store and I thought it looked pretty nice in person. Porsche could take a lesson from Jaguar on how to put a sports car's "face" on a truck, because they succeeded where the Cayenne and Macan continue to fail. I just looked up the name, I thought they called it Pee-Face  http://www.jaguarusa.com/all-models/f-pace/index.html
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BloodBag posted:Has anyone posted that new Jaguar SUV thing? I saw one yesterday at the grocery store and I thought it looked pretty nice in person. Porsche could take a lesson from Jaguar on how to put a sports car's "face" on a truck, because they succeeded where the Cayenne and Macan continue to fail. Haven't seen one in person yet but the pictures sure make it look good. It doesn't really come as a surprise though because jag has the best styling in the industry right now IMO.
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I have seen one in person. Not my cup of absinthe, but its a really nice looking box with wheels. Too bad about the gently caress-dumb name.
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Hasn't the rotary nearly bankrupted Mazda like twice now? If they were actually trying to make a new one (I can't believe this rumor) the company is basically an addict.
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Given Cayenne and Macan sales vs cost of production I don't think Porsche failed at all
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Network42 posted:Hasn't the rotary nearly bankrupted Mazda like twice now? If they were actually trying to make a new one (I can't believe this rumor) the company is basically an addict. Many atrocities have been committed in the name of "tradition," and this is one of them. davebo posted:Well no one's gonna pay $79k for 300hp. I think aiming for something that kind of fits performance wise in the Cayman S, base 911, M2, F-Type world starting at around $50k is their best bet, and totally within reach if they just lay off the rotary  . If they go for an NSX style six-figure rotary moonshot they're going to kill themselves in the process.
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:Many atrocities have been committed in the name of "tradition," and this is one of them.  
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In that the dorito motor has nearly bankrupted the company that has given us excellent cars like the Miata and Mazda3, yes, I think that's an appropriate term. Don't get me wrong, I think rotaries are cool, but would you rather have a rotary from a defunct company, or a MX5 RF from a company that continues to be profitable?
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I'd rather have *insert fun thing here* from a company that an afford it, even if that involves funding fun poo poo with squidgy volume sellers. Take Toyota... there isn't a thing wrong with the Camry except that it's boring as all gently caress and they don't bother making anything fun to compensate for it. ...ok there is the Toyobaru but it's neither entirely theirs nor terribly fast so I'd say my point stands. ...I guess that means I have to tolerate Mazda trying to make everything passably fun even if they can't afford to build legends. Friar Zucchini fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Maybe they've fixed the rotary?? Laser ignition or something idk
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Thats pretty awesome that the new turbo powerplant out of the CX-9 fits in both the Mazda 3 and Mazda 6. Whats that? Mazda is too cash strapped to gently caress with mazdaspeed variants right now? Ah ok, thats cool. Id rather see them play it safe and then eventually maybe someday make a new mazdaspeed. Good for them though, not wasting their time on some dumb side project. And then I see Rx-9 rumors 
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To be fair, a new MS3 wouldn't be so much different than the Focus ST. It would also be crazy expensive, the Mazda3 can push high 20s right now, so a MS3 would likely be close to 30k.
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oRenj9 posted:To be fair, a new MS3 wouldn't be so much different than the Focus ST. It would also be crazy expensive, the Mazda3 can push high 20s right now, so a MS3 would likely be close to 30k. So same as the original MS3 to the original Focus ST then - basically better styling and a much better interior
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poo poo, they'd have had a proper Mazdaspeed MX-5 if they'd have put the MS3 engine in the NC miata. But no, let's make that gently caress-ugly RX-8 and not make a MSM to compete with it. I seem to recall some bullshit excuse like the injector pump would hit the firewall or somesuch. God forbid, when they made all their cars look like gomer pyle with that disgusting looking grin, that they re-tool the firewall stampings. Also RX-8 flares. RX-8 flares across the model lineup. I'm surprised the company survived that.
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SCA Enthusiast posted:Haven't seen one in person yet but the pictures sure make it look good. It doesn't really come as a surprise though because jag has the best styling in the industry right now IMO. I dunno, Jag Land Rover have research buildings where I work and they recently had a bunch of SUV things sat outside so their teams could sit in them all and take notes on what each manufacturer is doing. Out of the lot, the Volvo XC90 looked the best, a very clean design on that... 
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The RX-8 was a good car with a bad engine. Like are we seriously going to say the RX-8 was a bad driving car? Because that is a lie. It was pretty ugly until the last years of it's life though.
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Which car uglified the most over its production run? The Countach and E-Type must be leading contenders.
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88h88 posted:I dunno, Jag Land Rover have research buildings where I work and they recently had a bunch of SUV things sat outside so their teams could sit in them all and take notes on what each manufacturer is doing. Out of the lot, the Volvo XC90 looked the best, a very clean design on that... I meant styling over the whole brand. Volvo has some winners but between the F-Type and the XF modern Jags are just downright beautiful.
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Whiz Palace posted:Which car uglified the most over its production run? The Countach and E-Type must be leading contenders. The last American Countaches are horrendous.
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Whiz Palace posted:Which car uglified the most over its production run? The Countach and E-Type must be leading contenders. third gen firebird
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Whiz Palace posted:Which car uglified the most over its production run? The Countach and E-Type must be leading contenders. BMW 3 series
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