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Space T Rex posted:"just be chill and use whatever but don't go sperglord try-hard extraordinaire" What kind of try-hard tries to win the game they're playing? It's downright unsportsmanlike! And yes it's casual and no you probably won't find anyone else to play it with because the people who play these things aren't generally the people who download a program to play Magic with a bunch of randos.
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suicidesteve posted:What kind of try-hard tries to win the game they're playing? It's downright unsportsmanlike! I just think that just because the virtual cards are free doesn't mean you can only pick cards that are 20 dollars each. That seems boring to me. I was just asking to see if xmage had some game type with other similar minded people but apparently not! Booooring.
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Aug 27, 2016 05:11
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I can't loving wait for 2 artifact sets where equipment as a whole remains terrible at the end of them
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Aug 27, 2016 05:12
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Space T Rex posted:I just think that just because the virtual cards are free doesn't mean you can only pick cards that are 20 dollars each. That seems boring to me. I was just asking to see if xmage had some game type with other similar minded people but apparently not! Booooring. Commander typically isn't so bad more exploration, everyone still stuff dual lands and the such in their decks but the nature of commander means it's not as bad.
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Aug 27, 2016 05:13
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I got to play against a fog deck loaded with cards that return creqtures to my hand. Round one took 40 minutes to play out. I actually wanted to hit this kid in the face--repeatedly.
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Aug 27, 2016 05:25
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You can sanction a casual "Conspiracy Draft" in WER, but if you thought that would give you tools to run one such as being able to put people into pods or from those pods into multiplayer matches, you'd be wrong. I had to create my own seating randomly to create pods, and then create matches and type those matches into an MS Word table to create four (or three) player matches. Then I had to scramble to reorganize pods on the fly because people would just leave without telling me and multiple games would just have two players. Longest FNM of my life.
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Aug 27, 2016 05:32
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Met a guy at FNM who was like a human bingo board for bad magic opinions. In the course of the night he said:
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Aug 27, 2016 06:11
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I didn't know Kripp still played magic
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BJPaskoff posted:You can sanction a casual "Conspiracy Draft" in WER, but if you thought that would give you tools to run one such as being able to put people into pods or from those pods into multiplayer matches, you'd be wrong. I had to create my own seating randomly to create pods, and then create matches and type those matches into an MS Word table to create four (or three) player matches. Then I had to scramble to reorganize pods on the fly because people would just leave without telling me and multiple games would just have two players. My store decided to do regular draft tonight and Conspiracy tomorrow specifically so we would have more time to sort this bullshit out.
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Aug 27, 2016 06:30
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uninverted posted:Met a guy at FNM who was like a human bingo board for bad magic opinions. In the course of the night he said: please don't dox Sickening
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Space T Rex posted:I just think that just because the virtual cards are free doesn't mean you can only pick cards that are 20 dollars each. That seems boring to me. I was just asking to see if xmage had some game type with other similar minded people but apparently not! Booooring. What does this even mean, what does the price of a card have to do with how interesting it is to play  ?
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Star Man posted:I got to play against a fog deck loaded with cards that return creqtures to my hand. Round one took 40 minutes to play out. I actually wanted to hit this kid in the face--repeatedly. this owns
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Aug 27, 2016 06:56
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80s James Hetfield posted:this owns The deck is Mono U Prison. Here's an example of it: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-mono-u-prison#paper Forty minutes to get through game one. Me and the three other people that had to go against it wanted to take this kid into an alley and murder him. All of his matches went to time and at least one of them was 1-0. It was as much fun as sticking my dick into a toaster. I don't know how decks like that are fun to play.
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Aug 27, 2016 07:02
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Star Man posted:The deck is Mono U Prison. Here's an example of it: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-mono-u-prison#paper it's fun to play because of meltdowns like this one over a collectible card game for children
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Star Man posted:The deck is Mono U Prison. Here's an example of it: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-mono-u-prison#paper haha you stuck your dick in a toaster
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BJPaskoff posted:You can sanction a casual "Conspiracy Draft" in WER, but if you thought that would give you tools to run one such as being able to put people into pods or from those pods into multiplayer matches, you'd be wrong. I had to create my own seating randomly to create pods, and then create matches and type those matches into an MS Word table to create four (or three) player matches. Then I had to scramble to reorganize pods on the fly because people would just leave without telling me and multiple games would just have two players. Yeah our store was a mess. Four pods of 6-6-6-7 instead of 8-8-9, leading to games of 3-3-3-3-3-3-3-4 instead of 4-4-4-4-3-3-3, etc. Trip report: The guy with Sovereign's Realm won, natch.
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Back from Conspiracy 2 draft: Particularly notable cards in my deck quote:SOVEREIGN'S REALM: P2P1 windmill slam and immediately began building around it as hard as possible. The drawback printed on the card does actually matter early on, but the fact that after a certain point you stop needing lands ever again means you'll just crush opponents underneath the fact that you're drawing relevant stuff every turn. More importantly, picking it meant the entire concept of colors went out the door so I literally just began taking the best card in each pack. Since it was "top two of the pod of 4 move on to the winner's table" and my deck was unbelievably busted, I managed to just team up with the next best deck (who got the other mythic rare conspiracy P1P1 and built around that) and crush the other two players without ever having to attack myself. Then the actual real drawback of Sovereign's Realm kicked in and the winners from the other pod of 4 just focused me down so hard that the player I had teamed up with from last game (with my further help because he wasn't trying to kill me as well) crushed them immediately afterwards. Still got a prize anyways, so no big deal. Also the foil Horn of Greed is apparently worth 20$, because EDH staple as a foil that has never been in foil before does weird things to your price.
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If you open sovereign's realm pack three and you already have 5 conspiracies you can't even play it 
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Hellsau posted:So somebody did really well with a GW Tron list that plays White over Red for Path and different sideboard cards. Modern players - how crazy is it to run Oust over Path to Exile? The creature will come back with Oust two turns later, but it's still a 1 for 1 and it doesn't ramp your opponent. Tron isn't trying to reduce the opponents resources and grind them out, so just buying time seems like it's good enough. Is the instant speed of Path that important, or are there creatures that Tron actually needs to get rid of permanently? I'm a little late but if you are trying for a replacement to Path that doesn't ramp I'd look at Condemn instead.They potentially gain a bit more life, but no ramp, instant spead and the card is gone a lot longer. I played GR Tron for a while before the Eye of Ugin banning so this may be old knowledge, but I can't think of anything that Condemn wouldn't handle that Path would, especially since your top end really closes things out fast once you get an Ulamog swinging.
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Mef989 posted:I'm a little late but if you are trying for a replacement to Path that doesn't ramp I'd look at Condemn instead.They potentially gain a bit more life, but no ramp, instant spead and the card is gone a lot longer. I played GR Tron for a while before the Eye of Ugin banning so this may be old knowledge, but I can't think of anything that Condemn wouldn't handle that Path would, especially since your top end really closes things out fast once you get an Ulamog swinging. Melira combo, signal pest(kind of) and killing infect dudes while they're tapped out all immediately jump to mind.
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Turns out when you go against UB alchemist with RB alchemist packing alms and collective brutality, you win. Who knew?
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Went WB MONARCH in my conspiracy draft, and slowly drained out the rest of the table while I drew all the cards. The game ended with the last guy alive casting overrun, attacking me for less than lethal, and then dying to the combination of Marchesa's Proclamation and the knights that drain 2 when you lose the crown. Good times!
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Elyv posted:Melira combo, signal pest(kind of) and killing infect dudes while they're tapped out all immediately jump to mind. You're right, it's late it'd been a while since I read that card. Forgot that card only hit attacking creatures. I guess the only thing I'd argue is that condemn will hit manlands where oust won't in the case of infect and affinity. Coco combo still hurts though. Of course the tl;dr is probably just play path despite the land.
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Garrulous Sycophants are loving amazing, btw. Got blown out by bw monarchy in my first pod, drafted 5 of them w/3 rank and vile and the green pump conspiracy on them, now playing bw monarchy myself. Also opened Avatar of Woe all three loving pods, played Sovereigns Realm good stuff pod 1, GB pod 2
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TheKingofSprings posted:I can't loving wait for 2 artifact sets where equipment as a whole remains terrible at the end of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8I43bF840s
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TheKingofSprings posted:I can't loving wait for 2 artifact sets where equipment as a whole remains terrible at the end of them RW Ally Equipment is still a pretty fun deck and can still run over some people.
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GoutPatrol posted:RW Ally Equipment is still a pretty fun deck and can still run over some people. Talking about modern, where any equipment not named Cranial Plating is close to unplayable right now.
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It seems pretty hard to make equipment that leads to good gameplay and isn't busted.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It seems pretty hard to make equipment that leads to good gameplay and isn't busted. You could print cards that make already existing equipment more playable in the format. A Stoneforge without the tap ability alone would go miles towards that and I'm sure there are other possibilities that don't have to destroy standard. What is the definition of "good gameplay" here? E: for equipment to be playable you pretty much have to cheat the advantage and/or mana costs, a Sword would need a turn 3 play and equip to be worth taking a turn off. TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Aug 27, 2016 |
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Equipment needs to be busted in order to see play because you're spending a lot of mana and an extra card for an effect you may not even get any value out of because your opponent has removal. So you make them playable either by subverting the equip cost (Living Weapon, Puresteel Paladin) or subverting the mana cost (Stoneforge Mystic), or just give them a powerful ETB or cast effect. Otherwise you're gonna get insane poo poo like Skullclamp and Umezawa's Jitte. Finding the healthy balance between strong enough to see play and so good every deck has to play it or beat it is a dangerously fine line.
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Bonesplitter is, I think, the sort of thing you're looking for as an example of "good enough to see play but not insanely busted" equipment.
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Lol rough start for this coverage. They didn't look ready to go and now we get a lovely bant eldrazi mirror.
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I have a sealed booster box from Return to Ravnica all the way to Eldrich Moon. I grab a box every set now, and tuck them away. In 10 year's time I hope most of the boxes go to $250 each. I also was wise and kept 3 booster boxes of unhinged. Those are a nice little return on investment as each one cost me $30.
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Well equipment is fundamentally something that sticks around and is hard to remove. If it's good it can just dominate creature combat situations.
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Logicblade posted:Equipment needs to be busted in order to see play because you're spending a lot of mana and an extra card for an effect you may not even get any value out of because your opponent has removal. So you make them playable either by subverting the equip cost (Living Weapon, Puresteel Paladin) or subverting the mana cost (Stoneforge Mystic), or just give them a powerful ETB or cast effect. Otherwise you're gonna get insane poo poo like Skullclamp and Umezawa's Jitte. Finding the healthy balance between strong enough to see play and so good every deck has to play it or beat it is a dangerously fine line. It's drawbacks are no worse than enchantments. Rancor isn't that far off being an equipment and while it's a very strong card it isn't really broken.
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gp indi is just shy of 2k players.
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mcmagic posted:Lol rough start for this coverage. They didn't look ready to go and now we get a lovely bant eldrazi mirror. I think it's going to be everywhere this weekend.
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Rancor is better than a vast amount of equipment largely because it is only 1 CMC.
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Alaan posted:Rancor is better than a vast amount of equipment largely because it is only 1 CMC. This plus it kind of has equipment's advantage of "you don't lose this when the creature dies", barring some timing tricks. E: uninverted posted:Met a guy at FNM who was like a human bingo board for bad magic opinions. In the course of the night he said: If he's playing Mill and saying all that stuff he's either trolling you or really doesn't know what he's talking about. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Aug 27, 2016 |
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What is the link to the stream? I figured it was /magic but they're showing PT EMN
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